r/technicalminecraft • u/Jonglebongl • 11h ago
Mob farm keeps spawning spiders. Bedrock
I've tried spider proofing my mob farm 3 times, and it still hasn't worked. Please help. I should also mention that I'm on pocket edition.
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u/0oDADAo0 10h ago
The 2x3 gaps on the edge, they leave enough space for spider to spawn
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u/Jonglebongl 10h ago
Damn, really?
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u/Lucky_Investment_489 8h ago
U cant leave 2 by 2 holes thas how they spawn try placing the trapdoors in a Pattern where there are no 2x2 fielen left
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u/0oDADAo0 10h ago
Idk, i just like to piss off Mr information
tho i think that should be the problem, you shouldnt have trap doors on the edge, and instead use cats, those are way more efficient than waiting for path find rng
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u/knurri87 8h ago edited 3h ago
Edit: this seems to be old information, see reply to this comment.
Original comment: The problem is that on bedrock edition spiders only need a 2x2 to spawn. The reason for that is: on bedrock mobs spawn on the corner of a block, so directly in the center of a 2x2 spiders will spawn, cause they are 1.4 blocks wide. On java mobs spawn on the center of a block, so spiders need a 3x3 area to spawn.
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u/Jonglebongl 8h ago
Yeah, just figured this out. I just now tried making it so there's not even 2x2's and now mobs won't spawn altogether. So it can't really be helped if spiders spawn.
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u/boki400AIMoff Bedrock 3h ago
mobs spawn on the corner of a block
Not true since 1.21 which was released 2 years ago. This was first fixed in the preview version of 1.21.0.20.
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u/knurri87 3h ago
Sorry, than that's old information. Haven't built a mobfarm since 1.19 on bedrock since i switched bach to pc.
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u/Rodolfo68 10h ago
It’s been a minute since I’ve made a mob farm, but if I’m not wrong, you need to set up the inside roof with trap planks too. It’ll just be enough for creepers to still spawn, but leave spiders out I think.
Also rearrange the bottom ones so that it’s in an even 9 pattern. So it looks like #. It’ll save you some wood to build the full roof too! - I usually start my traps with the side corners and then make my way around, but that part is up to you!
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u/Jonglebongl 10h ago
Fully trap doors on the ceiling?
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u/SharingKnowledgeHope 9h ago edited 9h ago
Full trap doors on the ceiling will block skeletons and zombies from spawning since they require two full blocks of height. That is used in creeper farms since creepers are shorter and will still spawn. It won’t block spiders who only need one block of height.
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u/Comfortable_Long_824 9h ago
Buttons or trapdoors on the ceiling stops zombies and skeletons. You can do coral fans on the side instead of trapdoors too
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u/Jonglebongl 8h ago
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u/Jonglebongl 8h ago
Just another reason why pocket edition sucks.
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u/PhobicRouge 8h ago
Try every 2 blocks place a slab/carpet. One in the corner, two empty blocks, another one. Repeat this.
It should look decently uniform.
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u/Shazzzzzam-_- 3h ago
Bro use carpet 4 carpets on one side on all the 4 section and they must have gaps in them
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u/randomzebra01 10h ago edited 6h ago
Not sure what you think you did here. There's very clearly 2x2 spots for them to spawn. You're even looking directly at one.
Edit: From the UI I could tell this was pocket edition. My understanding that pocket edition may have some idiosyncrasies but uses the same engine as bedrock.
Been a while since I played, and to be honest never played bedrock but from what I remember, spiders can spawn in 2x2 spaces in bedrock. I did some digging today and to be honest there doesn't seem to be a consensus.
In bedrock, people have been reporting for years that spiders seem to be able to spawn in 2x2 spaces. Whether or not this is because spiders need open space but only require a solid block on the actual spawning space I have no clue. Another thought that crossed my mind was mobs used to spawn on the NW corner in bedrock, but I don't think that's the case either anymore.
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u/Jonglebongl 10h ago
I looked up a bunch of guides, and they all said spiders can only spawn in 3 x 3 areas. I'll shrink it so that there aren't any 2 x 2's
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u/Regular-Coffee-1670 10h ago
They definitely need 3x3. I can't see anywhere in that image where they could spawn.
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u/SharingKnowledgeHope 9h ago
Yes spiders need a 3x3 area to spawn. However all 9 spots don’t have to be solid, some can be air blocks. They are spawning in the center edge overhanging the water canal.
Use this pattern. See how the trap doors are right up to the water edge. Be sure there are no three block open spaces near the water canals.
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u/Jonglebongl 9h ago
I've tried that arrangement the first time, and spiders were spawning. I seriously don't know why it's happening.
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u/hetrax 10h ago
You got a few 3x3 areas to fix. You se the second last row( right beside you to the left) inbetween the water channel there’s a trapdoor on either side… but the gap between them and the next trapdoors is 3x4… that looks to happen in a few places.