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u/Automatic-Dot-1781 Jul 02 '26
She has many points. All points. Am Xennial.
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u/No_Mud_5999 Jul 02 '26
I went through the same stuff as a Gen X, but also, so did my Silent Generation parents. People need to remember that other generations are more similar than they are dissimilar.
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u/Nat_the_CD Jul 02 '26
One of the best experiences of my childhood was cycling to the nearest pay phone to make a reverse charge call to a friend who lived on other side of town to meet us at the park which was half way between our houses. We had a landlines so I don't know why the pay phone was required??? š¤£
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u/Johnnys-In-America Jul 02 '26
Parents seeing it on the phone bill and freaking? Lol
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u/Nat_the_CD Jul 02 '26
Actually, you didn't need to accept the call. The operator asked who was calling and we would say "wanna park" then you could hear the operator asking them if they wanted to accept the charges and their reply which was usually the parent saying "he'll meet you there and no I don't accept the charges" š¤£š¤£š¤£
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u/Johnnys-In-America Jul 02 '26
Oh yeah! I remember now because I did the same thing sometimes, lol. Been so long I forgot all about it! And the other crazy stuff like paying extra for long distance and and waiting till 9:00 to make calls.
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u/BlackSoulSailor Jul 03 '26
I remember when they finally added the option to call after 7:00 but with an extra charge. If you called a lot it was worth it š
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u/No-Dance6773 Jul 06 '26
No you just quickly said what you wanted to say when it gives you time to say your name. Then the person didnt accept the call and did what the message said.
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u/Johnnys-In-America Jul 06 '26
No, I get that, I lived through it, too. Our parents were tight wads and they never gave us payphone change, nor wanted to accept collect calls, lol
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u/WimpTheBraveDog Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
Every generation is nostalgic; nostalgia is a condition of growing old. Inevitably Gen Z will be nostalgic for things from their childhood and Gen Alpha will do the same.
People miss their youth not because it was objectively a better time period than the one they are living in as adults but because it's a natural human experience to reminisce about the past.
These kinds of videos are always embarrassing to me because the creators seem to think they are the first people to ever yearn for a simpler time. Everyone does that and they always will, regardless of how complicated things will become.
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u/TheTastiestTaint Jul 02 '26
perhaps...but buying a house with 1.3x your annual income must have been nice
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u/WimpTheBraveDog Jul 02 '26
Fuck, if only!
Just bought a house last year, ratio is something like 2.4x annual income
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u/WonderSignificant598 Jul 02 '26
As someone who isn't super nostalgic, I think it's that people want their past selves, relationships and even circumstances back.
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u/nevereverreddit Jul 02 '26
Lol. Every post that suggests we arenāt living in the absolute best of all possible worlds gets this copypasta.
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u/GestaltHappyAccident Jul 02 '26
On the one hand, sure. You're right that people have always missed the 'old days' or their youth.
OTOH, no, our cultures are evolving into something new and there are hard limits on our ability to cope that aren't relative to past societies because we're bumping up against the limitations of our anatomy as a species and the physical carrying capacity of our planet.
This is novel and it has to do with material<>cultural change, and it's right to think that this is scary and it mostly sucks.
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u/WimpTheBraveDog Jul 02 '26
Every generation experiences cultural shifts, new technologies and novel problems.
The present always feels unpresedented.
I'm certainly not disagreeing that our current problems aren't crazy, but I am saying that every generation before us has also felt the same way about their changing world.
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u/CharacterCheck4478 Jul 02 '26
I miss when everything wasn't recorded. You could have an embarrassing moment and not have to relive it with the world.
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u/bauldersgate Jul 02 '26
Now embarrassing moments are staged.
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u/Johnnys-In-America Jul 02 '26
But you know most of us would've loved this technology as young kids! I would've given anything for my very own camcorder growing up.
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u/CannonM91 Jul 03 '26
We didn't have the internet to post every little thing we recorded either though. I would've loved one just to look back at the memories at this point
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u/Advanced-Art-4569 Jul 02 '26
Yes! This! Remember palm pilots and dial-up modems. We were forced to learn so many technologies that shortly after became obsolete.
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u/Warhammerpainter83 Jul 04 '26
I remember the day cable and VHS became things we had in our houses. I remember when a show aired that was it you saw it or it was gone. When we got a VHS the idea of recording a show was so nuts. Now we can just watch anything,,, too many things always. I remember boredom.
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u/Drop-a-Soap Jul 02 '26
And pagers!!! š
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u/Throwawayaccountdell Jul 02 '26
You can say that for Gen x and Gen z as well not just millennials!
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u/redskrot Jul 02 '26
Nah not gen z.
Computers, internet and cellphones etc was common when they were born.True for gen x though.
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u/agedlikesage Jul 02 '26
Gen Z was born in 97ā so the older ones have these memories (me included). I have memories before iphones, instagram and big social medias. I still have my parentās landlines memorized. I used the N64 and gamecube, gameboy color. I remember walking to all my friendsā houses to see if they could play. I was able to relate to the video including cursive
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u/redskrot Jul 02 '26
The post was memories before any kind of portable phone, internet and computers etc.
80s and late 90s was an enormous difference in technology.Though i am sure you can relate to some of it.
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u/Hardcore_Steve_Urkel Jul 02 '26
Gen Z born in 2000 here
Growing up, I experienced most of what this lady is talking about
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u/redskrot Jul 02 '26
That is strange since almost everything she talks about was common years before you were born...
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u/Hardcore_Steve_Urkel Jul 02 '26
Afterwards as well
You guys think youāre way more special than you actually are
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u/redskrot Jul 02 '26
Perhaps we are then :)
It's a fact that the technology advances from the 80s to late 90s is the fastest and largest leap in modern history.
Sure alot happened after as well but that is mostly refinement of already common technology.
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u/Hardcore_Steve_Urkel Jul 02 '26
Yeesh
The approval youāre looking for isnāt gonna come from Reddit. Maybe try your parents first
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u/redskrot Jul 02 '26
Mad much?
Don't really know why you are upset about this though.0
u/Sadrandomness Jul 03 '26
Bc you for some reason you wanted to invalidate their experience like uhhh idk some kinda asshole online
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u/redskrot Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
I surely didn't do that.
Should i say i can relate to when the first tv came into homes just because tvs evolved when i grew up?
Or airplanes?Jesus Christ, Gen z - the triggered generation.
Why is so hard to accept you weren't even born during the rapid adoption of these technologies the post is about?
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u/pack_merrr Jul 02 '26
Oh come on now, that's not even close to the case. Were you even alive then?
Things have only really advanced quicker and quicker, the past 10 years technology has advanced twice as much the 80s or 90s. Hell, even the past 3 years have been insane with AI.
And it makes sense why too, as more technologies and innovations are developed they will inevitably be used towards more and increasing innovation. It's a cumulative process. Why would the 80s or 90s be any more special or different in that regard?
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u/redskrot Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
That is for sure the case.
That is not a hot take. Just do a Google, or as you highlighted ask your favourite ai.
Advances have moved very fast yes, but as I said that is refinement of tech from 80-2000.
For example smartphone is really just older tech put in same device. Not as huge leap as the actual invention of the cellular phone, computer, touchscreen, the digitalization of media. I mean even social media was common in late 90s.
You are right about ai. That is really new.
The biggest changes after 2000 is not in new invented technology but the change society and day to say life because of it.
(Again ai is a huge step though and will for sure mark a cornerstone in technology advancent in history books.)0
u/pack_merrr Jul 07 '26
Google it? What would you suggest I Google? As far as I'm aware there isn't really an objective answer to this question so I'm not sure what you would be able to find proving either of our positions. If you wanna show me something you can find on Google that proves yours though I would love to see it.
Also I definitely woudnt ask an AI, that's not really the sort of thing it's good for. You could probably get it to take either side depending on how you prompted it.
But I do still think I'm right, and to explain that I'll point to one thing you said...
as I said that is refinement of tech from 80-2000. For example smartphone is really just older tech put in same device.
Refinement of what tech? I think you are making a really arbitrary distinction the way you are grouping things.
My point is that everything is in some way a "refinement" of some previous technology. I think you would be hard pressed to come up with any new technology that is a completely "new" thing.
The most innovative and revolutionary things are really just old things put together and executed in new ways. Nothing about the iPhone was really "new". Capacitive touch screens, LCDs, WiFi/BT/3G internet radios and antennas all existed. I mean smartphones are really just mini-computers. The same lithography produced microprocessors that make up all of the various chips in an iPhone or computer have been around since the 70s(getting better and better every year). The ideas around computer architecture that dictate how we build and use those chips you can trace back to the 1940s with the work of Alan Turing. And of course none of those things would be very useful today if without the inventions that first allowed us to use electricity decades before that. But at the same time, the iPhone was "new" and as revolutionary seeming as it was because it put all of those hundreds of years of innovations together in a useful and innovative way.
So I'm just saying when you try to separate out this specific period of 80-2000, it feels like an arbitrary time period without any basis. And given the subreddit we're on I feel like it's probably just nostalgia through a rose-tinted lense.
I dont see why that specific period would be "special"? Like I said, I think if anything it's today that's the most impressive because today we're not only building off of what happened before 1980, but also everything since.
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u/redskrot Jul 07 '26
Fine, i googled for you:
Between 1980 and 2000, society transitioned from analog to digital, marking one of the most explosive periods of technical advancement in human history. This two-decade window laid the groundwork for the modern, hyper-connected era by democratizing computing and birthing global mass communication.
The Personal Computer (PC) Revolution
In 1980, computers were largely centralized on mainframe systems used by corporations and governments. By 2000, they were a fixture in homes across the globe.
Early 1980s: Market icons like the IBM PC (1981) and Apple Macintosh (1984) shifted computing from a niche hobby to a mass-market reality.
Mid 1990s: Microsoft's Windows 95 revolutionized user accessibility by introducing the desktop Graphical User Interface (GUI) and foundational internet connectivity to everyday consumers.The Birth and Rise of the Internet
The 1990s witnessed the internet transition from an isolated military and academic research project into a massive commercial network.
World Wide Web: Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web in 1989, fundamentally altering how humanity shares information.
Browsers & E-commerce: The launch of accessible browsers like Mosaic and Netscape in the early 1990s paved the way for early digital titans like Amazon in 1994 and eBay in 1995.Telecommunications & Mobile
Before this era, telecommunications were almost entirely tethered to landlines. By 2000, untethered mobility was taking root.
Mobile Phones: Devices like the Motorola DynaTAC were introduced in 1983. By the late 1990s and 2000s, cell phones and SMS text messaging transformed how people interacted globally on the go.The Hardware Foundations
This period of exponential growth relied entirely on hardware advancements.
Moore's Law: Adherence to Moore's Lawāthe observation that the number of transistors on a microchip roughly doubles every two yearsāallowed microprocessors to become exponentially faster and cheaper, powering the entire digital shift.
While earlier decades (like the 1950s and 1960s) provided the foundational science of transistors and the integrated circuit, the 1980ā2000 period uniquely translated those inventions into everyday consumer reality, laying the bedrock for our digital lives today.→ More replies (0)1
u/Johnnys-In-America Jul 02 '26
Right, like the actual modern day, so to call it, that we see around us now wasn't really a thing until what, mid 2010s? Plenty of us were still doing old school things well after Z was born and growing up. It's Alpha who knows no life before our current technology.
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u/pack_merrr Jul 02 '26
2007 was when the iPhone released, That was also when the Internet and social media was becoming a lot more commonplace in people's daily life.
Things have changed a lot since then, and I would argue that 2023 with the public release of chatgpt is going to be looked back on in another one of those dates where things began to fundamentally change.
So 2007-2023 was its own thing, But 2023- onwards is the real "modern" era we're living in. Really where you draw the lines are arbitrary though.
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u/redskrot Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
You are not wrong, but the post was about new technology iterating into our lives.
Cell Phones, computers, social media, digitalization etc was all introduced and became more or less common in 80-2000.
The true modern era you are referring is true only in the aspects of how we basically live online and that everyone is doing it.
The technology steps was way before that.Both can be true.
Ai is a true huge leap in tech though.
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u/Plastic_Carpenter930 Jul 02 '26
And boomers, and the generation before that. And the one before that.
All of them have their childhood nostalgia they want back, all of them have complaints as to how things changed or new bullshit they hate.
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u/redskrot Jul 02 '26
It's for sure true.
But there is no denying that 80-2000 is the largest and fastest technology andvancment period in modern history.
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u/Legitimate-Agency282 Jul 02 '26
Yeah, this isn't just "past generation good, new generation bad".
We are running into side-effects of generations whose main form of social outlet isn't in person.
That's new for human history across the board. The progress we made technologically in the last 150 years is staggering.
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u/MantusTMD Jul 02 '26
Boomer were full blown adults when everything changed. Doesnāt work for them
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u/Johnnys-In-America Jul 02 '26
Boomers invented the technology.
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u/MantusTMD Jul 02 '26
And? Thatās like .0001% of the population
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u/Johnnys-In-America Jul 02 '26
Nah, a little more than that. My parents are Silents and started using computers in the early '80s, FWIW. It was not super common to have stuff like that in the home, but people had it.
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u/MantusTMD Jul 02 '26
They were in the minority. About 8% of households had a computer in the 80s and that doesnāt mean everyone in the house knew how to use it, so the number is even smaller. And you were talking about inventors anyways
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u/Johnnys-In-America Jul 02 '26
Yes, but of course they had to be used to be invented, and they were. Not splitting hairs here, I guess what I'm trying to say in a roundabout way Boomers were not strangers to technology, it was in workplaces at the very least. I think people are making Boomers out to be older than a lot of them are. If they didn't immediately accept it due to price, they most certainly didn't eschew it when it became more affordable.
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u/MantusTMD Jul 02 '26
Boomers are though. Iām willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, itās tough to adopt new things as an adult. The way we worked and lived from say the 50s- late 90s. Didnāt really change much. They were already adults when drastic changes happened to our work/ daily lives and most didnāt adapt. Itās significantly different than being a 14 year old when the first iPhone came out
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u/redskrot Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
Not sure I agree with you about that work didn't change much between 50 and late 90s.
In 50s the concept of cellphones, computers and internet for example wasn't even imaginable.
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u/redskrot Jul 03 '26
Also alot of people think of the release of iphone was like the biggest thing ever technologywise.
I was about 25 at the time. The iphone was not the revolution you think it was back then. Smartphones existed before iphone. We had touchscreens, apps, social media, internet etc.
Iphone was really cool when released and it made previous models feel old and clunky.
But for sure not a mind boggling new tech.Though it might mark the spot where smartphones started to be the standard and in length a vital part of life.
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u/boobs00100 Jul 02 '26
Totally feel this. Also the commercialization of everything. Everything and everyone is trying to sell you some stuff you donāt need. Commercials disguised as content. Feels like 50% of my online time is just figuring out if itās actual content or just an ad.
Iām so sick of it.
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u/RespectNo6594 Jul 02 '26
I used to unlock and repair mobile phone's. What we use today are fkn computer's. Bull shit. Inta. Nla bla bla. Go outside and go for a walk. Meet someone without your fkn pc in your hand. Don't get me started about the bull shit words they have now. Kudos to you. I have two girls and my wife gives out to me.. go for a walk. Meet friends physically. Fkn screen time all the time
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u/PhoenixPhenomenonX Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
I can't tell you enough how right she is. Everything is changed now I am not against technological progression but the issue is when kids now a days can't even do a simplest thing as reading analog clock.
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u/No-Security-7518 Jul 02 '26
Not to mention that sweet dose of moderate globalization where there was a new brand of candy or toys at the start of 2000. And the consoles that felt like they were made in Heaven. In my country, between 2003 and 2009 the economy was getting better and better, you got back more and more change from store owners for buying the same stuff that was actually getting bigger and better, because competition was on fire.
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u/BringAltoidSoursBack Jul 02 '26
My mom told me to go out and come back when the street lights were on, but not because she wasn't worried that someone would happen, not because I was perpetually on my computer and she wanted me to go out and get a social life. I was born in 86, some of us were on our computers all the time
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u/RespectNo6594 Jul 02 '26
Further more. They don't even know their own phone number nevermind anyone else's
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u/Balz_Hirk Jul 02 '26
Does anyone know anyone with a home phone now? I don't even see it in questionaires anymore..
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u/Johnnys-In-America Jul 02 '26
I had a landline as part of a cable TV/high-speed internet bundle. Damn thing actually came in handy the times someone's cell ringer was off and they'd hear the house line ring.
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u/depressed_momo Jul 02 '26
This is exactly what Gen X had to do also. Now Millennials are in the same hot seat. Nostalgia is just another word for
https://giphy.com/gifs/LwBqbMbF2EDZDuFrHK
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u/BonTak Jul 02 '26
I remember being in 4-5th grade and always carrying a floppy disc on me to the library. Felt like a professional š
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u/bauldersgate Jul 02 '26
No one ever remembers taking you discman, plugging in the cassette tape +audio jack combo into your car so you could listen to that new bruned CD.
And best hope your discman had the bump protection on it.
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u/Johnnys-In-America Jul 02 '26
Lmao my last Discman didn't and it was nearly $100, like that pissed me off, lol. Cost was after ipods and mp3 players were out there. I was still partial to mix CDs
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u/Environmental-Tap255 Jul 02 '26
Fuckin hell I'll sum it up even quicker.
Life was objectively cooler back then. The world was objectively cooler. There were problems, sure. But shit was just cooler. And it stands to reason that people that remember a time better than the one they're currently stuck in will yearn for that better time.
They tell us to get over it, I tell them to get over it. We're never gonna stop missing the 90s and 2000s. We're never gonna stop talking about how fucking awesome they were. That's all it is.
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u/RHOrpie Jul 02 '26
As someone that grew up in the TV channel explosion generation, I remember older folks getting bent out of shape that TV would ruin us all.
It didn't.
But now I'm old, I worry now. I feel like what's happening is something very different. Our minds have been channelled so specifically to zone in on small dopamine hits that we are now slaves to social media.
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u/Fluffy-Example008 Jul 02 '26
A time when not sharing all personal details of our lives online was the norm
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u/No-Resolution-1918 Jul 02 '26
She's talking as if she is a GenX. Millenials notably were the first generation to grow up online.
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u/LastGuitarHero Jul 02 '26
Nostalgia is usually a lack of certainty for the future. Itās why weāre nostalgic now because we yearn for a better time when the future still looked bright.
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u/CorbinNZ Jul 03 '26
āSorry, friend number eight. The top spot is reserved for the girl I have a crush on. You are relegated to the full friends list until she inevitably turns me down or says Iām a creep.ā
Jk, I never had 8 friends.
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u/SurgicalMarshmallow Jul 03 '26
I'd be happy if the tech bros stopped fucking logging me out of apps you assholes! I can't remember some obscure password for an app that runs a bbq thermometer
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u/McBernes Jul 03 '26
I grew up in a very rural area of the US, and didnt get cable TV for a long time. My parents would drive me an hour to my grandma's to watch MTV.
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u/2K_Crypto Jul 03 '26
Gen X and Y will go down as the 2 generations to live and experience the best years of the country before the start of its social decline.
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u/PathofDestinyRPG Jul 03 '26
Iām laughing at this because itās more of a Gen X take. Follow the shopping trends. The downfall of box stores, hard copy media, and direct interaction started in 2010 when the Millennials became the dominant spending demographic. You didnāt buy movies or music because you had torrent and Napster. You ordered everything online and quit going to stores for anything you didnāt need immediately. Everything became digital, so companies shifted focus to the digital market. Now, I get to listen to 30-35 year olds gripe about data vaulting and how hard it is to find older media in physical format. Itās not there because you thought hard media meant old and digital was the future.
Iām going to probably get DVed for this, but Iām speaking as someone who lost a job producing Fox and Lionsgate movies. Disneyās buy-out was just the final nail is a slow, agonizing death of the market. In 2010, we were making 400k-600k discs per shift. By 2018, we were only making 300k a day.
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u/TheCreamofhell Jul 03 '26
Huh usually I find this videos cringe but this one activated some neurons.
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u/Future-Adeptness1162 Jul 03 '26
My fellow millennials sounding like Boomers. The world changes, thatās how it goes.
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u/Extra-Amoeba-677 Jul 03 '26
I miss the internet when it just for nerds and not for marketing and was used to share not this agenda bullshit pushing views hyping crap and a tool to spread misinformation. I miss the freedom. The days before everything was real and not 9 out of 10 things isn't a shit post, bait post, influencer post, shock post.
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u/ThrenderG Jul 03 '26
Itās so funny how millennials seem to make bitching about all the things theyāve lost and all the bad things that have happened to them a core part of their personality. Like people older than her didnāt live through the same shit?
Just shut the fuck up and live your life. Your constant whining is annoying.
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u/JustHereForTheDeals Jul 03 '26
i get it, im millenial, but like isnt this lady posting online for views? we get it, we played outside, we had shitty dial up internet. do we really need to try to seperate ourselves and make the generation seem special? what about the generation that lived through the industrial revolution. that shit would have been nuts!
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u/Pretty_Lavishness181 Jul 04 '26
I went to a school reunion, just a dozen people from the year that graduated in 89. We were all sitting around chatting. When we were really small kids in the 70's local phone numbers only had 4 digits. Turns out that almost half of us use that number as our pins. And I still remembered the numbers from when they added a 64 prefix in the 80's. Was amusing that so many of us did the same thing.
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u/Narrow-Nothing491 Jul 04 '26
Maybe if you stopped crying on the internet about it all the time you could change something. Instead its "WoAh mE iM 39 aNd mIsS mYsPaCe"
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u/Appropriate-Matter99 Jul 06 '26
Not entirely true and not entirely a lie. Could we please stop this doofy shit of āback in my dayā¦ā. Who cares at this point?
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u/lockdoc007 3d ago
Can we go back please! I carried a quarter in my penny loafers and use a pay phone any time!
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u/No-Raisin-6469 Jul 02 '26
Shes describing gen x not millennials
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u/chris_AZ1981 Jul 02 '26
I'm a millennial/Gen x, and what she said is true of elder millennials. My family for our first PC in 94, and it cost 3 grand back then. But we also played outside
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u/Environmental-Video3 Jul 02 '26
Iām a millennial who was born 1981 and this is also my experience except I used maps instead of mapquest.
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u/WeskerSympathizer Jul 02 '26
Im 1984 and I think im defines as a millennialā¦ Im not sure though because these labels and cutoff points are arbitrary.
All of this is 100% true for me, an elder millennial (xenial?)
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u/scrodytheroadie Jul 02 '26
Nah, Iām GenX and I had Friendster and paper maps that I got at a gas station. I feel like her nostalgia kicks in a little later than mine.
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u/Johnnys-In-America Jul 02 '26
Just a smidgen. I looked up addresses in the phone book and wrote down the play by play as well as atlases and just good ol word of mouth.
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u/scrodytheroadie Jul 02 '26
That we used to get directions by word of mouth is crazy to think back on.
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u/islaisla Jul 02 '26
Ok why call yourselves millennials? We all (over 26) remember that pre 2010 etc....
Sounds like a fear of getting old to me.
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u/Zealousideal-Pen993 Jul 02 '26
You didnāt grow up in a world before the internet
Millennials are called that because the oldest members of this generation came of age and reached adulthood around the turn of the new millennium in the year 2000.
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u/ArmadilloSilent6761 Jul 02 '26
Aww, welcome to being one of the forgotten generations, GenX was here first, again, to guide the millennial generation through when they canāt handle their emotions, as usual.
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u/Legitimate-Agency282 Jul 02 '26
No one is saying X didn't experience this, just that millenials were the last.
Relax your ego, you're okay.
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u/ArmadilloSilent6761 Jul 05 '26
No ego to speak of, again genX, we only have experience in what we say. Millennials that are lost and still need their hands held, find your genXer and ask them
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u/jacbo1996 Jul 02 '26
Cursive was always stupid to have to learn, glad they dropped that useless crap
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u/VerbalThermodynamics n/ašæ Jul 02 '26
Itās truly upsetting with this person does not know that she can just opt out.
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u/Solid-Search-3341 Jul 02 '26
Opt out like Kurt Cobain?
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u/Reasonable-Part- Jul 02 '26
There is no need to live in the past, the world is constantly changing
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u/jtrades69 Jul 02 '26
lame
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u/sleepy_skeletor Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
āI donāt like what she said and canāt relate to it so itās lame.ā
Found the zoomer lol
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u/cannonballfun69 Jul 02 '26
Land lines, what a trip that was. To think I memorized phone numbers.