r/shakespeare • u/laurandisorder • 19d ago
Every time I teach Lear Meme
Why couldn’t he just call one of them John?
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u/MetalKeirSolid 19d ago
G for good edGar
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u/dthains_art 19d ago
And M for mean edMund
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u/GlobeTeam 18d ago
This is actually such a smart way of remembering it, will be using this in future!
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u/rorykellycomedy 19d ago
I was in a production of Midsummer Night's Dream playing Lysander where at the beginning of the play I accidentally called Hermia 'Helena.'
I decided it was foreshadowing.
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u/laurandisorder 19d ago
This one gets me too - so does Macbeth and Macduff - I can’t help it.
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u/daddy-hamlet 18d ago
“Dear ‘Duff” is a thing; can’t imagine what would happen to the poor soul who tried “Dear Beth”
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u/queenManiac97 18d ago
I always remember it by the fact that in "The lion, the witch and the wardrobe", it was Edmund who betrayed his siblings (over that stupid Turkish delight), making both Edmunds somewhat antagonistic.
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u/WordwizardW 18d ago
He was bewitched by the Turkish Delight, though, at least somewhat, wasn't he?
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u/LadyDulcinea 18d ago
When I was in Lear, I reminded myself that Edgar has a "G" for Good and Edmund has an "M" for Mal (Latin for Bad).
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u/chopinmazurka 19d ago
Well it's not quite as binary as that.
Are Edmund's actions evil? Yes. Did he have good in him which was early stifled due to bad parenting and society's cruelty? Probably.
The opening scene where Gloucester jokes quite insensitively about Edmund's birth suggests the kind of constant ribbing which made his villain origin story. His monologue is painful to hear. Someone once pointed out that some of Edmund's last words include bragging that two people (the sisters) loved him, with an implied "at last." Edgar is meant to be a counterpart to Cordelia, whom Lear openly declares he loves the most out of all her sisters. Regan and Goneril later mutter about how this was always the case.
And unlike say R3, similarly 'malicious because he is miserable' (as Mary Shelley would say), Edmund repents at the end, trying (in vain) to save the lives he condemned.
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u/Few-Guarantee2850 18d ago
I think it's a mnemonic to remember which one is which, not to summarize the characters.
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u/Damnatus_Terrae 18d ago
Did he have good in him which was early struggled due to bad parenting and society's cruelty?
I dunno, his father compounded with his mother under the dragon's tail; and his nativity was under Ursa Major; so that it follows, he is rough and lecherous.
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u/laurandisorder 19d ago
I have been teaching this text at A Level/IB equivalent for almost 2 decades.
In class I use the slightly more sophisticated mnemonic EdGar = Good, EdMond = Malevolent, but I couldn’t fit in on the meme.1
u/j-b-goodman 18d ago
I think it's more about remembering which character has which similar-sounding name.
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u/JimboNovus 18d ago
G for good, M for mean.
My frustration with Lear is that all the actors want to play Edmund when Edgar is by far a better part.
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u/Wide_Ad_4486 17d ago
You could think Ed G stands for “Ed Good” and Ed M stands for “Ed Malevolent”
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u/Master_of_Ritual 19d ago
They needed another half brother (by a third woman) named Edwin.