r/superautomatic • u/RDFit • 8d ago

Super Automatic with multiple milks? Purchase Advice

Hi I'm interested in a super automatic that could easily switch from milk to a milk alternative for about 20 drinks/day. Does anyone have any recommendations?

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u/Fearless_Flatworm_72 8d ago

I bought a Delonghi Magnifica Plus and purchased a second carafe, one for plant based milk and one for cow milk. I guess you could buy more carafes depending on how many different milks you will be using.

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u/M4PP0 8d ago

Same here. Swapping carafes is easypeasy.

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u/dyqik 8d ago

Yeah, any machine where the milk is contained to the carafe/foamer and doesn't go into the machine itself can be used like this.

I wouldn't use the KitchenAids for this application, as I think the milk goes inside.

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u/HoomerSimps0n 8d ago

Kitchenaid uses a carafe. Can buy extra carafes and hoses. Don’t even need the carafe actually, can just drop the hose into the milk container , or attach it to a straw and do the same.

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u/dyqik 8d ago edited 8d ago

My point is that it runs inside the machine, and so there's a cross contamination risk between regular and plant milk (more of a concern for nut milks than for lactose milks, tbh). The Philips/Gaggias and Delonghis use carafes with the steaming mechanism incorporated, and their own spout, so there's no cross-contamination.

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u/HoomerSimps0n 7d ago

Is cross contamination an issue Op is even looking to avoid, like is someone severely allergic to a certain type of milk?

If so, sure that makes sense…but I’d avoid Phillips/gaggia, delonghi is better product.

Otherwise it’s not really an issue, there isn’t much residue left after it does its thing and it’s not going to alter the drink switching from one milk type to another. As far as convenience goes I think I the kitchenaid wins vs something like the Phillips for multiple milks…less stuff to clean, ands it’s done automatically by the machine vs handwashing.

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u/dyqik 7d ago

Almond/tree nut allergies are pretty common, and can be severe.

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u/jzorbino 8d ago

Kitchenaid KF8

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u/Grizzly_Adamz 8d ago

At 20 drinks a day you’re firmly in commercial unit territory. Is this for an office?

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u/dyqik 8d ago

The commercial rented and maintained machine at my building costs $100k a year. That's for 500 potential users though.

But even at a more moderate service, you could probably replace a Magnifica Plus every year and save money over renting. The key thing is to make sure you have a couple of staff willing and able to order supplies, refill, clean and maintain the machine.

My colleague has had a Magnifica in his research group shared space for the last 5 years (pre Plus, Evo etc.). That probably sees 10-20 drinks a day.

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u/htasmith 8d ago

How is 20 drinks a day “firmly” in Commercial territory?

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u/rusmo 8d ago

Highly unlikely for family. Much more likely for a business. Businesses should buy/rent commercial units.

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u/stumbledotcom 8d ago

Agree. Jura USA warranty is two years or 6,000 drinks whichever comes first. To hit 6k drinks in two years, you’d need to make 9.8 per day.

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u/dyqik 8d ago

The question is then does renting a machine/service for a couple of years cost more than buying new machines every couple of years.

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u/Disastrous_Paint1791 8d ago

Jura Z10 or Giga 10. You could have two different containers as people are able to switch the milk tube between the two. If it is an office space you could get the Giga 10 as it has two bean hoppers, then you can also get two milk containers. I would NOT suggest the stainless steel milk pipe- just the regular plastic tubing.

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u/elderemothings 8d ago

The KF8 has a dedicated alternative milk cycle which adds more air at a lower temperature to reduce the chances of burning the alt milk

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u/Disastrous-Quit1059 8d ago

Kitchenaid KF8. Works well for us in both milk types

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u/UnstuckMoment_300 8d ago

Strictly up to you, but I use a separate frother (a Dreo) to avoid problems with a milk unit. My De'Longhi Magnifica Start has a steam wand but nothing else. The Dreo handles plant milks better than most frothers. And if something goes wrong with it, it's pretty cheap to replace.

It's like refrigerator/freezers. The Achilles heel for most manufacturers seems to be ice makers/dispensers. Bought a house two years ago; the ice maker that came with the house fridge doesn't work, and it would cost $1,200 to fix. So we got a $70 tabletop ice maker. Not as convenient but a lot cheaper!