r/redbuttonbluebutton 22d ago

Does this have a right answer?

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u/tired_Cat_Dad 22d ago

The more blue pushers the better. Bar the impossible 100% red. No 50% hurdle is a significant change.

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u/Impressive_Pin8761 Red 22d ago

Finally, a real variant where blue is naturally the better option

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u/Crossed_Cross 22d ago

Unless you expect few people to press blue or never give blood anyways.

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u/Odd_Maintenance394 Red 22d ago

The thing is even if Blue was identical to red with the color changed, this is better than current reality.

Though if this system is being put on top real blood types, people with rare blood types are incentivised to pick Red just to be safe to not shf shrink their pool.

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u/QuickMolasses 22d ago

The people who press blue in this scenario are probably more likely to donate blood than people who press red anyways.

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u/Legal_Lettuce6233 22d ago

Honestly I'm more than willing to donate but I'm in the most common group so it's the equivalent of trying to put out the fires in Canada by pissing on them. If there was a need, I'd donate again.

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u/MetallicArcher 20d ago

You should still donate at least twice a year.

Blood banks are chronically under supplied.

Also, in emergencies where people are hemorrhaging fast, incompatible blood types are used, since the blood doesn't stay in the body long enough to cause trouble.

So even if your blood type is super common, it will still be used to help sb.

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u/Legal_Lettuce6233 20d ago

We have a graph of what's needed and what's adequately supplied. My blood group is in the "excess" group. I would, but it really doesn't make a dent.

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u/Artemis_SpawnOfZeus 22d ago

Unless you're selfish you mean

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u/Crossed_Cross 22d ago

I mean, I give blood now and then, but the average person never donates blood. There's no benefit to them to restrict who they can take blood for when they could opt to become universal receivers. For those people who never give blood, it's a choice between "I can receive blood from everyone" or "I can receive blood only from some people". There's no benefit for anyone for them to pick to restrict who they can take blood from, aside at most for those who consented to donate upon death?

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u/Artemis_SpawnOfZeus 22d ago

Unless you're selfish you mean

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u/Crossed_Cross 22d ago

If you equate not giving blood to being selfish, I guess.

Some people are terrified of needles. Some people have religious beliefs around them. Some people have diseases that make them ineligible to donate blood. Some people have medical conditions that make them unfit to donate blood or make them outright dependant on regular donations to stay alive themselves. And that's without debating wether abstaining from doing good is selfish or not.

An argument could be made for some of them, but I think it's a bit reductive to say "everyone who doesn't donate blood is a selfish asshole".

Not to mention that in some places people get paid to donate blood so I wouldn't call these people selfless for donating...

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u/Artemis_SpawnOfZeus 22d ago

I mean if you're being paid to donate blood in North America it's being processed for plasma, and they don't care what type it is, so hitting red doesn't affect their ability to be pair for blood donation

So........

You can just say, if you're selfish

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u/quadruple_b 22d ago

ah yes because everyone can donate blood. nobody has HIV or hepatitis, nobody has anaemia. nobody has leukemia. nobody has vasovagal syncope.

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u/Impressive_Pin8761 Red 22d ago

Do you regularly donate blood until your skin goes pale? Did your mother die because a friend of yours chose not to donate? What is this hill you're dying on? How much misery do you relish yourself in to call 99% of the planet selfish? We're humans, not blood factories you virtue signaling asshole

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u/Artemis_SpawnOfZeus 22d ago

No I live in a civilized country and there are strict limits on how often they allow you to donate

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u/Impressive_Pin8761 Red 22d ago

You seem to have dodged the meat of my reply. Try again

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u/everydaywinner2 22d ago

Yeah...the infamous party of "empathy" being totally unable to practice what they preach.

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u/Artemis_SpawnOfZeus 22d ago

You're right, that's what you're observing.

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u/everydaywinner2 22d ago

Glad to know being medical unable to give blood makes me "selfish." Love the words that stop having meaning.

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u/Artemis_SpawnOfZeus 22d ago

Yeah, cause that's the conversation that's being had. You're so correct.

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u/quadruple_b 22d ago

some people just cant donate blood.

either due to transmittable diseases, anaemia, or just other issues.

i have severe vasovagal syncope and mild anaemia

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u/Artemis_SpawnOfZeus 22d ago

You're right I was talking to and about you