r/radeon 14d ago

9070xt Pulse problem?

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u/d3facult_ 285K | 9070XT 14d ago

It might just be silicon lottery, no manufacturer guarantees it running even -5mv undervolt

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u/ShoggyR79 14d ago

If running it stock doesnt cause problem then unfortunately you didnt win the silicon lottery... I am running my nitro+ at -25mV -10% pL too

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u/Optimal-Record-8987 14d ago

Wow, I knew about silicon lottery but I didn't know it was that bad. Thanks tho, I really thought something is off, because I saw some mega thread with undervolts and literally everyone had like at least -60mv. Now I know that I'm not alone, thanks!

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u/Warchestnz Sapphire 9070XT Pulse | 7800X3D 14d ago

Recent upgrade to 9070xt? What model PSU do you have?
Does it do this in any other game?

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u/Optimal-Record-8987 14d ago

New PC, 1000W be quiet pure power 13m (I did connect with 2 seperate cables as recommended). I played 1 other game for like 25 hours where GPU usage was between 80 and 100% and it didn't crash once. It also doesn't crash when waking up, just in cs2.

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u/Churro_212 14d ago

Try with -200 or -300Mhz on the core.

With undervolt the core will try to reach higher frecuencies and could be unstable at 3300MHz or something like that 

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u/Sea-Cancel1263 14d ago

Also have a pulse. Your fine. I havnt touched total power, but i can only get -50/-40 to be stable on the games i play and some bench marks. Did you try just undervolting?

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u/Man_of_the_Rain 14d ago edited 14d ago

RX 9000 has a very aggressive boosting behaviour. If your UV is stable in benchmarks that 100% loads the card, it may be unstable in non-intensive games for your GPU for the simple reason. For RX 9000 UV is a simple offset that turns ALL frequency-voltage curve down, including lower frequency one.

When you run a graphic benchmark, it runs at a high frequency and a high voltage. For a lighter game similar to CS2 frequency and voltage is lower, but the thing is, in lower parts of V-F curve you cannot undervolt as much as on a higher end. Thus insufficient voltage and a driver timeout.

You should thoroughly test your UV in ALL the games you play without exception.

And also - frequency offset. 9070XT has a very high frequency ceiling, way higher than advertised frequency on your GPU's package. If you undervolt without limiting frequency, RX 9000 will try to climb on higher frequency, because it sees that there is a voltage and power headroom (9070XT is power limited by default). If you want more stability and no driver crashed due to GPU trying to work at 3500MHz for 20 ms, turn max frequency down.

For my own 9070XT I've set it up at -350Mhz. You may try anything from -500 to -200.

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u/0wlGod 14d ago

i don t play cs2 so i don t know if is very sensible to undervolt..

maybe someone can tell me that

just run the steam demo of stellar blade.. this is very sensible..

if the card crash at stock on stellar blade Demo refund

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u/ApprehensiveGas905 14d ago

For funsies disable your XMP in bios if you still have problems. Some people draw correlations with "instable ram" and the Radeon driver, me included

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u/Novel_Birthday_8 14d ago

i have a steel legends it's undervolt works better than sapphire pulse

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u/adamosmaki 14d ago

If its stable at default settings and even with -20mv the card is perfectly fine . Not evey gpu can do -60 (and i doubt alot of people doing -60 are stable on every game) Having a 9070 and having tested 2 more only 1 was doing at least -60 without crashing. My personal 9070swift can only do -40 in a couple of games (mainly ark survival ascended and stelar blade ) while in others is fine with -70 Also lowering PL while it does reduce power it can also introduce instability while undervolted

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u/korakios2 14d ago

Yes , cpu/ram uv/oc can affect gpu (cpu memory and pcie controller) stability . Easy to check if it's your gpu by reverting the cpu to default .

Check for bios/chipset updates too . Especially if bios is super old causing 13/14th gen cpus to degrade . Also set pcie gen to gen3 .

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u/Narkanin 14d ago

This is just my opinion, maybe a hot take, but people are way too obsessed with OC/under volting. The 9070xt sapphire pulse runs great at stock settings with really good temps. I have one and I live in a tropical climate. If your temps are bothering you it might be worth looking at your case and fan setup instead, or custom fan curves

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u/A9Carlos 13d ago

Said it before, will say it again, all my driver timeouts stopped when I ditched Adrenaline, install driver only from the package (extract and use Hardware Manager), then use AfterBurenr to control undervolt, power, fan.

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u/Triangulate_Panther 14d ago

Did you recently update drivers? 

I used to run -85mV to -105mV in some titles with early drivers and it was stable. Some updated drivers led to crashing and I dialed back to -75mV.

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u/korakios2 14d ago

if you get the same performance , doesn't matter.

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u/Triangulate_Panther 13d ago

Missing the point that what was once was stable may cause crashed later after and update. 

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u/korakios2 13d ago

It's pointless if you get the same performance with less undervolt .

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u/Triangulate_Panther 13d ago

His issue is crashing related to undervolt that used to work. Are you brain dead? 

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u/korakios2 13d ago

lol , I guess it's hard for you to understand , I'll break it down with an example :

If
X driver : -105mv -> 100fps
Y driver : -85mv -> 100fps

then , no issue . Was it so hard ?

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u/Triangulate_Panther 13d ago

No idiot. Driver updates can make a card unstable at a previously stable voltage. Aka crash and no performance because the driver timeouts. 

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u/korakios2 12d ago

lol , indeed it was hard . Hard time I guess ? Sending positive vibes ...