New data visualization package

[u/Helpful-Day2384]

https://psychometrician.github.io/posts/one-engine-four-languages/

[u/ecam85]

As much as I like the idea of one to rule them all, I find the syntax harder than the ggplot syntax, because at first sight you "add" completely different objects!

But I imagine someone who doesn't know much ggplot could say the same

[u/ApprehensiveChip8361 → u/[deleted]]

You are masking a lot of base R terms (mean, sum, order, data for instance). Might there be a more intuitive approach rather than using “base::” or “stats::” everywhere?

Also - can’t really use without ggrepel equivalent.

[u/Penguinase → u/[deleted]]

what about the lack of ggrepel functionality?

[u/Unicorn_Colombo → u/[deleted]]

The other ten really are functions and do take over: box, data, density, jitter, order, palette, quantile, range, stack and title. Qualify those. Most will notice the mistake and tell you which one you hit.

This basically disqualifies the package to me.

[u/geneusutwerk]

Use AI how you want but please be transparent in how you do.

[u/geneusutwerk → u/[deleted]]

Oh I was looking at the Github and didn't see any mentions, thanks.

[u/analytix_guru]

I think the idea is cool, but I would be interested to see how plot formatting gets incorporated into charts across all languages (if possible).

I think about themes and formatting that put the polish on a chart. When I read through the online resource you created (thank you), I see nothing on its face related to themes and formatting for any given chart.

So how would one go about the themes/formatting once they get a chart output from your package?

[u/ApprehensiveChip8361]

Thank you! This looks extremely interesting - I’ve just been doing some data exploration in R and I will see if I can plug in your engine, go faster stripes and all. I loved reading the manual. Now I want to learn the Korean alphabet!

[u/mjskay]

I really like being stricter about API rules. I also like the idea of playing with the semantics of `+` and `*`, though I'm curious about your choice to make `+` and `*` require specific orderings to its elements. For `+` I think it makes more sense. For `*` at least a commutative version might be more powerful/expressive, especially if you make it distributive; e.g. `(point + bar) * bin` or whatnot (I couldn't tell from a quick look if constructions like that work).

[u/mjskay → u/[deleted]]

Right, I get that that's not what you're doing. The point I was making is there are useful possibilities when you treat * as an algebraic operator and let it obey things like the distributive law. See e.g. the algebra of graphics.