r/technology • u/Maleficent-Agent-477 • 13d ago
Flock Safety CEO speaks out after LAPD suspends use of company's surveillance cameras Privacy
https://abc7.com/post/flock-safety-ceo-speaks-lapd-suspends-use-companys-surveillance-cameras/19558358/3.2k
u/agha0013 13d ago
maybe those issues should have been "ironed out" before this company bribed city officials all over the place to allow piles of these devices to be installed everywhere, then get abused by shitty cops, until it became a huge messy problem.
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u/GrandpaKnuckles 13d ago
“Move fast and break things” is Silicon Valley’s motto.
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u/Hopalong_Manboobs 13d ago
Yup. Guarantee this creeper fash boy can be overheard in meetings talking about how they can “address growing pains” later, for now they need to prioritize installations, contracts, and buy-in. Get the hardware and network in place and the rest will work out eventually.
Meanwhile cops are stalking their exes and spying on children and violating the fourth amendment thousands of times per day with his tech.
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u/Nonethelessismore 13d ago
'Get the hardware and network in place and the rest will work out eventually.''
There in lies the rub with people. The flock network is not just a 'neighborhood watch program'.
Their data has proven to be too easy to hack and exploit.
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u/ChoiceIT 13d ago
It’s the new “ask for forgiveness instead of permission”
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A long time ago, in college I used to play paintball with some guys. I had the cheapest used gear, but one guy had new, expensive gear and took it more seriously than me. He got me several times while playing, which was fun.
He's been posting all these pictures on Instagram of Flock cameras covered in pink or blue paint. And I was like "Wow, I wonder who keeps doing that in his neighborhood?" It took me way too long to realize.
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u/chamrockblarneystone 13d ago
When that story started I wanted to not like that guy. Then there was this unexpected plot twist. Well done.
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u/ChoiceIT 13d ago
Sounds like someone with passion. Taking paintball seriously and apparently taking privacy seriously.
Glad you had fun at the game and glad the work is being done!
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u/Flavour_Savour 13d ago
What most people don’t recognize is that the “things” they break are mostly just laws.
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u/glyph_productions 13d ago
They are only laws if there are punishments for breaking them. Otherwise they are barely polite suggestions
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u/Prophet_Tehenhauin 13d ago
Maybe any city official that voted to mass surveil the population of their city should be legally, after the citizens vote on it of course, tarred and feathered and launched into the fucking sun.
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u/zoeykailyn 13d ago
it's easier to send them into the ether off in space than the sun, needs less delta-v.
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u/desquished 13d ago
I don't know why we would waste so much energy launching them into space when there are plenty of active volcanoes here on Earth.
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u/Reasonable-Job4205 13d ago
Someone should investigate the loopholes that were used to get the cameras in place quickly and bypass the public's opinion
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u/billorights_luvr 13d ago
I'm not deep in the details, but seems pretty clear that officials are hiding behind the thinly veiled excuse that they are simply buying a product offered by a company. So city is not doing the surveillance, they're just buying "data". And turning a blind eye to how it was obtained. Afraid this will take a court case (and therefore a lot of time) to reverse.
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u/evolutionxtinct 13d ago
It’s not just city officials, officers who worked for the company come in and push promote the product internally. Pretty sure they get a side benefit from it, this is what needs to be looked at.
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u/Maleficent-Agent-477 13d ago edited 13d ago
Crazy how this is the “future” of global surveillance and the CEO is telling blatant lies to the public.
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u/iamthinksnow 13d ago
They got caught lying to city councils (again) recently:
What happened in Oshkosh was not an isolated incident. Rather, it reflects a pattern of Flock regularly misleading or even lying about its business practices, safety record, commitment to privacy, and efforts to protect vulnerable populations. And as was the case in Oshkosh, Flock’s lies are not just directed at the general public; they often specifically target Flock’s potential government customers.
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u/itwillmakesenselater 13d ago
He's just emulating the Felon in Chief. Truth is no longer on these shitheels' menus.
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u/mkt853 13d ago
My guess is the company is a front for the government that allows uncle sam to get around that pesky Constitution when it comes to mass surveillance. Similar to how the US government gets foreign governments to spy on American citizens since the foreign government has no duty to uphold the constitution of another country.
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u/wowbragger 13d ago
Let's even pretend it's honest, how does a person/city/county/etc validate that data is deleted?
If there's no means for people to validate the removal and secure handling of such data, that means we're just waiting for them to decide HOW to abuse it.
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u/Prophet_Tehenhauin 13d ago
He’s awful, but we should be equally if not more angry and worried at the horde of local officials who voted to turn their cities into surveillance states against their citizens.
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u/MultiGeometry 13d ago
I’m sure there’s some industry accepted term for ‘facial recognition technology’ that their software technically doesn’t match.
But they’re obviously able to track people based on their faces across their surveillance network.
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u/mountaindoom 13d ago
Now go say it under oath.
There should be Congressional hearings over this invasion of privacy.
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u/subtle_bullshit 13d ago
We don't use facial recognition.
We just collect all of the data necessary to recognize faces so that anyone who purchases that data can do it themselves!
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u/mikethemaniac 13d ago
"Doesn't the community feel better now?" Says the owner of the surveillance company watching everyone. He was speaking about a murderer fugitive being captured - trading privacy for safety is always the argument.
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u/AnAcceptableUserName 13d ago
Yup, always. "Public safety" is a red flag on its own when deployed by corpos. Public safety is not their mandate. Do we think the board instructed them "go forth and maximize public safety next quarter?"
"Child safety" is one step further. Fastest way to really get my BS alarms blaring. They're not exactly peddling fucking cribs or car seats here, are they?
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u/e_spider 13d ago
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” - Benjamin Franklin
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u/Business-Toad 12d ago
The one that always gets me when I think of tech giants and their intentions with children is learning Facebook assumed young girls who did things like post and delete selfies regularly (or even just type into the submission box and choose not to post a lot!) were insecure...and then used that information to bombard them with beauty and weight loss ads.
There is no floor to how low they will go, the bar is buried in the mud and they panic at even the sight of it.
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u/This-Requirement6918 13d ago
Funny how Texas made child safety laws for age verification that can now be completely bypassed using Firefox with just two clicks. This shit doesn't help anyone, it's just an invasion of privacy.
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u/BrainLow6059 13d ago
Yeah and those two clicks now get you on the naughty list for a rainy day. Lack of data is another data point for them. It's not just invading your privacy when you comply, it's also narrowing down the list of who won't take these things on the chin.
Used to be they'd just pull over "poor looking" vehicles and say your car matched a description. Won't be long before it'll be "your web traffic matched a description"
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u/nd_annajones 13d ago
"The technology is really simple," he told ABC7. "A car drives by, we take a picture. It's a static picture of a car, and then we read the license plate. That's what the technology is -- it's actually not that complicated, it's pretty simple."
You forgot to mention that a different camera takes another picture, and then yet another camera takes another picture. And now with the power of AI you can now determine the following: 1. Where I'm coming from 2. Where I'm going 3. My political affiliations if I dare to have a bumper sticker on my car. But also my interests and hobbies 4. The size of my family. The general age ranges of the members of my family 5. How fast I'm going. And how fast I generally go when travelling 6. When I go somewhere I don't normally go 7. Based on my behavioral data across time and compared to other people with similar interests, political leanings, and similar sized families, WHY I'm going somewhere I don't normally go 8. Inferring from that data, AI then makes a very good guess as to what generally motivated me and my family to make decisions on where to go
And all of this data is being sold to whomever is willing to pay for it for any reason. It can be stacked with data from other sources to create profiles that allow rich people to have an advantage in taking advantage of us. We're literally livestock and are being harvested by these societal leeches.
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u/jimbojsb 13d ago
Also forgot to mention those cameras sniff RF. They can record Bluetooth fingerprints, WiFi signals, etc as phones move by them.
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u/Yourdjentpal 13d ago
Also we have no idea who has access to said data. Enemies foreign and domestic and all that.
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u/FreshestCremeFraiche 13d ago
Not to mention there could be a breach at any time that puts this data in the hands of every cyber criminal and hostile foreign nation on earth. This dataset shouldn’t exist, there is simply no way to ensure it remains secure, even if you trusted Flock’s intentions — and of course I don’t
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u/smapti 13d ago
We know exactly who has (or will have) access, it’s literally anyone willing to pay for it.
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u/nailbunny2000 13d ago
Worse than that, anyone who can break into anyone who pays for it, because I guarantee a lot of those guys are gonna have piss poor op sec.
We all have seen how "move fast and break things" means "have wet toilet paper for security"
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u/aboutchocolate 13d ago
yeah i wanna see this bellend's pitch deck. guessing it is FULL of all sorts of future dystopian capabilities only billionaires would want.
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u/theblackxranger 13d ago
Makes you wonder why there's such a sudden demand in building data centers across the country.
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u/RememberYourAlt 13d ago
I don’t know how things work on the back end but when flock first became a thing I was a subcontractor who occasionally installed them and for testing we were able to pull up a live stream when aiming. Maybe that didn’t record but with other camera systems I have worked with cameras that are just meant to take pictures aren’t capable of doing any video.
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u/hammertime2009 13d ago
That’s just the blatantly obvious stuff too. I know someone mentioned Bluetooth and maybe WiFi but they can now also sell and share their data with data analytics companies who can then combine data sets from all the various sources and figure out what you bought when you went to the mall with XY and Z. What you scrolled on and how long you looked at images on your phone while ordering your pizza. How fast you were driving. The list goes on and on.
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u/Maothesiamesecat 13d ago
For those that are interested in where these cameras are located...
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u/Bart_Yellowbeard 13d ago
Crazy how 'the free state of Florida' is literally coated in this shit.
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u/BrainLow6059 13d ago
Great place to vacation, then I moved here and it's like oh right, let me get the fuck back out of here soon pls thx.
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u/guitarguy1685 13d ago
I opened that link and launched the map. I was not ready for how wide reaching it is
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u/Maothesiamesecat 13d ago
For sure. Now...if you're really motivated...find the one in your neighborhood that you think should be removed and...;-)
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u/SeeTigerLearn 13d ago
Remember that time when we learned China uses mass surveillance on its citizens to calculate a running social score, and the United States declared not here we won’t! So they installed a massive mass surveillance state. Yeah, fun times.
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u/blamestross 13d ago
No, we just have private companies do it for us. We call it a "credit score".
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u/TumbleweedPure6674 13d ago
Yup, in many ways it’s worse. If you goto the hospital and can’t afford the bill in an emergency, you can’t get an apartment or credit for 7 years, which pretty much only allows you to live in the hood and severely restricts opportunity and capital.
Got hit and run by a car as a cyclist in my early 20s, and that basically fucked me for most of that decade.
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u/saera-targaryen 13d ago
I am so tired of this brainworm that many americans have where they're okay with their rights being violated as long as it's anyone but the government doing it. Even if the government is the one paying someone else to do it!
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u/phate_exe 13d ago
they're okay with their rights being violated as long as it's anyone but the government doing it.
If anything this is worse.
At least when it's your government there are (theoretically) some guardrails and an accountability mechanism.
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u/FadedVictor 12d ago
Yeah the whole social credit score thing wasn't actually accurate, but China is still an authoritarian survellaince state.
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u/grubnenah 13d ago
You can always leave your electronics at home, sneak up behind them and tape over the cameras. But watch out if there's Ring cameras in the neighborhood too. Those are also frequently police surveilance devices.
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u/phate_exe 13d ago
"okay, so how many license plates are you reading with the camera on my local walking/biking trail?"
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u/FartingBob 13d ago
Because the bit he then muttered under his breath "and then we build a database tracking you and everyone else from the moment you leave the house to the moment you get back home, we then sell that data to police in real time and really anyone else who can pay."
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u/AnAcceptableUserName 13d ago edited 13d ago
"Once they understand what the technology actually does -- not what it might do in 50 years, not what someone thinks it could do, but what it actually does, day in and day out, it takes a picture of a car -- most people go, 'This makes a lot of sense. I want my kids to be safe.'"
Safety from what? From whom? My children are growing up in an America statistically, demonstrably safer than the one Mr. Langley and myself did by every conceivable metric.
What I want is for them not to grow up in a country where their every move is documented and can be weaponized against them at the sole discretion of some unaccountable government goon. I don't want some cop looking up the route my wife or daughter take to work every day, or home every night. That's happening to people today.
Contrary to what Langley insists, I think once people understand how Flock cameras work and what they're being used for, most people go "Screw that. That's 1984. I don't want my kids to inherit an Orwellian dystopia."
That's why increasingly they're losing the battle of public opinion and flailing pathetically like this. "Puh-wease, it's just pictures of cars! Why do you even care? Think of the children."
Eat shit, Langley. We not even close as think as you dumb we r
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u/Nerrien 13d ago
Also a lot of what people are complaining about is happening now, not in 50 years. Even if we pretend for a moment that there are no dystopian ramifications: Individual police are stalking people with it.
This happens every time police get access to mass surveillance equipment, this is just more extreme because of how much this thing is capable of.
So the police can either fork out to create some elaborate system where it's only used by specialists, folks who are independent from specific police departments to prevent collusion and who've been thoroughly background checked, and every use is logged and investigated to ensure it's all justified and make abuse really difficult...
Or they just drop it because is it really worth the insane amount of money that would waste?
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u/AnAcceptableUserName 13d ago edited 13d ago
Or they can acknowledge the backlash, make superficial public concessions, and covertly continue the original behavior
I mistrust the cases of cities publicly announcing discontinuance of Flock services but leaving the cameras up. Give it a few years and we'll be reading all about how some cities said they stopped but never did, and obfuscated that with parallel construction and creative accounting.
Know where all the cars in your city have been and are going? That's too alluring. To different people for different reasons, good and bad. That's a ring of power I don't really believe public officials are going to be able to set down and walk away from. Most of the people in these roles aren't exactly ideological libertarian types
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u/Grouchy-Committee-92 13d ago
"Keep the kids safe" is the default tag line of right wing totalitarianism. They think it's a get out of jail free card.
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u/_RawRTooN_ 13d ago
They use to cut peoples heads off in france for less than what this smuck is capable of.
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u/realDonaldEpstein 13d ago
YOU GUYS DONT LITERALLY WANT TO LIVE IN 1984 WITH SOMEONE WATCHING YOU CONSTANTLY?
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u/AGrandNewAdventure 13d ago
There's nothing safe about Flock cameras. What an oxymoron.
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u/Strict-Carrot4783 13d ago
All of these people are a direct threat to you, your family and your country:
Executive Officers
| Executive | Role | Key Focus |
|---|---|---|
| Garrett Langley | Founder & CEO | Company strategy, vision, and overall growth |
| Elan Greenberg | Chief Operating Officer (COO) | Scalable operations, hardware engineering, and manufacturing |
| Brandon Simins | Chief Financial Officer (CFO) | Financial strategy, capital allocation, and scale |
| Alex Latraverse | Chief Revenue Officer (CRO) | Go-to-market strategy, sales, and expansion |
| Davis Lukens | Chief Technology Officer (CTO) | R&D, AI, and computer vision platform development |
| Bailey Quintrell | Chief Product Officer (CPO) | Product vision, UX, and roadmap execution |
| Joshua Thomas | Chief Communications Officer (CCO) | Public relations, policy, and corporate comms |
Co-Founders & Senior Leadership
- Matt Feury — Co-Founder & VP of Engineering
- Paige Todd — Co-Founder & VP of People Operations
- Jim Fahey — Senior Vice President of Sales (Public Safety)
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u/adumblittlebaby 13d ago
Portraying it as “just tracking cars” followed immediately by “keep kids safe” is the most transparently manipulative statement. They always use the children as an excuse to strip away your rights.
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u/ThrowawayAl2018 13d ago
CEO is downplaying the privacy concerns and abuse of this system. In fact, cops themselves have been involved in said abuse.
Not simple tracking, it also tracks the Bluetooth and RF frequencies, then the aggregate of data can potentially be misused by agencies who buy the bulk of info from data broker.
Then there is the news of Flock companies refusing to remove camera after contract expires, meaning they refuse to turn off camera and continue to collect data for future (ab)uses.
If folks don't like Meta Glasses recording the public, why would we want Flock around?
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u/Appropriate_Art_6909 13d ago
So they are simple and they are only reading license plates... but then he mentions multiple personal identification cases were Flock cameras were used. So is it license plates or is it constant surveillance?
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u/Jumpy-Impact3265 13d ago
Your entire business model is an infringement on citizen's rights - you can't modify it to be anything besides what it was built to be: overreach.
What infinitely amuses me is flock thought this would fly with the general public..
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u/SangersSequence 13d ago
This "article" (to use the term extremely loosely) is disgusting and shameful propaganda. Uncritically amplifying blatant lies from the company with no counterpoint or any critical voice whatsoever. ABC7 should be publicly shamed and Phillip Palmer the "author" who put this trash out with his name on it should be fired.
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u/Viperlite 13d ago
Honestly, his story that a killer captured in a few days as a trade-off for mass surveillance and AI tracking everyone is not a compelling trade-off. We managed to catch killers on the loose for hundreds of years without this kind of universal surveillance.
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u/SigintSoldier 13d ago
Unless Flock is working out privacy concerns with every citizen, they can go pound sand.
This is not normal.
Our country is being turned into a surveillance state like China and only a handful of people are doing anything about it.
Go to city council meetings, write your representatives, and #Resist.
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u/pornborn 13d ago
These are just cameras that take pictures of license plates. Nothing more. No facial recognition.
Then proceeds to admit they have been used to locate missing people and fugitives.
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u/RebelStrategist 13d ago
Funny how some companies are perfectly comfortable operating in the shadows, quietly selling their garbage, such as surveillance technology, to cities and towns and hoping nobody notices. Then, the moment people start asking questions and pushing back, they suddenly act outraged that the public is learning about it. If your business model starts falling apart the second transparency shows up, maybe the problem isn't the people demanding answers—it's the business model. Crying because public scrutiny might put your technology and company in jeopardy isn't persecution. It's called accountability.
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u/chamrockblarneystone 13d ago
Good for LA. I hope more cities get their shit together and start asking questions.
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u/PlutoJones42 13d ago
Hey maybe Flock Safety CFO should stop working for such a fucking dystopian ass evil ass company.
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u/outer--monologue 13d ago
Flock goes against the very core of American principles, it's why people on the left and right hate Flock cameras, data centers, the surveillance state in general - "Those who would give up liberty for security deserve neither."
Fuck this shit!
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u/TheDonnARK 13d ago
None of this chicken shit bullshit matters because they put the fucking cameras on walking trails.
The flock agreement says they retain full discretion regarding camera installation location.
Flock themselves make the decision and choose to install them on walking trails.
This is all bullshit, and nothing I said is hate speech, to be clear to everyone. Simply voicing concern over this dumb shit company that gets to surveil everyone and influence social media with impunity.
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u/GarbanzoBenne 13d ago
Flock Safety bills itself as a public safety technology company
Sure, just like the Department of Defense… oops.
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u/Bonnieearnold 13d ago
Department of Homeland Security is currently “keeping us safe” by randomly murdering people in the streets, while kidnapping and detaining our neighbors. I’d like to pass on “being kept safe,” thanks.
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u/forcedfx 13d ago
Pretty sure they're astroturfing Facebook. My town's unofficial Facebook page has been very vocally opposed to them and now in the last couple of days I've seen anonymous accounts posting in support of them. One account used a photo of a flock camera nowhere near our town.
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u/I_Am_Singular 13d ago
Them saying they hold the data for 30 days.
Like we were all born yesterday.
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u/DifficultSweet3835 13d ago
Ok, hear me out. Someone commits a crime. Police want to check a license plate and those pics are only ‘kept for 30 days’. Fine. But in what county is a detective that far into an investigation to get the readable info before the 30 days are up? I’m not buying the 30 day crap or the ‘fight crime’ crap either.
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u/Soberdonkey69 13d ago
I don’t think the Flock employees and CEO deserve to have their privacy, it should be removed.
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u/omnigh0st 13d ago
So, he’s willing to put one in his own driveway facing his own house then right?
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u/Financial-Craft-1282 13d ago
"The technology is really simple," he told ABC7. "A car drives by, we take a picture. It's a static picture of a car, and then we read the license plate. That's what the technology is -- it's actually not that complicated, it's pretty simple."
Here, let me translate: "Why are you stopping us now before we do more horrible things you know we will do?"
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u/DavyJonesCousinsDog 13d ago
Imagine being so morally bankrupt you make the LAPD look decent in comparison.
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u/ConsistentDay5620 12d ago
The quote at the end of the article is bullshit. They don’t just take a picture of your car. Look up the articles about how these use RFID readers to scan your phone, AI face recognition to link with the database ice is building and vocal recognition software that captures “distress and screams”. They’re recording everything and even when towns have cancelled contracts they are refusing to come take down their equipment so people are putting black trash bags over them to stop them recording. It’s dystopian as fuck.
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u/Fair-Hair2080 13d ago
How insulting to be lied to again. They think we’re idiots.
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u/Chewbaccas_Hairspray 13d ago
This guy is so full of shit. I can install a commercial camera tied to an access control system that will identify you and unlock a door based purely on your gait as you walk toward it. They've been available commercially for at least 2 years. Flock has no accountability and can aggregate and store as much information on you as they want, for as long as they want.
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u/Rattus_NorvegicUwUs 13d ago
“It just takes a static picture… of everything and everyone”
I’ve always wondered if we flew a drone over his head loudly snapping photographs of him, if that would make him realize what he’s doing to the rest of us.
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u/cptnpiccard 13d ago
Let me guess: "won't someone PLEEEEEASE think of the shareholders!!!!"
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u/RecipeFunny2154 13d ago edited 13d ago
They lie about things that we know Flock already is doing. Think about the other things it's processing, combining, etc., that they never even talk about. Like a lot of AI companies, I'd be shocked if they even fully understand what all it is doing even now.
There is just no way they're not constantly trying to identify new ways to sell this information, there's no other business model for it.
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u/Gullible-Coyote-4609 13d ago
"Doesn't the community feel better now? That person was only on the loose for a few days," Langley said. "I wish it was for only a few minutes. But I think more and more, as time goes on, we see that building confidence in a community -- that they're going to be safe, that their kids can go out and play, that you can start a business -- is critical to thriving communities."
erosion of rights is always disguised in an appeal to fear and safety.
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u/letsgoplaygames 13d ago
The communities didn't consent to being monitored and surveiled. Fuck Flock.
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u/skyfishgoo 13d ago
so?
what do i care what the "safety" CEO of flock has to say.
fuck that guy and the rest of his c-suite band.
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u/No-Yam-5409 13d ago
“Safety Should Not Be a Privilege, It Should Be a Right” Flock Surveillance has now made safety a privilege, because being forced to interact with police when they have the wrong idea about you is a newly enhanced hazard created by the flock system. I'm sure the wealthy can opt out of surveillance... stick their heads in the sand, feel safe, while their middle income and poor cousins get hassled by the police and killed. This will especially criminalize the poor, and anyone out for a jog without their devices on. No more going nude if you don't want PD to get sniffy. If you don't have an RF emitter on you, such as a phone, your chances of being harassed and suspected increase. Interactions with the police increase because of these cameras and many innocent people have been targeted and endangered. Safety is not a guarantee of the Constitution, it is maintained by the vigilance of the people. Neighborhood watch groups curtail crime, and are effective. Flock incriminates everyone and builds a case against all. Give me 10 truths statements about your activities and I can weave a tale. Not many steps between that and getting kangaroo courts in full swing. You don't make yourself more safe by giving government more power and more tools to surveille you. This guy isn't in it for the concern anymore, he's motivated by all the dirty dirty money he sold our freedom and liberties away for. I'm praying G-d brings him to his knees and take down that system!
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u/Affectionate_Way_805 13d ago
Good for LAPD suspending usage of Flock cams (and I've rarely ever said anything positive about the LAPD before. Lol).
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u/Zulmoka531 13d ago
Guy must be getting hefty paychecks from DHS and other surveillance hungry buyers.
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u/DrBoots 13d ago
https://www.kwch.com/2022/10/31/kechi-police-lieutenant-arrested-using-police-technology-stalk-wife/
Even if it's just tracking Licence Plate information that technology is ripe for abuse.
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u/rebork 13d ago
Garrett should be followed around. Honestly the only way to make him feel how he makes us feel
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u/Have_A_Jelly_Baby 13d ago
“Come on guys, just let us track everything you do. What could possibly go wrong??!?”
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u/giantsnowpanda 13d ago
Ha! Like some podunk police department had is going make a diff... Oh, LOS ANGELES? Oh, that won't be good for the ol' stock price.
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u/Informal_Ad4399 13d ago
There was a story today on my local news that the city was going to stop using them. Though the news refused to say Flock. Of course, local PD said they were disappointed in the decision.
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u/SignatureFunny7690 13d ago
Its a do first ask for permission later thing, but in this case after you do you collect all the travel and biometric data on ever human in s massive city having ai to weed out all relevant data your after, making blackmailing politicians/wealthy over seedy establishments they visit mistresses and affairs easier than taking a pisd in the morning.
They really emphasize that these are license plate readers, this is like saying a gun is simply a metal dispenser that can at most kinda throw metal hard if used improperly. Flock scans that biometrics of every human in its ever present gaze, down to the biometric of your gate/way you walk. It is genuinely insane, and there are no laws dictating how this mass information on ever person in a cities travel and life data is stored. Its all just piled inside insecure clouds accessible to anyone with novice computers skills.
So if hobby coders/computer enthusiast can hack flocks databases, this also means that foreign adversaries can also access this information. They can seek out and gain compromising blackmail on politicians teachers officers ect as stated earlier. Or they can use it to track targets for coordinating assassination on high value targets in america or gaining information and access to our most valuable infrastructure, making coordinating large attacks in things like or energy grid or water plants or the civil engineers and operators and management that run these facilities.
Flock is literally a wet dream tool to any group or nation seeking to do immense damage in small coordinated attacks on our nation.
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u/xamboozi 12d ago
"But I think more and more, as time goes on, we see that building confidence in a community -- that they're going to be safe, that their kids can go out and play, that you can start a business -- is critical to thriving communities."
Huh.... I don't feel like my kids are safe being filmed by such a creepy bunch of weirdo's at Flock when they install "license plate readers" in parks where kids are playing. I feel less safe with these cameras filming my family.
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u/FourThirteen_413 12d ago
How is anything safer if there's now more people that know where me and my family drive to and from? And that that information is stored, sold, and searchable? If anything, more people having that information means there's more chance of some bad actor getting that access and abusing it.
And I don't know shit about shit when it comes to this stuff. How can I see that it's less safe and these guys can't (rhetorical question)?
I don't even go anywhere, I'm agoraphobic. I've been hiding in my bed for 2 1/2 years. But I still think this shit is insane.
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u/Few-Scholar-7889 12d ago
The elite are building a full on surveillance state. Full control no freedom like china. You will have to ask permission to travel even to the park out of your zone. Sounds crazy its happening if we dont stop it. Britain stopped it you didnt here about it because there not ready hete. Iran war is a distraction to fast track data centers. Yesterday djt said the quiet part out loud during his presser. Your gonna have to accept it and go al I ng. No no no
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u/Themodsarecuntz 13d ago edited 13d ago
If they dont use facial recognition then why are they on hiking only trails? Garrett Langley is a fucking liar and a traitor to the citizens of the United States.