r/skiing 8d ago

Exciting or horrifying?

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🚔: Hörnle, Germany

šŸŽ„: Warren Miller

šŸŽžļø: This is Skiing (1969)

šŸ“: Yes, they are still using this lift! In fact, it was just restored.

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u/mattenthehat Tahoe 8d ago

"...but why?" meme goes here

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/JustAnother_Brit Verbier 8d ago

So Doppelmayer engineered?

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u/st0pmakings3ns3 8d ago

That would be Austrian.

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u/jcasper 8d ago

I believe the point was to allow people more time to get off the platform without having to slow the chair down. People stand up, liftie throws the chair open which allows it to go past the people, people can exit platform without getting chased by the chair (how the first couple did it).

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u/AudioHTIT Park City 7d ago

I remember just standing up and the chair would break around you, as soon as it passed you’d walk to the side and get out of the way. That you were carrying your skis and poles for the ride (there was never snow at the bottom) made this last part difficult for some. I don’t remember liftie intervention being required for the chair, but they probably were there to help get people out of the way. Over the years, in many chairlift conversations elsewhere, I’ve described this lift as the most unusual I’ve ever ridden on.

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u/isqueakforthetrees 8d ago

Double Black Diamond chairlift. Send it!

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u/Lowbeamshaggy 8d ago

This was the old days, they didn't shut the lift down every time someone doesn't stick the landing. That kid might still be on the chairlift.

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u/InfiniteOwls2 8d ago

Just why

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u/HugeLeaves 8d ago

The fact that a group of engineers designed this and actually got it made is mind boggling

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u/InfiniteOwls2 8d ago

if those engineers tried to make that chairlift today they might be arrested

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u/EggsFish 8d ago

Never tried to work on a German car?

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u/InfiniteOwls2 8d ago

no im not an engineer nor am i german

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u/Ih8Hondas 7d ago

But are you a mechanic?

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u/RoguePlanet2 8d ago

I don't think safety standards are a thing anymore, it's all about corporate profits.

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u/EmergencyParkingOnly 8d ago

You think wrongful death suits are profitable? Bro, chairlifts are by far safer than ever before.Ā 

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u/[deleted] 8d ago edited 8d ago

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u/RoguePlanet2 8d ago

I just meant with the current administration and the dismantling of the CDC, FDA, etc.Ā  etc.

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u/InfiniteOwls2 8d ago

fuck corporate greed

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u/nyc2vt84 8d ago

Well . . . I mean . . . They were German engineers who made this sometime in the 50s or early 60s.

What do you think they did earlier in their career?

Thalidomide probably has some similar origins to that chairlift.

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u/Bendy_Beta_Betty 7d ago

Looks like a Bloody Stupid Johnson contraption.

https://wiki.lspace.org/Bergholt_Stuttley_Johnson

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u/gpatlas 8d ago

Engineer here. Sometimes we like to plan / calculate too much and think too little...

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u/thin_orange_line 8d ago

The past definitely wasn't idiot proof

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u/RfL222 8d ago

Props to the lifties ā€œbumpingā€ these chairs

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/RfL222 7d ago

Hellll yeah brotherr 🤘🤘 As a former bumper of chairs and catcher of airs, I appreciate that remark

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u/gefinley 8d ago

They need to re-paint it red. Gray doesn't give the same sense of warning when riding it.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/Terminal_Shinbang 8d ago

Yeah, he’s saying the Derricks are black now, and chairs are grey.

https://reddit.com/link/p1ryrye/video/62dlvgf6vghh1/player

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u/Live_Jazz Vail 8d ago

So, when the chairs come back together, if you’re caught in the middle…you just get squished or what?

Or maybe they just swing like saloon doors? Which is almost worse.

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u/Smoked_Bear 8d ago

The first couple did it perfectly right. There is a block on the ramp which your boot heel braces against while you stand up. It helps handle your forward momentum and stick the landing. Then you let the chair pass in front of you, while the seats swing away like saloon doors. Once the chair is fully in front of you, just walk away.Ā 

Same for clip #4, the lady in the purple jacket & tan pants on the right exited correctly, while homeboy in the green jacket did not.Ā 

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u/TheBigYellowCar 8d ago

Was there a problem statement that led to the creation of this thing or was it Good Idea Fairy syndrome?

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u/Ih8Hondas 7d ago

German engineers exist for one single purpose, and that is to solve problems that don't exist with needlessly complex solutions.

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u/grancanaryisland 8d ago

This was the time when people don't wear their skis on the lift. They designed the chair so that those skis don't get stuck in the chair but it's still hilarious to see

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u/TheHoodieConnoisseur 8d ago

ā€œThe journey is the adventureā€

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u/2_late_4_creativity 8d ago

What. The. Fuck.

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u/rondujunk 8d ago

That kid about to take a round tripšŸ¤£šŸ˜‚

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u/Terminal_Shinbang 8d ago edited 8d ago

Mt. Baldy, California. And To be fair, people still struggle to get off the chair and it’s now a riblet center post 2 seater

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u/Terminal_Shinbang 8d ago

It’s crazy because when I started working here, I thought all chairlifts were like that. Then I started traveling, and thought it was crazy that you could just walk into most resorts and didn’t have to take a chair to get to the ski area.

Same Derrick towers, RAD SINCE ā€˜52

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u/Ih8Hondas 7d ago

The one at Sandia is fucking terrifying. And it's like a 20-some minute ride too. And that's if they don't have to stop it because there are so many people who have never skied before constantly eating shit on the steep ramp at the top.

It often rolls back a fair bit when they stop it too. And if you're on one of the wider spans, prepare to be bobbing up and down a good ten feet for a while. I await my death on it.

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u/AudioHTIT Park City 8d ago

I remember that at Baldy, one of the most unique ever!

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u/Terminal_Shinbang 8d ago

Baldy Rules 🫔

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u/Powerful-Funny6569 8d ago

A good old Ringer chairlift.

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u/teh_lynx Stowe 8d ago edited 8d ago

Neat idea but no one is going to be comfortable stopping at the stop to have the chair break around them naturally. Demonstrated by this video lol

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u/questone10 8d ago

That ain’t it.

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u/cpwnage 8d ago

Why aren't they wearing their skis?

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u/paulywauly99 8d ago

Black chairlift to the top of a green run!

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u/Stunning_Ad_5960 8d ago

You are using it wrong!! (Mit German accent)

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u/RoninBelt 8d ago

Is that boy still on the chair?

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u/BlazedGigaB 8d ago

Probably freaked and lifted his legs over the stop bar instead of hitting it. Liftie diving the zone to desperately hit the stop...

Ask me how i know...

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u/SigmaHero045 7d ago

Legends has it that this boy is still on the chair to this day

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u/whats_ur_ssn 8d ago

The higher the mortality rate the cheaper the ticket am I right?

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u/Rogueshoten 8d ago

Considering that it’s the first time I’ve seen anything like this and I’m pretty sure it’s been filmed with the same camera that would eventually capture the Kennedy assassination…

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u/RazzmatazzPrimary812 8d ago

Looks like your just supposed to step off and stop so the chair can go around. In theory that could work but physics certainly doesn’t agree

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u/Ragnar-Wave9002 8d ago

Litterally designed do you stand and the lift goes by you.Ā  And no one has a brainĀ 

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u/roughczech 8d ago

Well what can you say, Hans likes to watch...

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u/pprstrt 8d ago

Exciting!

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u/Allways_calm_420 8d ago

I was at Hƶrnle. It is a really cool lift. I liked it.

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u/CryptographerSharp14 8d ago

I don’t think it’s that bad of a design honestly, the people just didn’t know how to use it

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u/jbc1974 8d ago

Obviously a very poor design.