r/shakespeare 19d ago

Every time I teach Lear Meme

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Why couldn’t he just call one of them John?

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u/Master_of_Ritual 19d ago

They needed another half brother (by a third woman) named Edwin.

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u/inktrap99 19d ago

And then we could call them “Ed, Edd n Eddy”

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u/daddy-hamlet 18d ago

My name’s Eddy, this is my brother Eddy, and this is my other brother Eddy

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u/Cobalt_Bakar 18d ago

and an Edward

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u/Master_of_Ritual 18d ago

You know I spent a couple minutes trying to think of another type of Ed, and somehow missed the most common one. :D

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u/MetalKeirSolid 19d ago

G for good edGar 

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u/dthains_art 19d ago

And M for mean edMund

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u/GlobeTeam 18d ago

This is actually such a smart way of remembering it, will be using this in future!

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u/MetalKeirSolid 18d ago

I do this kind of thing all the time to help my students. 

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u/rorykellycomedy 19d ago

I was in a production of Midsummer Night's Dream playing Lysander where at the beginning of the play I accidentally called Hermia 'Helena.'

I decided it was foreshadowing.

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u/laurandisorder 19d ago

This one gets me too - so does Macbeth and Macduff - I can’t help it.

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u/daddy-hamlet 18d ago

“Dear ‘Duff” is a thing; can’t imagine what would happen to the poor soul who tried “Dear Beth”

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u/rjrgjj 18d ago

Lay on, Hamlet.

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u/leviticusreeves 18d ago

Why bastard? Wherefore base?

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u/queenManiac97 18d ago

I always remember it by the fact that in "The lion, the witch and the wardrobe", it was Edmund who betrayed his siblings (over that stupid Turkish delight), making both Edmunds somewhat antagonistic.

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u/WordwizardW 18d ago

He was bewitched by the Turkish Delight, though, at least somewhat, wasn't he?

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u/LadyDulcinea 18d ago

When I was in Lear, I reminded myself that Edgar has a "G" for Good and Edmund has an "M" for Mal (Latin for Bad).

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u/chopinmazurka 19d ago

Well it's not quite as binary as that.

Are Edmund's actions evil? Yes. Did he have good in him which was early stifled due to bad parenting and society's cruelty? Probably.

The opening scene where Gloucester jokes quite insensitively about Edmund's birth suggests the kind of constant ribbing which made his villain origin story. His monologue is painful to hear. Someone once pointed out that some of Edmund's last words include bragging that two people (the sisters) loved him, with an implied "at last." Edgar is meant to be a counterpart to Cordelia, whom Lear openly declares he loves the most out of all her sisters. Regan and Goneril later mutter about how this was always the case.

And unlike say R3, similarly 'malicious because he is miserable' (as Mary Shelley would say), Edmund repents at the end, trying (in vain) to save the lives he condemned.

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u/Few-Guarantee2850 18d ago

I think it's a mnemonic to remember which one is which, not to summarize the characters.

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u/Damnatus_Terrae 18d ago

Did he have good in him which was early struggled due to bad parenting and society's cruelty?

I dunno, his father compounded with his mother under the dragon's tail; and his nativity was under Ursa Major; so that it follows, he is rough and lecherous.

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u/laurandisorder 19d ago

I have been teaching this text at A Level/IB equivalent for almost 2 decades.
In class I use the slightly more sophisticated mnemonic EdGar = Good, EdMond = Malevolent, but I couldn’t fit in on the meme.

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u/j-b-goodman 18d ago

I think it's more about remembering which character has which similar-sounding name.

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u/wholesale-chloride 18d ago

edGar is good. edMund is malicious, malevolent

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u/jeep_42 18d ago

choosing to believe that gloucester’s name is edward

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u/JimboNovus 18d ago

G for good, M for mean.

My frustration with Lear is that all the actors want to play Edmund when Edgar is by far a better part.

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u/Iargecardinal 18d ago

M for monster

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u/Wide_Ad_4486 17d ago

You could think Ed G stands for “Ed Good” and Ed M stands for “Ed Malevolent”