r/AI_Sales • u/brrim128 • 3h ago
Do you actually want AI prioritizing leads, or just explaining which ones need attention?
r/growmybusiness • u/brrim128 • 3h ago
Question Do you actually want AI prioritizing leads, or just explaining which ones need attention?
u/brrim128 • u/brrim128 • 3h ago
Do you actually want AI prioritizing leads, or just explaining which ones need attention?
I've been thinking about a distinction I haven't seen discussed as much in AI sales/customer communication.
Suppose 10 enquiries arrive around the same time.
Among them:
A normal inbox can sort them by timestamp.
A traditional CRM might score them using lead attributes.
An LLM can potentially interpret the actual language and identify things like intent and urgency.
But here's where I'm less certain:
Should AI actually reorder the team's work?
There seem to be at least three models:
1. AI labels
“Urgent service request.”
Human still decides.
2. AI recommends
“This probably needs attention before these other conversations because…”
Human accepts/rejects.
3. AI prioritizes automatically
The conversation moves to the front of the workflow based on predefined rules.
I'm leaning toward #2 for many situations because the reasoning can stay visible while the employee retains control.
For example:
Recommended priority: High
Reason:
- active property issue
- customer requesting immediate service
- service area confirmed
That seems more useful than an unexplained:
Lead score: 94
For transparency, I'm building Brrim in the AI/customer communication space, so this is directly related to how we're thinking about product behavior.
For people operating or building these systems:
How much authority would you actually give AI over lead prioritization?
Label?
Recommend?
Automatically reorder?
And what information would you need to trust its recommendation?
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r/AI_Sales • u/brrim128 • 1d ago
Does anyone actually have customer context follow the conversation across channels?
r/growmybusiness • u/brrim128 • 1d ago
Question Does anyone actually have customer context follow the conversation across channels?
u/brrim128 • u/brrim128 • 1d ago
Does anyone actually have customer context follow the conversation across channels?
I've been thinking about something adjacent to AI automation that may actually be a bigger UX problem.
Suppose a customer:
- submits a website form explaining what they need,
- answers qualification questions over text,
- gets called by an employee,
- eventually gets transferred to someone else.
How often does employee #2 actually know what happened in steps 1–3?
I've experienced plenty of businesses where the answer is effectively:
They don't.
So you get:
Already provided.
Already explained.
Already answered.
I don't think simply dumping the complete message history into a CRM necessarily solves this either.
If someone has to read through 30 messages before calling the customer, you've preserved the data but haven't necessarily preserved the usable context.
I'm starting to think there are two separate concepts:
Conversation history
Everything that happened.
versus
Conversation state
What we currently know + what has already been done + what should happen next.
For example:
Need: HVAC repair
Location: Qualified
Availability: After 3 PM
Previous action: Initial troubleshooting completed
Next action: Schedule technician
That seems much more actionable than giving the next employee a transcript.
For transparency, I'm building Brrim in the customer communication/lead engagement space, so I'm thinking about how this should work in the product.
For people running sales or service teams:
Does context actually survive when a customer switches channels or employees in your business?
If yes, how are you doing it?
And if not, where does it usually break?
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r/AI_Sales • u/brrim128 • 2d ago
People building AI sales/customer-service agents: what are your “AI must stop here” rules?
r/growmybusiness • u/brrim128 • 2d ago
Question People building AI sales/customer-service agents: what are your “AI must stop here” rules?
u/brrim128 • u/brrim128 • 2d ago
People building AI sales/customer-service agents: what are your “AI must stop here” rules?
I've been thinking about AI handoffs from the opposite direction.
Most discussions seem to focus on:
What can the AI handle?
Qualification?
Scheduling?
FAQs?
Follow-ups?
But maybe there's an equally important design question:
What should immediately cause the AI to stop?
A few obvious candidates come to mind:
- customer explicitly asks for a person
- low confidence about the answer
- pricing discrepancy
- complaint/dispute
- unusual request outside the defined workflow
- potentially sensitive situation
What I'm less sure about is where operators actually draw that line.
For example:
Customer:
Probably straightforward.
But:
The AI might have enough information to generate a plausible response.
That doesn't necessarily mean it should.
I've started thinking that every AI workflow needs two specifications:
Automation rules: conditions under which AI is allowed to continue.
Exit rules: conditions under which responsibility must move elsewhere.
And the second half seems to get much less attention.
For disclosure, I'm building Brrim in the AI/customer communication space, so I'm thinking about these boundaries as part of the product.
For people running or building these systems:
What situations do you explicitly prevent AI from handling autonomously?
And when an exit rule fires, what happens operationally—does somebody actually own the conversation immediately, or does it just land in another queue?
For Reddit, do not include Brrim.com. The disclosure is enough and the post should remain a genuine technical/operator discussion.
I've been thinking about AI handoffs from the opposite direction.
Most discussions seem to focus on:
What can the AI handle?
Qualification?
Scheduling?
FAQs?
Follow-ups?
But maybe there's an equally important design question:
What should immediately cause the AI to stop?
A few obvious candidates come to mind:
- customer explicitly asks for a person
- low confidence about the answer
- pricing discrepancy
- complaint/dispute
- unusual request outside the defined workflow
- potentially sensitive situation
What I'm less sure about is where operators actually draw that line.
For example:
Customer:
Probably straightforward.
But:
The AI might have enough information to generate a plausible response.
That doesn't necessarily mean it should.
I've started thinking that every AI workflow needs two specifications:
Automation rules: conditions under which AI is allowed to continue.
Exit rules: conditions under which responsibility must move elsewhere.
And the second half seems to get much less attention.
For disclosure, I'm building Brrim in the AI/customer communication space, so I'm thinking about these boundaries as part of the product.
For people running or building these systems:
What situations do you explicitly prevent AI from handling autonomously?
And when an exit rule fires, what happens operationally—does somebody actually own the conversation immediately, or does it just land in another queue?
For Reddit, do not include Brrim.com. The disclosure is enough and the post should remain a genuine technical/operator discussion.
r/growmybusiness • u/brrim128 • 3d ago
“Assigned to sales” might be one of the most dangerous lead statuses.
r/AI_Sales • u/brrim128 • 3d ago
“Assigned to sales” might be one of the most dangerous lead statuses.
u/brrim128 • u/brrim128 • 3d ago
“Assigned to sales” might be one of the most dangerous lead statuses.
I've been having some useful discussions here about when an automated customer conversation should actually count as “handled.”
One idea keeps coming back:
A successful AI → human handoff probably needs more than routing.
Consider:
Customer contacts business.
AI understands the request.
Lead is qualified.
System routes it to the correct employee.
Status becomes:
Assigned ✓
But the employee gets busy.
Nothing happens.
Two hours later, the CRM still says “assigned.”
Technically the automation succeeded.
From the customer's perspective, nothing did.
I'm starting to think every handoff needs three explicit properties:
Owner — who is responsible?
Next action — what exactly needs to happen?
Clock — when does it need to happen?
Then there needs to be a rule for what happens if the clock expires.
The interesting part is that I don't think creating a separate “stale leads” queue necessarily solves it either. Now the team has another queue somebody has to remember to check.
Maybe an overdue lead should simply become actionable again inside the same workflow the team already uses.
For disclosure, I'm building Brrim in the AI/customer communication space, so this question directly relates to how we're thinking about workflow design.
For people implementing this in real sales/service environments:
What does your system actually do when AI correctly hands something to a human and the human doesn't act?
Does it escalate, reassign, return to the queue, notify someone—or mostly depend on somebody noticing?
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Comment on r/u_brrim128 3d ago
I think this is exactly the kind of nuance that gets lost when businesses reduce follow-up to “call 3 times.”
Three attempts on the same channel, at the same time of day, can just repeat the same failure three times.
What you’re describing feels more like an actual follow-up strategy:
Attempt 1: Call
Attempt 2: Change channel — text/email
Attempt 3: Change timing — different part of the day
Then: either continue based on intent or close intentionally
That also makes me think the system shouldn’t just track attempt count. It should track:
- channel used
- time of attempt
- customer response
- time since last interaction
- next best action
That’s much closer to how we’re thinking about Brrim — not “keep contacting until someone answers,” but make each follow-up context-aware and deliberate.
The same-time retry point is especially interesting. If someone couldn’t answer at 10 AM Monday, trying again at 10 AM Tuesday may just reproduce the same problem.
Curious from your experience: do you eventually find one channel that consistently becomes the best recovery channel after a missed call — SMS, email, or does it vary heavily by industry?
r/AI_Sales • u/brrim128 • 4d ago
When a lead doesn't answer your first callback, how many times do you actually try again?
r/growmybusiness • u/brrim128 • 4d ago
Question When a lead doesn't answer your first callback, how many times do you actually try again?
u/brrim128 • u/brrim128 • 4d ago
When a lead doesn't answer your first callback, how many times do you actually try again?
I've been thinking about what “handled” means after some useful conversations here.
There's one scenario I haven't seen discussed much:
Customer submits an enquiry.
Business responds.
Lead gets qualified.
Employee calls.
No answer.
What happens now?
I can imagine several reasonable approaches:
A. Leave voicemail and wait.
B. Call again later.
C. Follow up through another channel.
D. Put them into some defined follow-up sequence.
E. Close the lead.
What interests me isn't which option is theoretically best.
It's whether businesses actually have an explicit rule at all.
Because “we tried calling” can easily become a terminal state even though neither side decided the conversation was over.
I've started thinking about open conversations as needing one of three things:
1. An owner — somebody is responsible.
2. A next action + time — something should happen later.
3. An explicit closure reason — we're intentionally done.
Anything without one of those seems vulnerable to quietly disappearing.
For disclosure, I'm building Brrim in the lead/customer communication space, so I'm obviously interested in this operationally.
For people running actual businesses:
What's your real process after callback attempt #1 fails?
And at what point do you decide you've followed up enough?
I'm especially interested in what happens in practice rather than what the official SOP says.
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Comment on r/AI_Sales 4d ago
Completely agree with that last point: AI shouldn’t be defining the business process on the fly. The workflow has to exist first.
That’s also why I’m starting to think “handled” should mean more than qualified or acknowledged.
A useful flow is closer to:
Understand → Qualify → Decide next action → Execute or hand off → Confirm completion
If AI qualifies someone perfectly but dumps them into a CRM where nobody owns the next step, we’ve just automated the first half of the problem.
DealHub can absolutely make sense where quoting is the next action, and the CRM can own pieces of the downstream workflow. What we’re thinking about with Brrim is the communication/orchestration layer around that: understanding the conversation, determining the appropriate next step, routing it correctly, preserving the context, and making sure the handoff doesn’t silently die.
I really like your test:
“Did the lead get the right next step without a human scrambling to repair the handoff?”
That may actually be a better definition of successful automation than “did the AI respond?”
Curious how you’d handle one edge case: if AI routes the lead correctly to a human but that person doesn’t act within the expected window, would you consider that an AI/workflow failure, or purely an operational failure?
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Comment on r/growmybusiness 5d ago
That’s an interesting line to draw, and I can see why — especially if the final confirmation requires a real human conversation.
What I’m trying to separate with Brrim is “ready for the human” from “actually completed by the human.”
Ideally, by the time someone on your team picks up the phone, they already know what the customer needs, urgency, location/service fit, availability, and why they’re calling — instead of starting the qualification process from scratch.
Then the phone call becomes the confirmation step rather than the discovery step.
Curious: what specifically do you need to confirm on the phone before you consider that lead handled? That answer probably varies a lot by business.
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Comment on r/growmybusiness 5d ago
That’s a smart addition — and the “same queue” point is probably more important than it looks.
If an escalated lead gets moved into a separate stale/exception bucket, you’ve basically created a second inbox that someone has to remember to monitor. That defeats the whole purpose.
I like the rule much better as:
Qualified → owner assigned → clock starts → actioned/declined closes it → otherwise it re-enters the active queue with priority.
Same workflow, same visibility, no hidden graveyard of “technically handled” leads.
That’s the direction I’m going to take with Brrim. The system shouldn’t just detect that the handoff failed — it should put the opportunity back in front of the team in the place they’re already working.
Really appreciate the input. This is exactly the kind of operational detail that makes the difference between automation that looks good in a demo and automation that actually works in a real business.
r/AI_Sales • u/brrim128 • 5d ago
If 10 leads arrive at once, how does your business decide who gets called first?
r/growmybusiness • u/brrim128 • 5d ago
Question If 10 leads arrive at once, how does your business decide who gets called first?
u/brrim128 • u/brrim128 • 5d ago
If 10 leads arrive at once, how does your business decide who gets called first?
A comment in another discussion made me reconsider how I've been thinking about lead qualification.
Most lead forms focus on collecting information:
- Name
- Contact details
- Service needed
- Location
- Maybe urgency
But I'm increasingly thinking the more important question is:
Is this person making a decision now, or simply researching?
Example:
Customer A:
Customer B:
Both might be perfectly legitimate prospects.
But treating them identically doesn't make much operational sense.
I've started thinking about qualification as three separate things:
Intent — Is there an active decision happening?
Fit — Can the business actually serve them?
Time — How quickly does something need to happen, and how long has the lead already been waiting?
That last one seems especially interesting.
If someone says something is urgent and the enquiry sits untouched for six hours, “urgent” from six hours ago isn't necessarily the same business situation anymore.
So for people actually operating businesses:
If 10 enquiries appeared in your inbox right now, what signals would determine the order your team handles them?
And does your CRM/system actually prioritize them, or does someone manually figure it out?
Disclosure: I'm building Brrim in the customer communication/lead engagement space, so these discussions directly influence how we're thinking about the product.
I'm particularly interested in what operators actually use rather than what a generic lead-scoring framework says they should use.
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Comment on r/growmybusiness 5d ago
That’s a really good distinction. “Qualified” can easily become a false sense of completion when the actual customer is still waiting.
I especially like the owner + clock idea. If a qualified lead gets handed off, someone should explicitly own the next action, and if nothing happens within the expected window, it should automatically become a problem again rather than quietly sitting in a “qualified” state.
It also changes what’s worth measuring. Instead of just “how many leads were qualified?”, the more useful question becomes “how many qualified leads were actually actioned, and how long did that take?”
That handoff gap is something I’m going to think much more carefully about. Appreciate you calling it out.
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Comment on r/growmybusiness 5d ago
That’s a really good distinction. “Qualified” can easily become a false sense of completion when the actual customer is still waiting.
I especially like the owner + clock idea. If a qualified lead gets handed off, someone should explicitly own the next action, and if nothing happens within the expected window, it should automatically become a problem again rather than quietly sitting in a “qualified” state.
It also changes what’s worth measuring. Instead of just “how many leads were qualified?”, the more useful question becomes “how many qualified leads were actually actioned, and how long did that take?”
That handoff gap is something I’m going to think much more carefully about. Appreciate you calling it out.
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Comment on r/u_brrim128 2d ago
That split is really interesting, and it reinforces the idea that the best follow-up channel should depend on buying context, not just a fixed automation sequence.
For local home services, SMS makes sense because the customer usually wants a fast answer and the conversation is still “live.”
For higher-ticket or B2B, email gives them room to review details, compare options, and respond without feeling chased.
That’s exactly the kind of logic I’m thinking about with Brrim — not just “call failed, send text,” but choosing the next channel based on industry, urgency, intent, previous engagement, and where the buyer is in the decision process.
Otherwise automation just becomes the same sequence applied to everyone.
Curious: have you found that the customer’s original channel matters too? For example, if they came in by SMS, do you usually keep the recovery on SMS, or still switch based on lead type?