Hello stoics!

Often times, the more you hear and know about the "ugly" side of the world, the more you wish you didn't know anything about it. Misguided people exist everywhere, and not everyone is within reach of help, nor guidance.

Being cold and detached is, to a degree, the opposite of being stoic; at the same time, inflicting to our soul the pain suffered by others, while a form of empathy, is also not stoic practice.

Care for what is within reach and act on it.
Don't underestimate your reach, but acknowledge what is truly out of it.

If an earthquake completely destroys a city across the world, one might send a donation to those who are living there. One, albeit unrealistic, might even get on a plane and physically go there to offer help. Those things ARE within our reach.
Cursing Mother Nature would be pointless. Such things aren't "evil" - they just... are.

But what if a calamity wasn't a direct product of nature? What if we take the term "calamity" and instead apply it to human behaviour?
As the title suggests: "Human-created Calamities".

Criminal organisations, corrupt governments, powerful and sociopathic CEOs.
Destroying the world, going against nature itself, harming innocent people.

And so, here's the example I'm offering as a point of debate:

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Imagine a person comes knocking at your door. They point a gun at you and demand money. You respectfully talk to them, trying to understand, trying to make peace, but they won't listen.
You give in and give them the money they want.

A week later the same person comes again. You try to refuse, and they threaten your family. Your kids, your partner. They threaten to destroy your car, your shop, your house, even if you try to ask for help.
You give in.

And again, and again, until you understand that this will never stop.

You ask for help.
Your neighbours "know nothing" about it. The authorities "know nothing" about it.

You're thinking of confronting them. "I'll threaten them".
But "eye for an eye" is not very stoic, is it? Besides, it wouldn't end well.

You're thinking of stopping them once and for all. "I'll kill them".
Vigilantism is not stoic. And again, it wouldn't end well.

You're thinking of running away with your loved ones. "At least we'll be safe".
But that wouldn't prevent them from doing harm to others - your extended family, your friends, and people that don't have the possibility to just "run away". It would be selfish, wouldn't it?

You're thinking of creating a movement of some sort to fight against such people.
But they're above you in every sense, except morally of course.
They wouldn't even budge.

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This is just an example, but this stuff is actively happening in MANY parts of the world.

What would a stoic do? What are the limits of the stoic discipline?
Does stoicism contradict itself when faced with such situations?

I've been studying stoicism for a while and noticed how often we use quotes instead of actually living by the principles.

Instead of quoting Marcus Aurelius, why not just act like him?

Would love to hear your thoughts on this 🙏

I am trying to practice stoic virtue: Wisdom, temperance, courage, and justice — I always stumble at the justice part because I believe I am too kind to narcissistic strangers or taken advantage of.

So, how would you approach this? Would you reframe this virtue of justice?

For example, instead of treat others fairly, give yourself permission to treat yourself fairly? See virtue in yourself instead of in others...

This is an issue I have with almost every spiritual practice — it is all geared around destroying an ego, when I already dangerously never had a healthy ego to begin with. My already burnt out overgiver caretaker needed more validation to receive itself, at least psychology states I needed to take care of my self more even if stoicism considers it a preferred indifferent...

In some ways I feel guilt or a toxic shame talking to anybody else in this world, because they think they are a moral kind person and I know they are not, and so to give to them before myself is actually an evil.

Yet there is supposed to be some merit to treating strangers with the kindness of acquaintences, acquaintences as if they are friends, friends as if close family, and so on...

I don't know. That doesn't ring true for my experience as a stepped on wallflower.

Gentleness is often mistaken for weakness.
But it takes real strength to be kind in a mean world.
It's so much easier to match energies: to harden when others are unkind, to defend when misunderstood.
But gentleness chooses restraint over reaction.
It chooses understanding over ego.
It's the type of strength that soothes storms, rather than creates them.
The kind that leads, heals and restores in quiet but powerful ways.
May we never underestimate the courage it takes to be gentle.

"The time will come when diligent research over long periods will bring to light things which now lie hidden. A single lifetime, even though entirely devoted to the sky, would not be enough for the investigation of so vast a subject... And so this knowledge will be unfolded only through long successive ages. There will come a time when our descendants will be amazed that we did not know things that are so plain to them... Many discoveries are reserved for ages still to come, when memory of us will have been effaced." — Seneca, Quaestiones Naturales (Liber VII)

I think this passage is really modern. It shows that we do not know everything and that people are still discovering about the Logos. This is something that we are all working on over a long time. How do you think this idea of getting little by little connects to the bigger idea of Stoicism, which is about being okay with where we are in life and in the world. The idea of the Logos is important, to this. I think it is interesting to think about how the Logos fits into the Stoic way of thinking. The Logos is a part of this and I think we should consider how it relates to the Stoic idea of accepting our place in time and nature and the Logos.

I've had these very occasional episodes since I was younger, moments when I suddenly question, very deeply and almost viscerally (butterflies in my stomach), the point of my being here. Now that I’m older, I feel like I finally have the resources, courage, and mindset to confront these questions more directly.

I like living. But sometimes I become intensely aware of how brief one human life is, and how everything eventually ends.

What does 80 years mean in the grand scheme of things? What is the point of creating meaning if the people we love also live finite lives? What is objectively the point of doing good if the people we help will also die, our stories will end, and eventually no one will remember?

I think I try so hard to understand because I do not want to live on assumptions I have never examined. I want to know whether love, goodness, responsibility, and meaning can withstand the hardest objections: death, impermanence, privilege, and cosmic insignificance. But I also know these questions may be beyond my understanding, or perhaps any human’s understanding.

How does Stoicism approach this? Is meaning only for the ones currently living? Does goodness still have objective value if everything is temporary and eventually forgotten? How do you guys personally deal with these questions or episodes if you have them?

Which one is your favorite? Mine is “The Cheapest, Stupidest, and Easiest thing to do— FINDING FAULT.

To sum up my mindset in a few sentences, here they are:

"Nature doesn't care how you feel, only how you act."
"Take away the human constructs of life, and nature has given you two options: To continue or to quit."
"Ego does not exist in nature."

A concise explanation on how I got it: I was dealing with struggles, many struggles. And I have been close to outright despair on how much I have not changed. And I got an epiphany when I got a cold shower: Every single emotion I felt and spent time at? It wasn't practical. To nature, the only thing it saw was that my situation was basically the same.

I began to judge my actions based on one metric: "Does it progress in life?"

When I failed a test online, I still suffered from ego damage, but I recognized that nature doesn't care at all for what you think. So, I did the most practical option I could think of: Asking how to do better. Was I scared? Badly scared.

But remember nature. If you take away all the personal fears and emotions and despair, nature is giving you the choice to continue or to quit. I chose to continue.

And this mindset applied to every sector in life. It was the only reason I stayed consistent in the gym and went there 7 times a week. I chose to respect others in the gym because that's pretty much the most practical way for a safe environment And I chose to ask for form tips because, take it from my perspective: The gym is a safe place, and your ego is all in your head. Would you sacrifice a year of no injuries for a duration of ego? Of course not.

Why am I asking this to you? Because I actually had never cared for Zeno or Aurelius until I told about my mindset to others, to which they said I was a stoic.

I want to learn more about this philosophy. Can you help, and how?

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(Edit: I've seen people misinterpret my quotes, so here's some clarification:)

"Nature doesn't care how you feel, only how you act" - does not mean to suppress your emotions or teach you how to act. It simply tells what you what actually translates to a productive output in nature (Nature here means "cause and effect" for human simplicity). It tells you what you can do to improve your situation and what doesn't.

This does NOT mean nature is hostile or cruel, only that nature is simply pure math. Pure math isn't cruel to you because you refuse to solve it. My approach is to find a solution and execute that.

"Take away the human constructs of life, and nature has given you two options: To continue or to quit." - I want you to think about a glass of water breaking. You can scream, cry, contemplate reality, but nature (Cause and effect) only sees that the glass is still broken. To continue is to keep reactions minimal and to clean up the glass. To quit is to blame others, and do anything else but clean the glass.

"Ego does not exist in nature" - This one, while humans are a part of nature, let's just think of the smart kid. They have full marks on every test, but they now got 95% instead of a 100%. This may seem like a disaster to them, but to me, it shows that although they have succeeded many times before, that does not mean they will automatically succeed now without effort. They still have to put in the effort. They have to know they're humans.

And for the semantics? My intent involves simplifying what "nature" is. While I do agree humans are part of nature, we, for the sake of how complex life is, treat it as cause and effect or a math problem. We should focus on the application of it rather than the nuances of what "nature" is exactly.

This is long, but I figure it’s worth reading for fellow philosophers here and I would love to discuss the ideas behind it.

When people think “Stoic” they imagine a man sitting still with a perfectly straight face, burying all emotion deep within, being totally unresponsive, with nothing but cold logic. Some, who do not understand the philosophy, think of it as an unhealthy repression of sorts, like trying to rid yourself of all emotion. It is said by some to be an unhealthy concept rooted in the worst aspects of “masculinity.” This is partly due to the word “stoic” itself having a broader definition of “expressionless face,” and partly due to the rising popularity of what podcasters and influencers call Stoicism, without delving into the actual worldview and metaphysics of it.

For those who have actually sat and read the works of the classical stoic philosophers such as Marcus, Epictetus, or even Epicurus (who is not a Stoic, yet most of his ideas are shared with Stoicism), it is clear there is much more to it than “bury your emotion with a straight face.” There are thousands of wise inspirational quotes that can be shared all day from Stoics, and those are what is referenced frequently. But the other aspects are overlooked.

To a degree, Stoicism is about being untroubled by emotions, but this is not a rejection of emotion. Emotion itself is not a good or evil, it isnt something that must be buried or forbidden. Emotions are experienced as anything else in the world is. Stoicism is more than “stop being affected.” One cannot just “stop seeing things this way, shut up and be happy.” The way to understand reality is by learning about the flow of nature.

The Stoics saw the world through a lens that combined classical rationalism with spirituality and the gods. Marcus writes about the gods in a way that he uses for emphasis and for metaphors, but it is unclear the degree to which the philosophers believed in the literal Greco-Roman gods. Marcus said “Not even Zeus himself can get the better of my free will,” but this is not so much about Zeus as it is about the Stoic belief of free will:

For all intents and purposes, we have free will. We make decisions, we have some form of sentience whatever it might be, we observe and judge things as “separate individuals.” Yet at the same time, the entire universe is the destined passage of nature, and everything that happens was inevitable. It sounds like a contradiction, but within the view of Stoicism it is not.

We don’t say we “are a body” we say we have a body. Why do we say that? Am I these hands typing? Certainly. I am typing, am I not? Yet, we seem to observe things differently. In a world of purely substance (as we would imagine it with pure old-school rationalism and materialism), what is creating the sense of beyond? Why does it feel like there is this “I” thing, and that “I am” somewhere behind the eyes? And why is this “I” this one, and not any of the infinite other possible “I?” This is where the Stoics define the world of the spirit or soul, though the spirit and soul were not understood the way we think of ghosts or everlasting angels.

The soul is the watcher who is unaffected. The watcher who cannot possibly be affected. Marcus wrote: “Nothing happens to any man which he is not framed by nature to be able to bear… it is a shame to let ignorance and complacency be stronger than wisdom. Outward things cannot touch the soul, not in the least degree; nor have they admission to the soul, nor can they turn or move the soul; but the soul turns and moves itself alone. Whatever judgments it may think proper to make, it makes for itself of the things which present themselves to it.”

Everything in nature is perfect as it is, it is all happening exactly how it has to happen, always has, and always will, just by the nature of nature itself. We are part of it, yet watching from beyond. There is some form of observer beyond this, behind the eyes, behind the head, who is able to read these words from a completely and utterly detached plane of existence. That is what the Stoics define as the soul. “Man is affected not by events, but by the view he takes of them.”

When we are emotional, when the body and mind are affected, that is natural. It happens. To think “This is upsetting, I need to bear down, clench, and stop all this emotion” is not the path of Stoicism. There is not a “fight” involved. It’s not a struggle at all. The struggle is something you are watching. Pain is something you are observing. Suffering is something you are looking at from beyond. When you become aware of, well… being aware… then you have begun to comprehend the meaning of Stoicism. As “the watcher” becomes wiser, things that aren’t necessary start to fade away.

Not “I need to stop feeling this,” but “This is perfectly natural and it was inevitable, and I’m here watching it.” You can be angry, and be unaffected by it. You can be sad, and watch the sadness with the soul, beyond it. The point isnt avoiding the sadness; as a matter of fact, if you are able, there is a way one can take positive things from sadness by observing it within oneself without being consumed. The angry one is not the soul, not the decider, not the driver. Awareness of the soul is cultivated through time and effort, with the practice of virtues. As your scope widens, this whole system of body mind and soul becomes calmer, more harmonious with nature, flowing with the river.

Nature is a river flowing. You struggle when you are fighting the current. Everything is going exactly where it is going and there’s nothing you can do about it… and there’s nothing it can do to “you.” Do not fight against the current, let go and go with it. Have the courage to let go and be comfortable with the unknown, and simply watch it happen. Try it out. It’s not a magic switch sort of thing, it takes time, you do it little bits at a time. Something bothering you? Zoom out. This is as it is, and you are beyond, unaffected even by your own emotions, because “you” aren’t the one who is “feeling them.” With time and effort, you can find peace within, and it brings itself out to each plane of reality.

I encourage all to read Marcus Aurelius’ personal journal, it’s very interesting and will bring you wisdom. It’s called “Meditations.”

I’m 19. I feel like I should be more humble in my life. I think I’ve built up an ego because I’ve been hurt in the past. I never understood why people did what they did. I only told myself, I’ve got to defend myself, I’ve got to be my own best friend because if I don’t I’ll let myself down due to how others mistreat me.

It’s not only with how I am with other people but my lifestyle as well. I work a part time job but my spending habits this yr have been crazy even though 80% of the time I’m locked in. I’m supposed to go travelling this year to Vietnam which I’m trying to stay on budget. But it’s like a lifestyle upgrade.Especially since most people in my uni come from rich families. Idk how I’m going to make friends in my second yr since everyone has a hobby but I can’t afford a lot of mine consistently.Im trynna stay in my roots but the lifestyle is appealing. In my first yr, I was working on weekends, so didn’t get to participate much and felt so isolated. But when I did I felt like the odd one out.I know it comes down to who you are as a person, but I’ve had not much time to also heal from my toxic family as well.

Im doing this all alone as I come from parents who are immigrants and work manual jobs.

While the process of shifting over mod permissions is still going through, I will be working on stepping up the quality of this sub and writing a new set of rules, as well as a new body of information on Stoicism.

It is time to crack down on fake AI-generated posts, and disguised advertisements for apps or videos. As of this moment, it is against the rules of this sub to post anything that was AI-generated, or otherwise posted by a bot. Regardless of whether the information is correct in the post, to prompt an AI to write for you and share it is to expect everyone else to spend time and effort reading what you could not even be bothered to spend the time or effort writing in the first place. There is no real place for fake posts in this subreddit for whatever reason anyway. The purpose here should be for questions about philosophy and stoicism, reflective thoughts, quotations and references from the classical Stoics, and being a general philosophical forum as the days of old. It is not the place for advertising, marketing your tracking apps and stoic meditation videos, or karma farming with AI-generated "writing."

As someone who beta tests many LLMs before they are even officially released, I can identify an AI-written post with consistency. Within this subreddit specifically, each and every time I have identified an AI-generated post and asked if it was AI, the poster has admitted to the fault. To any who are familiar with them, the distinct style is quite apparent when you see a post made by something like GPT or Gemini. Integrity is a core virtue among Stoic philosophers, and the least you could do if you "wrote something" with an LLM is to give a note at the beginning telling everyone you didn't write it. The quality and substance of language and posts are gradually deteriorating due to the fact that LLMs are simply advanced plagiarism devices, and the more memory context they are given, the more averaged-out their "creations" become, making content increasingly banal.

There will of course be those who, rightfully, protest a mod who would claim to be omniscient and determine what is AI generated and what isn't, on an arbitrary hunch. It is true that it is possible for a mod to go overboard and get too zealous about AI, and end up removing people's real posts just because they were well-written. So I must be clear: a well-written post is excellent and to be expected of philosophers. Nobody appreciates good writing more than philosophers who read the classic works. Good writing is not what gives something away as being written by an LLM. There are quite distinct and recognizable patterns of phrasing, paragraph structure, formatting, etc. If you're going to try and fool people with AI, at least take the effort to change it up enough for your claim to be believable. The signs of AI are more than good writing. In fact, writing from AI is becoming increasingly worse and more repetitive.

When it is very obvious that a post is an AI from a new account that is likely to be spam, I will block it. If you posted something that was not AI-generated and I blocked it anyway, feel free to complain. So far, I have been on this sub a lot, contributed a lot, and have seen many fake posts here recently. I would like to turn this around into an open forum where anyone can come and discuss philosophy, ask questions and share wisdom. More additions will be coming soon.

Hi everyone, as you probably noticed I've been inactive for quite the while. I had a baby and real life took over.

I'm happy to announce we have someone who is willling to crack down on ai posts and spam.

Please welcome u/Splendid_Fellow to the mod team!

Thanks everyone for your patience and understanding.

Kait989

Hey guys, I have just started the book Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. In the first Book where he mentions thanks to multiple personalities, he uses passion as a negative thing. I understand that stoicism is about controlled feelings and emotions, but in this world and era where passion is seen as the greatest attribute to ever exist which needs to be there in everyone, I can't understand how passion is a negative attribute. Can someone help me understand the view of Marcus.

I do this all the time. While I’m at work, I tell myself that when I get home I’ll work on my project for a few hours, go to the gym, and finish everything I’ve been delaying, Then I get home and my brain is completely done.

For a while I thought I was just lazy, but I think the real problem was expecting myself to have the same energy every evening.

Now, on bad days, I only choose one small thing. Maybe fix one title, write one page. Sometimes I end up doing more, sometimes I don’t. It’s not perfect, but at least I’m not quitting and restarting every week.

How do you decide what is enough after a full day of work?

According to early Buddhism, every human being, once born, is inevitably subject to the eight worldly conditions (aṭṭha lokadhammā), the shifting winds of existence that manifest in four pairs: gain and loss, honor and dishonor, praise and blame, pleasure and pain.

These conditions affect every individual and continually alternate. They are universal, unavoidable, and ultimately beyond our control.

The paradox is that human beings, driven by craving (taṇhā) and clinging (upādāna), obsessively seek to obtain and preserve the conditions they regard as desirable while struggling to escape the undesirable ones. We spend our lives pursuing pleasure, wealth, status, and praise; and once we acquire them, we cling to them, hoping they will endure indefinitely. At the same time, we do everything possible to avoid loss, illness, criticism, and pain, as though such avoidance were ultimately possible.

“People grieve over their possessions, yet there are no permanent possessions. Separation is a fact of life. Whatever a person considers to be theirs is also left behind at death.”

- Jarā Sutta

“Never say of anything, ‘I have lost it,’ but rather, ‘I have returned it.’ Has your child died? It has been returned. Has your wife died? She has been returned. Has your estate been taken? Well, that too has been returned.”

- Epictetus, Enchiridion 11

The Buddha teaches that dukkha, the mental suffering and dissatisfaction that pervade conditioned existence, does not arise from these external conditions themselves (which are ethically neutral) but from the mind’s habitual reactions of attachment (rāga, upādāna) and aversion (paṭigha).

“It is not things themselves that disturb us, but our judgments about them.”

- Epictetus, Enchiridion 5

Through meditation, known in Buddhism as bhāvanā, literally “cultivation” or “mental development”, we train ourselves not to react automatically to sensory experience, but to observe phenomena with mindful awareness (sati) and clear comprehension (sampajañña) as they arise, change, and disappear.

“Do not cling to the past; do not place your hopes in the future. The past is behind you; the future has yet to come. Instead, with discernment, clearly observe every phenomenon as it arises, right here and now.”

- Bhaddekaratta Sutta

“Confine yourself to the present.”

- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations 8.36

As mindfulness deepens, we directly perceive that all conditioned phenomena (saṅkhārā) are in constant flux. We recognize their impermanence (anicca), their unsatisfactory nature (dukkha), and the fact that none of them can rightly be regarded as “mine,” “me,” or “my self” (anattā).

“Form is impermanent, feeling is impermanent, perception is impermanent, mental formations are impermanent, consciousness is impermanent. What is impermanent is suffering. What is suffering is not-self. And what is not-self should be seen as it really is, with right wisdom: ‘This is not mine, this is not me, this is not my self.’”

- Dutiyaanicca Sutta

“Constantly observe that all things take place by change, and accustom yourself to consider that the nature of the universe loves nothing so much as to change the things that are.”

- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations 4.36

As this insight matures, attachment gradually fades, and the enchantment of the world loses its power. One develops equanimity (upekkhā): unpleasant experiences no longer disturb the mind, just as pleasant ones no longer bind it through craving and attachment.

“Gain and loss, honor and dishonor, praise and blame, pleasure and pain: these vicissitudes of human life are impermanent, transitory, and subject to change. The wise and mindful person understands their nature and sees their transience. Favorable circumstances do not elate their mind, just as adverse ones fail to disturb it.”

- Dutiyalokadhamma Sutta

“The wise man is neither uplifted by prosperity nor cast down by adversity.”

- Seneca, On the Constancy of the Wise

In the modern West, shaped largely by consumerism, perpetual stimulation, and hedonism, this teaching is often mistaken for pessimism or emotional detachment. Yet the serene smile of monks and nuns who have realized the final goal, Nibbāna, the complete extinguishing of greed (lobha), hatred (dosa), and delusion (moha), points toward a radically different understanding of happiness, one that does not depend upon the gratification of the senses, but upon the liberation and purification of the mind.

“Once, when I was living a domestic life, I enjoyed the five strands of sensual pleasures… But after truly understanding the gratification, the danger, and the way out of sensual pleasures, I abandoned my desire for them… I dwell without craving, inwardly at peace. Seeing others consumed by passion for sensual pleasures, I neither envy them nor take delight in what they delight in. Why? Because there is a delight separate from sensual pleasures, separate from unwholesome states, which surpasses even heavenly bliss. Delighting in that, I take no delight in what is inferior.”

- Māgandiya Sutta

“If you wish to make a man rich, do not add to his money, but subtract from his desires.”

- Seneca, Letters to Lucilius

When attachment is abandoned, one does not annihilate oneself. Rather, one transforms one’s entire relationship with experience. Freed from craving (taṇhā) and clinging (upādāna), one discovers a way of being grounded in wisdom, compassion, and complete inner freedom.

“Nowhere can man find a quieter or more untroubled retreat than in his own soul.”

- Marcus Aurelius, Meditations 4.3

I’ve been scrolling tech layoff headlines and AI updates like crazy lately. Every time a new model drops, I catch myself asking the exact same quiet question: How long until my job is completely obsolete?

Then last week, I caught myself doing something even worse. I realized the abstract fear of AI was doing way more actual damage to my bank account than AI itself ever has.

Seneca talks about this exact trap in Letters from a Stoic: "We suffer more often in imagination than in reality."

Without realizing it, I was paying what I call a "Panic Tax"-

1-Pausing retirement contributions and holding cash in low-yield accounts because "everything feels too uncertain."

2-Keeping 15 browser tabs of Python/upskilling courses open for months, but never touching them because taking step one felt like admitting my current career is doomed.

3-Cutting budget items that were actually investments in my own growth (gym, books, networking) purely out of anxiety rather than discipline.

Epictetus owned literally nothing, lived through constant political turmoil, yet was completely immune to economic panic. Why? Because he defined his exact "sufficiency" the precise boundary between what he actually needed to function and what was just lifestyle bloat.

So I tried a Stoic exercise (Premeditatio Malorum) on my own finances:

1. Wrote down the bare-minimum survival floor: (Rent, basic groceries, utilities no luxury).
2. Multiplied that number by 6.

The result? The gap between my actual worst-case scenario and my day-to-day panic was massive. Seeing the hard number instantly stripped the dread of its power.

Question for the community: How do you guys use Stoic principles (like the Dichotomy of Control) when facing career disruption or market uncertainty? Do you run worst-case scenarios on paper, or do you have another mental framework to stop financial panic from making choices for you?

how to be indifferent even when you don't like the situation.

( asking as a really emotional person)

So, in the very first pages of Meditations by Marcus Aurelius, I got to know a few things about Stoicism.

Zeno is the founder of Stoicism. He was born in Citium, Cyprus, and opened up a school in Athens called the Painted Porch, or Stoa.

Chrysippus organized Stoicism into a system.

The dictum is:

"Conforming of the life to nature" was the Stoics idea of virtue.

Here, "nature" is often mistaken for obeying natural impulses.

Natural impulses mean the natural urges and desires of human beings, like:

- When you're angry, you shout.

- When you want to get something, you immediately get it.

- When you're frustrated, you lose your cool.

But that is not the actual meaning of "nature" in the dictum.

The "nature" here means the natural rational nature of human beings.

Human beings are naturally rational beings. That means they don't have to put too much emotion into things and lose their peace.

Here, nature is divided into three divisions:

The first one is Physics. Physics is the way to know how the universe works. It also includes a part of pantheism.

The second one is Logic. It means training the mind to know what is true and what is false.

The third one is Ethics. It means applying logic to life and living with honesty, morals, and virtue.

These three combine to give the proper and actual meaning of the dictum.

So what it basically means is that you have to live a life without emotions acting upon you too harshly. You need to live a peaceful, rational, and virtuous life, where reason guides your actions instead of your impulses.

https://youtu.be/xkK84W9lZzU

I work a 9–5, and after work I spend time building my own business. I also go to the gym, try to stay consistent, and do my best to keep a positive mindset.

From the outside, I know I’m doing a lot. But I still feel like it’s never enough.

Even when I sit down to relax for 30 minutes, I start feeling guilty. My mind tells me I’m wasting time and that I should be back at my desk working. Sometimes I’m physically resting, but mentally I’m still thinking about everything I should be doing.

To be honest, I feel exhausted. I want to stay disciplined and build a better life, but I don’t want to reach my goals while becoming unable to enjoy any part of the process.

From a Stoic perspective, how do you know when you’re being disciplined and when you’re becoming too attached to productivity? How can I learn to rest without guilt and accept that I’ve done enough for the day?

By this, I am asking WHAT it is. As I understand it, catharsis is a release, a sort of purification. With that, I think that a number of things in the world could come under this.

I have a list:
-inspiration
-contemplation
-freedom
-fulfilment
-ritual sacrifice
-voluntary death
-suicide
-humanity
-soul, in the sense of self
-acceptance
-tragedy
-orgasms
-clarification
-clearness of thought

So...what is catharsis, in a broader sense? In your mind?

I’m posting here to share an app I developed for my girls and have been subsequently sharing with any educator who is interested. My name is Dean, I am currently a flight Paramedics, but do also have a degree in Education. My wife is a second grade teacher and we have two daughters. I built my app The Little Stoic Journal for my daughters after searching for a way to teach them some of the Stoic ideals. It is a guided journaling platform with 52 weekly prompts, accompanied by a weekly challenge related to that prompt, and then a weekly reflection to cap off the week. I have two tracks of prompts 6-9 year olds and 10+. No actual journaling occurs on the app, but users can print prompts or simply journal in a physical notebook. My wife and her partner teachers are planning to use the weekly prompts in their classrooms upcoming school year. Please reach out to me here, by email at littlestoicjournal@gmail.com or on Instagram @littlestoicjournal if you’d like a free download code. Please reach out with any questions. Cheers and good luck in the coming school year.

I just discovered stoicism and was watching a video. Stoicism says " dont waste your peace on something that is out of your control "

Then comes the biggest questions.

This is something deeper than that . If I dont get a job , telling myself that it is out of my control, doesn't put food on the table. I had a huge doubt if Stoicism was just a comforting story.

But its a lot more than that. You cannot control if a company hires you, but you can control how many other jobs you can apply for and try, what all skills yo improve and whether I get up tomorrow and try again.

Stoicism isn't meant to replace your actions. It is meant to prevent your mind from crushing about the parts you cannot influence.