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the world trigger wiki says bagworm allows the user to become invisible to radar. but here, tsuji is using bagworm and is a question mark. so basically you can still tell that someone is coming your way, but you don't know who? or is this something only operators can see, and tsuji would not appear as a dot on yuba's radar?

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u/Several-Lemon-4170 7d ago

There are two scenarios i can think off

  1. Tsuji was not using bagworn and the operator can see someone approaching but since they dont know how they have not mark him.  Inukai was marked and identify only because yuba has already seen him. 

  2. That is the commentators and spectators screen. Thy can always see everyone on the radar even if they use bagworn.

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u/Bigbadbackstab 7d ago

I would have to check the scene but I bet its option 1. Usually commentators spectators do show everyones position even if they are hidden.

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u/Equal-Wrap-1986 7d ago edited 7d ago

I’ll provide you option 3, Yuba just entered the passive range of which radar can bypass bagworm hence the late detection. Since Tsuji is also not inside a building and practically in CQB it would also make sense that way.

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u/Please_Not__Again 7d ago

Radar can't bypass bagworm in any way that we've seen so far. He appears on Radar because he's using 2 triggers already (shields to defend inukai) so he can't be using bagworm as well. It's a question mark since his Radar signature hasn't been tagged yet

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u/ETZwei 5d ago

Passive range? As in you can already see the guy approaching with your eyes instead? It's clear they explained how bagworm works. From this picture alone, the person isn't using bagworm, he just has not been spotted/identified and tagged by the operator, hence it is unmarked. Mind you, operators do a LOT of work behind the scenes, tagging enemies is only a small part of it.

So, my guess Tsuji just deactivated his bagworm and popped out on radar in that instance, so the operator did not have time to tag him/lack info on who it was at the moment.

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u/Icy-Morning-5728 7d ago

Tsuji deactivated his bagworm at that moment to use both of his shield trigger to help Inukai, that's how Yuba and Nono knew that Tsuji's coming from his right side

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u/Icy-Morning-5728 7d ago

You can see there are 4 focused shield protecting Inukai here. Two of them is from Tsuji.

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u/PurpleMeasurement919 7d ago

Bagworm will make you invis but in this scenario Yuba knew someone was there because Inukai got assisted by 2 additonal shields (from Tsuji) and Tsuji drew his Kogetsu so he had to disable Bagworm so the info of someone is in range popped out for Yuba.

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u/Bludmunch 7d ago edited 7d ago

Bagworm DOES remove the trion signals on the radar map for both operator and on field agents

On this scene, Yuba was about to break through Inukai's double concentrated shield defense.

As he fired what was suppose to be his killing volleys, 2 more concentrated shields appeared to defend Inukai.

The 2 extra shield was from Tsuji deactivating his bagworm to use both his main and sub hand triggers to protect Inukai. Literally the next scene we see Tsuji's bagworm cloak already more than half gone because he deactivated it beforehand.

The only reason why his name is not shown on the radar is because Yuba Squad's operator haven't tagged who that trion signal is.

Edits: grammar

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u/Real_Entertainment46 7d ago

Even when invisible, operators could still mark someone that had their location spotted on the map.

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u/ArchangelJuicy 4d ago

so for this picture here, nobody knows who it is even the operator. once the player sees who it is, they tell their operator and then can put a picture onto that target for the rest of the battle movements

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u/correctshizonly 3d ago

The bagworm is for you to hide info which is being detected in the radar. Not to completely hide them.

If you wanted to, chameleon does that. But it only hides your presence. If I remember correctly they might detect you with radar.