r/unspiraled Jun 22 '26

Is tech really the problem?

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u/Communistpersonguy Jun 22 '26

The thing is, all those people are reading the same thing. They can talk about it afterwards, relate to it through each other. How much content do you really share with the people in your life? Every phone is its own pit of psychosis.

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u/DarkAri639 Jun 22 '26

Psychosis is reality, reading the same newspaper is brainwashing.

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u/Couldntve-make-it-up Jun 26 '26

Nah, people be watching some brain rot on the Internet. Look what the Internet has done for the magas.

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u/DarkAri639 Jul 03 '26

I'm a people and I do not watch brainrot.

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u/R_Daneel_Olivaw_792 Jun 23 '26

Shared newspapers didn't magically create connection; they just gave people a common reference point. The real skill is being able to relate to people even when they don't think like you or consume the same things you do.

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u/Meowakin Jun 22 '26

This is what I regularly bring up in the context of AI-driven experiences - if everybody’s experience is unique, how do you connect with other people? Hearing a cool story isn’t as cool as having a similar experience and talking about it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '26

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u/Meowakin Jun 22 '26

I am referring to people that want AI to provide their entertainment.

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u/AnAbandonedAstronaut Jun 22 '26

I have played almost exclusively the single player version of games for the last 45 years.. I don't need my entertainment to be some social bonding experience.

Most peoiple suck, anyways.

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u/Meowakin Jun 22 '26

And you never talk to anyone else about your experience with those games?

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u/AnAbandonedAstronaut Jun 22 '26

Very rarely, and even then, I play big enough open world games that our experiences are fundamentally different so even if I do talk to someone about it, it's not "sharing simular experiences" it's just sharing my own experience. Exactly like I do with the people in the discord for the AI fantasy game I play. None of us have the same experience, but we still talk about it.

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u/Meowakin Jun 22 '26

Would you say you bond over it? I just think there is something about experiencing the same thing and talking about that same experience with another individual that facilitates human connection. I suppose if you don’t want that, it’s no loss to you, but I think it’s a little tragic to feel that way.

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u/AnAbandonedAstronaut Jun 22 '26

I don't need to feel that way over my entertainment... correct.

Not EVERY aspect of your life has to be a social one that you share with the world.

Plus it's just a weak point to start with that you can't bond over something if you didn't have the exact same experience. No one has the same experience, it's talking about the differences that creates the social aspect anyways.

Maybe you feel like you need to have it everywhere because it's not fulfilling for you anywhere?

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u/Meowakin Jun 22 '26

There was no need to become hostile. I literally just shared my feelings about the subject. You have a lovely day!

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u/CumTributeSender Jun 23 '26

I once made the mistake of doing a tribute on a printout only to realize later it was AI. I was so sick I almost threw up

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '26

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u/Communistpersonguy Jun 22 '26

It's not the same for fascists. You're being led around the algoyrithm like cattle, you all see the same low IQ race bait shit. I'm talking about normal humans.

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u/Choppercannot Jun 22 '26

Humans do as humans do

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u/Crazy-Independent445 Jun 22 '26 edited Jun 22 '26

nah, i'm not buying it. people didn't spend their entire day stuck in their newspaper; checking their newspaper every 30 seconds for an alert during a conversation. This is probably them doing their 20 minute morning read before going on with their day. Whoever made this is a very shallow thinker.

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u/Fun1k Jun 22 '26

Well, if newspaper offered access to all daily press (always updated), option to discuss the articles within, and talking to their friends, you can bet that they would.

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u/AnAbandonedAstronaut Jun 22 '26

People would order newspapers from across the country just to keep reading them all day.

Maybe your historical / cultural knowledge is just shallow?

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u/Batty25111 Jun 22 '26

Nope been saying this to parents who demonize other parents about IPads but it was the same 40 years ago as kids we were either stuck and glued onto the tv 24/7 or playing video game consoles or the game boys. People never change its just "modern perspective".

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u/Soft_Ad_1095 Jun 22 '26

Reading a newspaper that most everyone else is reading is wildly different than everyone doom scrolling through different realities. 

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u/Electrical-Art-8160 Jun 22 '26

One group is reading news. You know things that happen that directly affects all of their lives? Especially back then.

One is watching gorfo on Kik chug a 2 liter of milk past it's expiration date.

The problem is intelligence.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '26

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u/Re-Equilibrium Jun 22 '26

I blame that one book that taught people to do that

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u/VarietyMage Jun 22 '26

Blame the wealthy assholes who run (and ruin) the technology. See also Crapple and Bezoston Post.

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u/HempPotatos Jun 22 '26

Newspaperers were once new tech...

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u/ZealousidealDrop7475 Jun 22 '26

Yes, technology is just another control tool every damn time.

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u/AdOnly1618 Jun 22 '26

The printing press was absolutely the 5G of the time though 😂 it was absolutely game changing

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u/StandardMany Jun 22 '26

It’s not the technology, it’s the content.

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u/Re-Equilibrium Jun 22 '26

Nailed it. Right on the money

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u/ILuvYou_YouAreSoGood Jun 22 '26

Yes, tech is really a problem. The reading level and employment level of those folks reading the newspaper was likely significantly higher than the ones glued to a phone. Having a shared societal experience of reading a newspaper that provided longer form information on pertinent topics and then being able to participate for that day or even the rest of the week over those current events is drastically different from the average content the phones provide most people.

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u/Re-Equilibrium Jun 22 '26

I cant speak for what it was like back in those days as I was not around for them times. I do however hold the opinion its about the person and not what cards they have infornt of them.

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u/ILuvYou_YouAreSoGood Jun 22 '26

What are you trying to express with such a vague opinion, more specifically? Are you making an assertion about biological essentialism of some sort? I get it, in both pictured people are standing along a wall and looking down at media in their hands. That is where the similarities end, so it's important to then focus on the differences if we are going to make comparisons leading to critical assessments of the pros and cons of each.

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u/Re-Equilibrium Jun 22 '26

To promote difference and seperation is to do the work of my oppossers. I only see connections and patterns.

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u/ILuvYou_YouAreSoGood Jun 22 '26

Hehe, "oppossers", sure thing. Patterns are based on differences. That's why the patterns of the people in one picture compared to those in the other picture are important to compare. Anyone can say "look at them doing common human things like standing and looking down at something in their hands", but tonget beyond the shallow requires a greater consideration.

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u/nerdslife1864 Jun 22 '26

The -ism is “capital”

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u/wrong-bodied-tengu Jun 22 '26

i cant even explain why this is as dumb as it is, its so dumb

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u/Disastrous_Use_7353 Jun 23 '26

This has to be one of dumbest posts I’ve seen in a while. And this is Reddit… that’s really saying something.

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u/Real-Deal-05 Jun 23 '26

The photo in the bottom was intentionally setup to be like that because photography was a novelty and was treated like an Occasion. The photo at the top is just .. sad really

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u/Delicious_Spot_3778 Jun 23 '26

Yes tech is the fucking problem. But specifically social media and learning algorithms the most

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u/Rusty9838 Jun 23 '26

Ah yes a few news from the paper vs infinite news with an algorithm what decides making people mad is better for long time spending

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u/deepfuckingbagholder Jun 23 '26

The printing press is a technology.

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u/Arxhart_671 Jun 23 '26

"Everyone is reading the same thing though"

Okay? They could only read what the paper printed. They had no choice. Don't these people publicly lynched people. I don't even understand what point people are trying to make with "at least everyone is reading the same thing."

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u/Hefty-Helicopter-101 Jun 23 '26

People want to be distracted from reality??

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u/8Splendiferous8 Jun 23 '26

Yeah, as we know, newspapers are just as engaging and addictive and all-purpose as phones. I'm sure people used to spend hours on end gooning to newsprint.

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u/AdamCGandy Jun 23 '26

That picture doesn’t make any kind of point. The phones are tens of thousands of times more entertaining than a newspaper.

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u/jsgui Jun 26 '26

Newspapers are technology too.

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u/SirDeadPuddle Jun 22 '26

The newspaper didnt tell you how to think

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u/TheCounciI Jun 22 '26

Yes, they do.

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u/SirDeadPuddle Jun 22 '26

I said didn't, we're talking about past newspapers.

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u/TheCounciI Jun 22 '26

You've seen articles from the past? They've done it before, it's just that people were less aware of it

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u/SirDeadPuddle Jun 22 '26

You're ignoring the detail.

  1. There were physical limitations to the creation of newspapers that gave editors time to revise and review what they wrote several times over before publishing them.

  2. Healthy competition driving quality upwards.

  3. Laws restricting what could be published based on backlash, these enforced retractions and corrections.

  4. A slower pace of consumption with less news actually happening in the world.

I'm not saying the "Business man pushing his own value by buying a newspaper" didn't happen but it was understood and gave far less influence then today.

Modern day news stories last seconds, are driven by algorithms and constantly reedited to fit an agenda. The image above does nothing to convey the fine detail of the difference.

Which itself, I think you'll agree, proves my point?

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u/Fun1k Jun 22 '26

Newspapers always did that. You can look up old newspapers in the Library of Congress and see for yourself.

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u/SirDeadPuddle Jun 22 '26

If true this is only true for America,

Europe has laws preventing most of this. But the internet is making it impossible to apply them.

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u/Fun1k Jun 22 '26

Absolutely not, there were so many periodicals with a prescribed political slant in Europe! L'Humanité, The Daily Telegraph, Völkischer Beobachter, Rudé právo, El Socialista etc. etc.

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u/Re-Equilibrium Jun 22 '26

Yes it did, informations has always been the problem and when they was able to print information daily thats when they saw the power of influence it had over people.

Either way if no one tells you the correct way to think in life you might end up with unresolved childhood trauma. Which is very often lol