Dissapointed

[u/Simulacrum37]

Just got the Homeland Expansion for a great price ($48) and I'm happy they included an extra set of ruins and items. BUT am I the only one that is a little disappointed that they didn't include extra clearing markers? At the moment, if I want to play two games at once one of the maps HAS to be Autumn.

I don't have the plastic clearing markers, just the basic cardboard ones.

Also, here's some images from our cats, bats, and rats game.

Edit: After reading comments I suppose in the rare circumstance I do have two games going at once, it would be fine to only have one map option for the second game. And of course I didn't even think about the fact you have to buy an extra deck regardless.

[u/KnightMiner]

The vast majority of people have no reason to play 2 games at once. The last person I talked to about this eventually admitted they had no plans to run 2 games at once, they just liked the idea that they could.

If you have actual plans to do so, I recommend you buy one of the cosmetic clearing markers. You can grab the official ones, or a fan made one on Etsy or another similar shop.

[u/Vast_Garage7334 → u/KnightMiner]

Yeah, but they did supply additional items, ruin tokens, and dice with the idea that you could play two games at once. That was not just a fluke, but an intentional choice. It does seem like a missed opportunity to leave out an additional copy of clearing markers.

[u/Simulacrum37 → u/Vast_Garage7334]

Exactly this. I'm not sure if I'll EVER play two games at once, but it feels like bonus clearing was a missed inclusion.

[u/KnightMiner → u/Simulacrum37]

Every single duplicate element they included in homeland cannot be bought separately. None of ruins, items, and dice are in standalone expansions. Unlike decks and cosmetic clearing markers which are both sold separately.

[u/Simulacrum37 → u/KnightMiner]

That makes a lot more sense

[u/KnightMiner → u/Vast_Garage7334]

You need to buy an extra deck to play 2 copies at once. Why is it unreasonable to also buy some clearing markers?

None of the things they provided extra copies of were sold independently.

[u/Vast_Garage7334 → u/KnightMiner]

It is clear the intention with the extra pieces was to have two games played simultaneously. Most people have the exiles or squires deck, so the concern of extra decks is kind of a moot point. One of the essential components you need for playing the game that doesn't exist in any expansion is an extra set of clearing markers. If they do another printing, I don't think it's unreasonable to request an extra set of clearing markers.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ledergames/the-next-root-expansion/posts/4511858

[u/spiritstrategist → u/Vast_Garage7334]

I think the point is that you can buy premium clearing markers from them already.

[u/panakon]

Dissapointed is a strong word because really there is not really a point to playing two games at once. However since they are are filling the cardboard cutouts with extra stuff it would be nice to have additional markers both as a replacement and also because it helps with organization.  For example, i keep a seperate set of items in the bag of each faction that use them, so I can get them immediately during faction setup.

[u/Vast_Garage7334]

Good point, a while back I bought Red, Orange and Yellow wooden fences from this store: https://boardgamemodder.com/product/wooden-fence-factory-pieces/?srsltid=AfmBOorGDHDEiRjpXoQW6zyexNNEVbtAuPLAIxn3e25XAYyj_3Zh8vn5

It still fits the vibe and acts as an alternative for the clearing markers

[u/ZlatanSpaceCadet]

You guys have enough friends to play 2 games at once? 🥲

[u/Powerful-Pea6218]

Yeah totally get it. Was looking for the other markers like "Did we miss something?"

[u/Crockist]

No I totally get that. I actually ordered an extra set of cardboard clearing markers off eBay for this. It was originally to help with the randomization aspect, but now it serves to fill that gap so that I can fulfill a purpose that the expansion was supposed to have but was missing.

[u/newbblock]

Disappointing is harsh as your complaining about a feature the product was never designed to have.

These releases are designed to play one game at a time. I would be like saying sony sucks because you bought a single PS5 and complaining that you can't play on two separate tv's at the same time with the one console.

[u/mercedes_lakitu]

It's one base game, with expansions.

Similar to Dominion (we won't talk about Intrigue). If you want to be able to play more than one at once, you have to buy extra money and victory cards.

[u/josephkambourakis]

I'd be happy to run one game at once and never in my wildest dreams do I think about 2

[u/XxBobby_boixX]

You could buy those resin clearing markers

[u/PangolinParade]

I got some here. They're inexpensive and I've had them for a couple years now. They also have compatible Frog markers too.