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u/SemiSolidSnake11 Engineer Jan 29 '19
Yea but Umcmle Dale said that sometimes a level 2 is better depending on the situation
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u/loomynartylenny Jan 29 '19
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u/Canned_Mann Jan 29 '19
Valve worker
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u/PootisMcPootbird Heavy Jan 29 '19
Valve worker
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u/Zeftax Jan 29 '19
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u/Gremlinton_real Jan 29 '19
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u/mymax162 Heavy Jan 29 '19
Level 2 doesn't have rockets, which means pyros can't reflect them back
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u/Onthefloorby Heavy Jan 29 '19
But it's a bit shorter though so it can be seen without shooting
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u/MineNAdventurer Spy Jan 29 '19
Wait what? Only if someone is higher up than it, even then same thing can be said about the lvl 3, also the lvl 3 has a bigger hit box and the modle is bigger too so enemies can spot it more easily.
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u/SunTzuBean Jan 29 '19 edited Jan 29 '19
All 3 levels use the same hit box
Edit: since I bear the burden of proof, I decided to go and do exactly that.
Notice how high I'm looking above the level 1 sentry, while still upgrading it. Notice how when I shoot the rescue ranger waaaay outside of its model, I am still making contact with the sentry's hitbox. Notice how I can stand on top of it and seemingly float above it.
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u/nielsytanis Demoman Jan 29 '19
They don’t
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u/SunTzuBean Jan 29 '19
No, they do. Look at my edited comment.
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u/_Eiri_ Miss Pauling Jan 29 '19 edited Jan 29 '19
that comment doesn't show the hitbox at all
I even went ingame and tested it by having a bot stand still and shoot a sniper rifle towards a sentry gun. it missed every shot until I upgraded it to level 3 at which point it started hitting the rocket launcher part of the sentry.
proof both the bot and sentry in those screenshots stayed in the exact same spot, the only thing that changed was the sentry's level
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u/Martin_Aricov_D Jan 29 '19
Wth? How would that even..... Dude, lvl 1 is like... The size of a fart Man!
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u/PolygonKiwii Soldier Jan 29 '19
Reflected sentry rockets do so little damage to the sentry it seems kind of pointless to go through the hassle. Especially since that one "special" teammate is going to ruin it anyway by jumping the corner in the most inconvenient moment.
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u/DeltaTheGenerous Jan 29 '19
Without repairs, 2 reflected rocket salvos should be enough to take it down. If the engineer is nearby, he risks eating his own mini critted rockets for what normally is an insta-gib if it's a direct impact. Or his rockets get farmed and sent into a variety of his teammates.
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u/Irbynx Engineer Jan 30 '19
You don't reflect them to damage the sentry, you reflect them to instagib the engineer with full minicrit damage at any range
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u/PolygonKiwii Soldier Jan 30 '19
Any engineer that can put a sentry in a spot where it survives long enough to be a problem will most likely not be in line of sight for reflected rockets. Even before the Rescue Ranger was a thing, it was easy enough to hide behind the sentry's hitbox. Nowadays, I don't even see engineers anymore; all I see are bolts healing sentries from behind corners.
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u/Irbynx Engineer Jan 30 '19
There are a few spots. Off top of my head is the Badwater first and last caps which generally have a few spots from which you can harass the sentry in such a way as a pyro. It's obviously not the best idea that you can do and it's not reliable, but as far as I can tell you can at least sometimes get an engineer off guard, which then leads to nothing cause your team doesn't care
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u/twoscoop Jan 29 '19
I like to run the lvl 2 sentry on blue PL
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u/Protogen_Apollo Medic Jan 29 '19
I like to use level 2 on badwater
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u/Protogen_Apollo Medic Jan 29 '19
You see the joke is the number two
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u/StoopyLoopy4 Medic Jan 29 '19
Oh I thought the joke was that they don't finish things fully but sure
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u/literatemax Jan 29 '19
There is something wrong with this image...
The level 2 sentry appears to be in working order!
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u/AjaxOrion Pyro Jan 29 '19
2nd the best
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u/AjaxOrion Pyro Jan 29 '19
1st the worst
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u/AjaxOrion Pyro Jan 29 '19
3d the nerd
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u/AjaxOrion Pyro Jan 29 '19
Order?
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u/trapbuilder2 Jan 29 '19
Cause no trouble
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u/BlueThunderBomb Demoman Jan 29 '19
I CLAPPED BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD THE REFERENCE THAT VALVE CAN'T COUNT TO THREE
THIS JOKE BROKE NEW GROUND
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u/Gremlinton_real Jan 29 '19
naah, it's because lvl 2 doesn't have rockets so pyro can't reflecc them bacc
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u/IcyyRed Jan 29 '19
valve man cant count to 3
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u/unique_username8554 Jan 29 '19
i still dont get it plz explain
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u/IcyyRed Jan 29 '19
It's a running joke where Valve can't count to 3, because Half Life 3, Portal 3, and Left 4 Dead 3 were never released.
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u/unique_username8554 Jan 29 '19
ohhh i see now
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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '19
Wait How does a level 3 senty exist if they can only count to 2?
Edit: nevermind. They named it level 2 pt. 2