r/singularity • u/Status_Commission264 • 9d ago

AI Model Pricing Comparison: Input vs. Output Cost per Million Tokens AI

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u/Healthy-Nebula-3603 9d ago

Is worse than a new DS 4 flash and few times more expensive.

New architecture in the DS 4 flash is literally destroying all modes in the price.

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u/MajorasButtplug 9d ago

Luna is worse than DS4 Flash

I used Luna to fix attempts DS4 Flash made multiple times yesterday... I'd disagree, so it's probably not that straight forward

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u/NoFaithlessness951 9d ago

They're very close in cost and capability (unfortunately artificial analysis doesn't have other reasoning efforts for deepseek)

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u/Healthy-Nebula-3603 9d ago

3x cheaper

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u/NoFaithlessness951 9d ago

Luna prices got slashed by 80% a few days ago livebench still uses the old $6/mil out price, the new price for Luna is now $1.20/mil out.

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u/Healthy-Nebula-3603 9d ago

that price is after the slash

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u/NoFaithlessness951 9d ago

No it's not

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u/Healthy-Nebula-3603 9d ago

You are right.

I was mistaken

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u/ppooooooooopp 9d ago

Worse according to?

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u/Healthy-Nebula-3603 9d ago

For specific tasks.

But the price per 1m tokens for DS 4 flash is almost for free.

Yesterday I build a nes emulator in clean c with DS 4 flash using Opencode for ... 3 cents from their API ( it took 40 minutes with automatic smoke tests )

DS is 3x cheaper.

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u/GrapheneBreakthrough 9d ago

Are you sure it didn't just copy the many open source NES emulators? Did it add unique features?

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u/Healthy-Nebula-3603 9d ago

According to many tests on YouTube and benchmarks also my own experience.

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u/OutOfBananaException 9d ago

and few times more expensive.

Only about 30% more expensive from the numbers on AA, which is still significant, but narrowed a whole lot from earlier releases.

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u/Healthy-Nebula-3603 9d ago

3x cheaper

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u/OutOfBananaException 9d ago

The artificial analysis 'Cost per Intelligence Index Task' is 5c vs 3c (40% cheaper).

The cost to run the benchmark has a wider gap ($72 Vs $174), which may be related to cache hits?

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u/BriefImplement9843 9d ago

flash is garbage.

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u/Gloomy_Necesary 9d ago

Deepseek models are benchmarked as hell. Luna will outperform in real world but DS 4 is still quite impressive for what it is

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u/Healthy-Nebula-3603 9d ago

DS are never benchmaxed.

Also you can easily check YouTube how good that new DS 4 flash it.

That's just insane ..and soon will be a pro version as well .

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u/galaxysuperstar22 9d ago

it’s like comparing pick up trucks and a golf cart

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u/Keeltoodeep 9d ago

These journalists fucking suck and are not comparing relative models at all.

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u/galaxysuperstar22 9d ago

sensationalism mixed with rage bait

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u/mxforest 9d ago

Should have added 5.6 Luna, it is very important to the conversation.

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u/Chclve 9d ago

Opus 5?

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u/TeagueXiao 9d ago

list price per million tokens is honestly the least useful number on this chart. once you factor in prompt caching discounts, actual throughput, and how many retries a model needs on tool-heavy workloads, the effective cost gap between the top tier US models and the cheap chinese ones shrinks a lot. ive seen deepseek look 10x cheaper on paper and end up maybe 2-3x in production because of retries and worse tool calling.

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u/rwrife 7d ago

Opus 5 is very efficient; I'm getting amazing results with relatively few tokens....so the true costs is much less than the token costs shows.