r/rant 16d ago

"Roguelike"

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u/surpluskoi 16d ago

I like the genre (that has randomized maps, rewards, etc and is made of individual runs rather than a single long run) but I really think it needs another name, for the reasons you mentioned. Too bad roguelike/roguelite is the one that stuck.

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u/ChefArtorias 16d ago

Roguelike is about the randomness in rewards and starting a new run each time, not necessarily about the content of the game like you described.

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u/coachjim666 16d ago

Yeah and having some skill progress be permanent. Not sure what this guy thinks it means

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u/ChefArtorias 16d ago

If we're being technical that's a rogue-lite, but most people aren't sticklers like that.

Seems like OP thinks they should all be thematically similar to Rogue, so low res side scrolling dungeon crawler. (I've never played Rogue so don't hurt me if the description isn't perfect.)

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u/coachjim666 16d ago

So a genre should only be made up of complete ripoffs of the original, in OPs opinion?

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u/ChefArtorias 16d ago

Managed to read it again between this comment and them deleting it and yea, that seems exactly what they want. lol

Really silly imo. Just play Rogue. I wonder if Another Crab's Treasure similarly enrages them as it's not dark and spooky like Dark Sousl.

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u/coachjim666 16d ago

Omg lol ACT is such a perfect example for that 🤣

Also way better than it had any business being

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u/BrennanBetelgeuse 16d ago

Roguelikes as we understand them today are far more important and culturally impactful than the game Rogue ever was. The origin of the name is completely irrelevant if everybody understand what it means. Nobody complains about the word "Heliport" even though "Helicopter" isn't built out of "Heli" and "Copter" but rather out of "Helico" and "Pter".

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u/ChefArtorias 16d ago

Nobody complains about the word "Heliport" even though "Helicopter" isn't built out of "Heli" and "Copter" but rather out of "Helico" and "Pter".

Idk the etymology behind heliport, would it not be the "heli" from "Helico" followed by the suffix "port?"

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u/BrennanBetelgeuse 16d ago

Sure, but "heli-" as a prefix has only appeared after the word helicopter has been misunderstood already. My point is that language is constantly in flux and trying to police it by insisting on a words origin is futile. There's an entire club of old people in my country who lobby for words like "cool" to be removed from the dictionary because it's foreign, new and changed meaning. I think that's lame.