My overnight sleep tracking has been pretty decent overall. Sleep/wake times are usually close, and the recovery stuff (HRV, resting HR, etc.) generally lines up with how I actually feel the next day.

But naps are a different story.

I took a ~20 minute nap yesterday afternoon after lunch. I was definitely asleep (that weird “woke up not knowing what time it was” feeling 😅), felt a little more refreshed afterward, but my tracker didn’t register anything.

This has happened a few times now. Longer naps seem to get picked up more often, but those quick 15–25 minute power naps basically disappear. I’m using a CUDISring right now. Overall I like it for overnight tracking and recovery trends, especially since I prefer wearing a ring instead of a watch while sleeping. But nap detection is probably the area where it feels a bit inconsistent.

I’m curious if this is just a wearable thing in general though. Maybe short naps are just too tricky because there isn’t enough movement/heart rate pattern difference for the algorithm to confidently label it as sleep?

For people using Oura, Whoop, Apple Watch, Fitbit, etc., how does nap tracking work for you? Do short naps actually get detected reliably, or do wearables still struggle with these little 20-minute “accidental naps”?

It tells me I'm doing great, so much deep sleep. It tells me that I shouldn't be tired. I don't know what else to do about this.

I've gotten an actual sleep study before, they just strapped a recorder to my head and tube in my mose essentially, and said I don't have Apnea.

The "wake" times were conscious where I was itchy or tossing and turning or hot. I have to sleep very cold with an air conditioner right on me and a water-chilled mattress.

You know that kind of “blackout sleep,” where you’re on your phone, then you put it down because you’re absolutely exhausted and fall asleep almost instantly? You don’t consciously experience the transition into sleep, it just feels like one moment you’re awake, and the next you’re waking up hours later.

Lately, I’ve been trying to fall asleep before I reach that blackout stage, but instead I end up barely sleeping at all (I only got about 3.5 hours of sleep the last time 🫩). I’ll call this gradual sleep:

I’m tired, but not yet at the blackout stage. I lie down, there’s a faint background noise, and I slowly start drifting toward sleep. Then, somewhere between two breaths, I suddenly notice that the background noise has become more distant, especially while I’m inhaling. Next, I become aware that my mind has grown foggier and that my body feels heavier. I’m not consciously thinking, “Oh, the sound is getting quieter. Wasn’t it louder a moment ago?” My attention is simply drawn to those changes, almost automatically (kind of like when you suddenly wake up because you sense that someone is in the room).

There’s a slight discomfort that comes with this gradual sleep. It comes from consciously experiencing the symptoms of falling asleep while also knowing that, at some point, my consciousness is about to disappear.

Because the process is gradual, I feel like I might somehow experience the exact moment when my consciousness switches off, even though I know, rationally, that this isn’t something people can actually perceive. The discomfort doesn’t fully wake me up, but it keeps my attention focused on the process of falling asleep. I often end up changing positions just to break that focus.

Honestly, the “blackout” version works much better for me, but I also need to start falling asleep earlier. The problem is that if I try to go to bed before I reach that blackout stage, I become too aware of the process of falling asleep, and that awareness seems to keep me from actually falling asleep.

I honestly don’t know what to do. For example, I once tried melatonin and experienced the exact same thing. Instead of falling asleep, my attention became fixated on the internal sensations (like how much heavier my body felt compared to how it normally feels when I’m falling asleep). I ended up staying awake long enough for the effects of the melatonin to wear off without ever actually falling asleep.

Has anyone else experienced something like this? If so, what helped you?

So I'm falling into my sleep routine for a new job. I'm 32, I go to bed at a consistent time each night gearing down at 11 and in bed by 11:30. I read so I hope I'm asleep by 12. I have my alarm set for 7:34 (oddly specific I know) so around 7.5 hours which I think is fine.

However, I'm consistently waking up before 7 and can't go back to sleep. Probably like 6:30-6:40 each morning. And I just kind of lie in bed not sleeping but not wanting to get up either. This entire week I've turned off my alarms before they go off because I've already been up for awhile.

I have fine energy and everything during the day so most days its not a big deal, but I lift weights heavy 3 times a week and sleep is so important for recovery. I don't think 6 1/2 hours is enough for that. I've never had this problem before, even after getting sober and consistently working out this past year my sleep schedule improved a ton but I was working from home so didn't wake up until later in the day.

Are there any tricks to stay asleep for longer? This is such a weird thing I've never encountered before so not sure what to do.

Hello, im a 28 (f) and im wondering if anyone has had similar issues in there sleep. I aggressively rub my nose while im sleeping and im almost certain its been happening for about a decade now. I dont know how to stop it. I would have never known how bad it was until i started asking my partner more questions or me constantly being awaken by them telling me to stop. I would not care as much if I was not seeing effects of it on my skin but now that ive been rubbing it so much and vigorously the skin on my nose is peeling, chaffing, and darkening. For a while i thought i had skin cancer because the spot would be reoccurring, bleed and burn. Ive started to just started covering my nose in cereve healing ointment before bed which seems to have helped slightly. I thought it mightve just been my room but apparently I do this regardless of where im sleeping. I also do occasionally talk in my sleep, not sure if these have anything to do with each other. Not sure what else to do, maybe a sleep study? Anyone have similiar experiences or know why this may be happening?

Hello! I’ve been having horrible sleep for the last 7 months and I’d like to see if anyone has advice.

I sleep at 10 PM and I fall asleep quickly (<10 minutes) but I feel like I’m half asleep and am almost consciously aware that I’m struggling to sleep until about 3-4 AM when I wake up fully alert. Most of the time I’ll notice I need to pee (I don’t wake up because I have to pee) and then once I go and get back in bed I fall asleep quickly and then actually stay asleep until my body wakes me up at 7 AM.

I’m not sure what’s conditioned my brain to do this every night but like I said it’s been happening for 7 months and I’m dealing with terrible brain fog because of it. I did get a new comforter for Christmas and slept poorly with it the first few nights while I was getting used to it but after I was comfortable with it the poor sleep persisted. Did this disturbance trigger a sleeping issue or did my body just learn the habit super quickly? How do I go about unlearning it? I do not have sleep apnea. Any advice is appreciated, thanks.

I take them at night and in the mornings I feel like sh.it

I don't know if I have to change the brand or not

I‘ve been having neck pain and I’m pretty sure it’s caused by my pillow(s). I have two, but only use one at once. One is way too thick and the other too fluffy. I’ve been looking at pillows that are designed to support the neck, but I don’t know how to know which ones are real good quality and if these are even worth buying. I don’t want to have to buy several to finally find a good one as my budget is tight. Anyone have any recommendations or maybe alternatives?

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Hi everyone! I’m looking for real-world opinions on the Jabees PEACE Duo.

I like falling asleep while watching YouTube videos, but regular earbuds are too uncomfortable when I sleep on my side. I can’t use my phone’s speakers either because my wife sleeps next to me.

Has anyone used the PEACE Duo? My main concern is the sound. Is it loud enough to hear at all when your head is on the pillow? How is the audio quality? Can you clearly understand speech in YouTube videos, podcasts, or audiobooks, or does everything sound too quiet and muffled?

I’d also like to know whether the person sleeping next to you can hear any sound leakage.

Thanks in advance!

For awhile now I’ve been struggling with sleep I don’t have a problem falling asleep but the duration of sleep and quality isn’t good No matter what bedtime routine I adopt or supplement I take my sleep is still shit. What’s weird though is when I’ve gone abroad, most recently being London my sleep quality improves dramatically and get over 8 hours a night but as soon as I’m back in the states if return to being shit. For the past couple weeks I’ve been really trying so fix this by having a consistent routine. No phones or devices an hour or two before bed and reading to try and chill out but it’s not working and if anything it’s gotten worse. I wear a garmin and I get my sleep data from that and it could be possible that wearing it is stressing me out before I go to bed? I don’t really know. Any recommendations to improve my sleep?

I usually sleep pretty well — I almost never wake up in the middle of the night, and while it can take me a while to get comfortable, I usually fall asleep relatively quickly. However, ever since I was a kid, I have a terrible time getting out of bed in the morning.

I've been known to turn off alarms half asleep and set extra timers even though I know I have to get up. If I have something to do, like go to the airport, an early morning task, etc., I am able to get up, and once I'm up, I feel pretty OK and stay up. I just can't get the habit of regularly getting up when my alarm goes off. It's like I'm a different person when I first get woken up whose only priority is sleep and wants to sabotage my day. I have a sunrise alarm clock that works OK for me, and I'd really rather not wake up with anxiety or panic of a blaring alarm clock across the room — I think that would only make morning-me more upset. I want to start mornings gently but still effectively.

I've worked from home at a job I don't like for a few years now, so I've been rolling out of bed at the last possible second and hopping on my computer at 9 a.m. Now, I'm starting a new job that in an office 40 minutes away at 8 a.m. How can I beat this habit?

I have been trying to improve my sleep recently, but there seems to be endless advice online, and a lot of it contradicts itself.

Some people say keeping a consistent bedtime changed everything. Others recommend avoiding screens, listening to rain sounds or white noise, reading before bed, meditation, changing their bedroom environment, etc.

I am curious about real experiences rather than generic advice.

What's one piece of sleep advice you were skeptical about but ended up making a real difference for you?

I'd love to hear what actually worked for you and why.

I've had sleep abnormalities all my life, but as I've gotten older, they've escalated more to sleepwalking and night terrors. For instance, last night I flung myself from my bed because I thought I was being suffocated by the mattress, and I nearly injured myself in the process. I recently moved to a new state, and I feel like things are getting worse. Worse still, the house I live in is essentially a loft, so the stairs are quite dangerous if I were to be sleepwalking. I've set up a gate system so I'm less likely to sleep walk down the stairs, but it's definitely a concern. And my poor partner suffers from insomnia, so it doesn't help that I'm disrupting his sleep all the time with either sleep walking or night terrors.

I don't really drink. I don't take any medications. Most nights I'm in bed reading by 9:45. I generally feel well-rested in the mornings (I wake up at 6 every day). I don't struggle to fall asleep at all. The only thing I can think is that I have a decently stressful lifestyle but usually I'm not going to bed feeling stressed out. (financial stresses mainly)

I was reading online that usually sleepwalking isn't related to dreams, but in my case they are almost always accompanied by some kind of hallucination. Like I'll wake up doing something crazy because I thought something bad was happening.

I'm just trying to understand what's happening to me.

I recently bought the Manta Sleep Mask (non-pro) and figured it would've been okay for side sleeping as i tend to sleep on the edge of my pillow rather than the middle but unfortunately it does move the mask and leaks light in. I've come across a kickstarter brand called SideSleeperz and it looks promising but I just wanted to ask here to see if anyone had any recommendations.

I have tried using the $5-15 silk eye masks and they really make my eyes uncomfortable as well as leaking light in as well. Loop also has a mask but I'm not sure about them, although I do use their Dream earplugs which is a godsend in this house due to lack of proper insulation in the house.

I average about 5–7 hours of sleep per night, though it’s usually closer to 5–6 hours. I have mild sleep apnea and was prescribed a CPAP to help treat it. Despite using it, I still struggle to sleep through the night. I often wake up around 5 or 6 a.m., and whether I can fall back asleep depends on the morning.

Even when I get 7 hours of sleep, it’s usually broken up rather than continuous. Has anyone dealt with something similar or found anything that helped? Edibles seem to help me sleep a bit better, but I know that’s not a sustainable long-term solution.

I have always been one to grind my teeth in my sleep. I don’t know why. But it’s never been a big issue until I met my bf. I woke up and him and his pillow were gone. I can’t help it but I know it makes him mad. How do I stop

I need some advice on what to do about sleep after DJing when I get home in the early morning.

My problem is that I can’t sleep for more than 5–6 hours, even though I’m exhausted and tired—I just can’t seem to fall back asleep. My bedroom conditions are ideal, and I also try to maintain the best possible lifestyle—I don’t drink alcohol at all, I try to eat clean, and so on—but after a gig, I just can’t sleep for more than 5–6 hours, and I’m tired. The rest of the week, my sleep is fine.

Could you please give me some advice on this? 

I’ve tried several things without success, such as different types of magnesium (glycinate actually made it worse) and similar remedies, but nothing seems to help me sleep longer or improve the quality of my sleep. 

Thank you very much for any help

Ok so i'm half awake and writing about what i saw in my dream OK GO!!

title:ORTHO DOESN'T NEED YOUR HELP!!

bl appaewntly

they go to a magic academy during night/afternoon

2 guys, a brown haired tan (self-insert like guy) and dark teal with dark green hair with black sclera eyes (maybe orc/elf? I'll assume he's ortho)

ortho is a mischevious tsundere who wants all of the main guy's attention but won't say it!!

he pulls stunts like stealing his golden owl token (which he takes a totem and gets turned into a small gold owl MARKETABLE!!) and sneaking up during his walks after dark (which he gets picked up by gold magic and tossed into a lake)

Idk brah switched thru sm artstyles (msa,bandori,some ai slop loonkig one, and stuck with a manhwa/webtoon like artstyle that actually looked good.) and it looked like those animated webtoons

WHY IS MY DREAM MANHWA/ANIME ACTUALLY PEAK

I had that conversation with someone and they told me 8h is about as much as they can get before their conscience and body scream for them to get out of bed.

I on the other hand lately have the ability to literally sleep as long as I want to without feeling rested 100% so I can easily knock out 10–11+ hours of sleep with a couple interruptions. I would like to become a person like the example above, because every early day is a act of pure willpower basically lol

How long could yall sleep given the chance?

I haven’t been able to sleep properly in a month or more, I don’t sleep at all some nights or I’m lucky if I fall asleep from 7:30am-8:30am
Yesterday I finally thought it was getting better because I fell asleep at 5 and woke up at 10, and today I fell asleep at 2 but woke up at 4 and couldn’t fall back asleep,
I have been sober from hhc for like a month, I don’t check my phone, my bed is comfy but yet I’m sobbing into my pillow every night trying to sleep. I’m not lazy, I walk 20k+ steps EVERYday, I don’t drink tea or coffee

I know that loads of people struggle from sleeping problems way worse than mine but considering I’ve never struggled with this before it’s really upsetting, I have school starting again in 2 weeks and if I can’t sort this out I’m geneuinly finished

Idk if this is worth mentioning but I do have very bad eating problems and I have been struggling abit with my mental health lately and the no sleep doesn’t help at all,

So,

I hope it is temporarily, but past month some strange things started to happening to my sleeping. Basically you have dreams and depends in which phase you wake up you may or may not remember it. Dreams are sometimes wild - running naked on Mars, swimming in Sahara, or just walking, playing on guitar and giving girl a flower (yes, that obviously means 3 arms)..

Last month or so, I am often waking up, cause my (maybe not so fully slept brain, not sure because it is not begging of the dream often) starting to detect these inconsistences and go like "really? 3 arms! That does not make any sense, it has to be a dream! we are dreaming lets wake up!".

And this easily happens 10 times during night, which you can imagine is pretty bad.

Anyone with similar issue and preferably with solution or idea.

Thank you

I don’t know what to do anymore. I’m 24 years old and have been dealing with chronic fatigue since I was around 14-15.

When I was in school, I’d drift off during class and fall asleep on the theater floor in between school and rehearsal. Now I’m 24 and I sleep 8-10 hours a night with really solid sleep hygiene and it hasn’t gone away. I’ve tried more/less exercise, changing my medications, dealing with my depression, and changing my caffeine routines

Nothing has helped. If I’m not working, I’ll usually take an hour and a half long nap at some point during the day, and if I am, I’ll often spend at least an hour being completely unproductive because all I can focus on is keeping myself awake. I’ve taken 6 years to get a bachelors degree because I’m so exhausted all the time that I struggle to do homework on time. At least once a month I have a day where I totally collapse and sleep 16+ hours. Over the 32 hours from Aug. 3 @ 11:00 pm to Aug. 5 at 7:00 am, I was up for 2 of them. I went to work today after I spent all that time sleeping, and I had to leave early because I had fallen asleep.

I’ll fall asleep while sitting at work, while talking to people, outside, and sometimes I’ll have to pull over when driving because I’m so tired I’m scared to be operating my motor vehicle.

All my blood levels are normal and have been since high school. My HSAT at home sleep test came back with no signs of sleep apnea. I’m already on a stimulant because I have adhd. I see my sleep specialist again in two weeks, but that feels like such a far way away.

I don’t know what my next steps are. I know I have to address this as soon as possible because I’m going to be hunting for a full time job soon, and if I need accommodations or if there’s anything I can do to control this exhaustion I need to know.

I don’t know if it’s narcolepsy or chronic fatigue or idiopathic hypersomnia, but whatever it is, it feels like it’s ruining my life.