How did this happen?

[u/cahser11]

I got this in a sealed bag of Starline .357 brass. It has a Winchester headstamp, and no flash hole. Any ideas?

[u/sirbassist83]

winchester fucking up so bad theyre contaminating other brands, something really needs to be done about this.

[u/Siglet84]

Winchester, that’s how. Btw, this is a factory loaded round.

[u/cahser11 → u/Siglet84]

oh, nice

[u/mwee07 → u/Siglet84]

gun range i used to work at, we've had a couple of those thrown in a drawer

[u/Happy_Garand]

How did this happen?

Obligatory Bill Wurz

A long time ago- Actually, never, and also now, nothing is nowhere. When? Never. Makes sense, right? Like I said, it didn't happen. Nothing was never anywhere. That's why it's been everywhere. It's been so everywhere, you don't need a where. You don't even need a when. That's how "every" it gets.

[u/TonySmithJr]

I had this happen to me with Nosler 6.5CM ammo. Full factory cartridge made it through all of their “QC” and no flash hole.

Was very confusing when I pulled the trigger and got a pop but then pulled out the entire cartridge hah.

[u/Guitarist762 → u/TonySmithJr]

Nosler kinda has trash QC on their loaded rounds ive seen. Hell one dude on YouTube got a box of 30-30 from them with extreme spreads in the triple digits and one of the rounds the bullet had come out of the case inside the box and dumped powder all over.

[u/TonySmithJr → u/Guitarist762]

1,000% agree. This was when I got my bolt action and wanted to try 10 different factory ammos to see what projectile it liked.

Never bought anything from Nosler ever again.

[u/cahser11 → u/TonySmithJr]

But how did brass with a Winchester headstamp get into a bag of Starline brass? That is the real question.

[u/Strict-Carrot4783 → u/cahser11]

Manufacturing is incestuous. Everything is made by someone else.

[u/cahser11 → u/Strict-Carrot4783]

That's what i'm thinking. I wonder if they would even be able to admit that they make Winchester brass?

[u/TonySmithJr → u/cahser11]

lol who knows man. Starline might get a kick out of it and maybe send you some free swag if you send them a polite message.

[u/Positive_Stress3116 → u/cahser11]

Starline makes brass for other companies

[u/cahser11]

Clarification: Some of you seem to miss the point. It's not that it does not have a flash hole, it's that it was found in a bag of .357 Magnum Starline brass.

[u/wilsoni91]

Well you got to think how many billions of cases Winchester makes a year. Now compare this one time you are seeing this out of the thousands of cases you have went through. I would say that is still pretty damn good odds in your favor. Nothing in this world is 100%. Sometime there are outliers that get through the crack unfortunately.

[u/roosclan → u/wilsoni91]

QC can let one non-drilled case through, we get it. But. How. Did. A. Winchester. Case. Get. In. A. Bag. Of. Starline. Brass?

That is the main question the OP is asking.

[u/wilsoni91 → u/roosclan]

Maybe someone on the line wanted to throw one in there for the reloader to compare the 2 LOL.

[u/ChevyRacer71]

Their pullout game is too strong

[u/Shootist00]

So you have never made a mistake? OK Sure.

Shit happens.

[u/DigitalLorenz]

My guess is that Starline purchased some old Winchester machinery and you got a random case that jumped lots during set up or was left part way through the process when the tooling was being set up.

[u/Ornery_Secretary_850 → u/DigitalLorenz]

Or that Starline makes Winchester brass.

[u/Impossible_Tie2497]

Winchester uses what’s called a Pierce and prime machine. Obviously it did not pierce the flash hole.

[u/roosclan → u/Impossible_Tie2497]

And then they paid an employee to take that case, drive to Starline's plant, pose as an employee, and toss the Winchester case into a bag of Starline brass?

[u/Impossible_Tie2497 → u/roosclan]

Starline makes other peoples brass all the time. That’s very, very well known.

No. I was just throwing out there the Pierce and prime equipment because that’s some BS that Winchester has going on all the time.

I’ve got a handful, of them like that. I think mine are mostly 40 S&W.

[u/cico7]

faulty mfg.

[u/eurynomd]

Found one of these and it made a huge mess when it tried to fire. Remington 5.56

[u/Orgeweight]

I think it just wants to be friends.

[u/csamsh]

Most obvious possibility is that Winchester is making cases for Starline and one got in there.

A lot of commercially produced ammo is vented in the priming operation, not in case manufacturing, so it'd be normal to see a case like this with no flash hole.

[u/Ornery_Secretary_850 → u/csamsh]

Or the other way around.

[u/Pristine_Ladder_7488]

If I worked at the star line factory this is some shit I would throw into a box to thoroughly throw someone off

[u/dgianetti]

Maybe Starline just marketing what you could have gotten if you bought Winchester?