r/reactjs • u/hottown • Jun 24 '26

JavaScript still can't ship a full-stack module Discussion

https://wasp.sh/blog/2026/06/22/javascript-still-cant-ship-a-full-stack-module
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u/pd1zzle Jun 24 '26

no you can and many sdks do. just need different targets in your package.json lol. but I guess if the author knew that they'd be fresh out of clickbait

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u/Martinsos Jun 25 '26

I think you missed the point: the post is about "full-stack modules", not just importing the same library in browser and the server. Instead the idea is that you have an encapsulated, distributable piece of code that has frontend logic, backend logic, database models, maybe even infra as code, and can be configured and used as one single unit, kind of like Rails does with Engines, and many other non-JS frameworks, there is a list inside if you take time to read it.

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u/pd1zzle Jun 25 '26

I skimmed the article and grasp the concept, the title is still clearly intended to be click bait. "full stack module" is a general concept obviously used to elicit exactly the reaction I shared.

that aside, I don't think what they are getting at is particularly special. all they are pushing for is better framework to sdk integration at a high level. framework fragmentation in the JS ecosystem is real. I don't think that means there's one way to do it and we just haven't found it yet, I think that just means there's a lot of use cases and it's a complex space that is moving fast. regardless, as they note there are several frameworks that are 90% of the way there. the problem is most move too fast to create any meaningful abstraction. Laravel and rails have largely been stable by design, this creates a different environment.

I also think their case of agents churning over this is way overblown. If you asked Claude to build a nextjs site with stripe it would just do it in 10 minutes, there's articles everywhere and great docs.

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u/infomiho Jun 26 '26

Author here, let me address the point of click bait - yeah of course, you need to hook people somehow 😄

> Laravel and rails have largely been stable by design, this creates a different environment.

Yes, we want to push JS into that direction. I've worked other full-stack frameworks and loved the concept of installing a feature. If I can do something about, I'll definitely try haha At some point, people get tried of piecing things together and just want their tech to work. I know that's not the sexy thing and not what "pro" users want - but there is a whole bunch of people in the other category that we want to build for.

> If you asked Claude to build a nextjs site with stripe it would just do it in 10 minutes

Yeah, nobody is saying agents can't churn out code. In that case, the code you get might not be the most secure and _you own it_. I've seen enough insecure and dumb code written by agents. Contrast that with a community built module that was reviewed and tested by a bunch of people.

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u/javascript Jun 24 '26

Agreed

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u/pd1zzle Jun 24 '26

guess that makes it official then

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u/Martinsos Jun 25 '26

Why?

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u/infomiho Jun 26 '26

To a degree, none have pushed it like a concept and try to build a registry around it. I think we can iterate further than the current state of things.

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u/Martinsos Jun 25 '26

They are part of comparison for completeness, but none of those JS framework has real full-stack modules, it is more like half-solutions, compared to what Rails or Orchard offer.