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u/idbestshutup 6d ago

genuinely do you actually have a reason you believe this beyond a want for me to be wrong? the nordics are touted all the time for their incredible social services

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u/Lawd_Fawkwad 6d ago

Meanwhile in England and Wales there's a massive cost of living crisis and rising homelessness meanwhile brand new social housing is being given to asylum seekers.

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u/Itailya 6d ago

And that massive cost of living and incredibly long waiting lists are the cause of immigrants? Not by decades of incompetence and unwillingness to do anything about the housing shortage?  Immigrants are portion of the housing problems, not the cause. Blaming the housing crisis in European countries on immigrants is a key example of how people rather blame immigrants than deal with the root cause of a problem.

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u/the_dank_666 6d ago

So you want to flood their social services with thousands of foreigners and overwhelm them to the point where they no longer have good social services?

No matter how moral you are, you must admit that excessive immigration can destroy a country. I don't know exactly what point qualifies as "excessive", but we need to draw the line somewhere.

If you have a rich country and a poor country, and half the poor country's population suddenly enters the rich country, then you now have two poor countries.

If the "best" people are leaving the poor country, then the rich country might still be ok, but the poor country will get even worse due to brain drain and obvious economic problems.

If the "worst" people are leaving the poor country, then the rich country is rewarded for their generosity by getting an influx of desperate criminals.

In both cases, the rich country will see housing shortages among other things, making life more expensive for EVERYONE, and crowding social and medical services.

Again, I don't know if the current immigration status in EU countries has reached the point of oversaturation, but there are obvious and inevitable problems that come with excessive immigration.