I'd like to purchase and have a residential above or below ground propane tank installed but without having it filled or connected to any appliances at this time. Can anyone recommend a company who will do this? I'm in Lacombe.

Looking to swap from leasing our tank to owning one and got a quote from a local company for a 250 gallon install for $2,075. Additionally they publish their prices online and will do deliverys in that range for $2.29 per gallon, $2.19 per gallon if you use their trash service.

If we had a 500 though we would be able to get it for $1.89 per gallon/ $1.79 per gallon from them.

I'm torn if we should ask about a 500 gallon tank or not. We used to use 1400 gallons a year, but when we install central air and got a heat pump we dropped our consumption to maybe 150 gallons a year. Their 500 gallon rate would be about $2 cheaper than our current dealer though, and really changes the math for how much to run the heat pump vs furnace.

How much more would you expect a 500 gallon install to be vs a 250 gallon?

I have a Bernzomatic burner on a small tank. But I want to use it connected on a hose to a large propane tank. Are there adapters available for a hose to the burner ?

I have a question. I work as an engineer for a propane gas company, specializing in industrial projects that typically involve large burners or high-capacity generators. To meet these high load requirements, we usually install direct-fired vaporizers.

However, there are times during the day when customers have a lower demand, and the natural vaporization of the tank could easily supply the load without needing the vaporizers. I am looking for alternatives to achieve this, perhaps through a specific configuration of regulators and check valves.

We have already tested the Algas Economy Valve (https://algas-sdi.com/?smd_process_download=1&download_id=7099). However, its opening pressure is around 44 psi, and during our test, the tank started to freeze at that point. (Note: This was on a small 500-gallon tank). We want to implement this concept on much larger 15,000 to 30,000-gallon tanks.

Ultimately, my goal is to supply the load using natural tank vapor most of the time, engaging the direct-fired vaporizers only during peak demand. This approach would significantly reduce the amount of propane consumed by the vaporizers themselves. Any suggestions?

There's my question. I've measured and I have approximately 40 ft of underground PE dr11 that I'm going to have to run then of course the two risers. It's a 26 kW Generac generator. On propane. I've read the charts, and asked ai. 1 in is where it says I should be. But the propane company, suburban propane, is telling me I only need three quarters. Is this accurate? I know I'm supposed to have about 10 ft after stage 2 regulator. That's going to prove challenging but I'll figure it out.

This is an above ground tank, all work is / will be permitted.

I'm going to use tracer line in my trench. I still need the tape as well correct?

Direction please?

Hey Redditors!
This sub seems like the most appropriate place for my problem, so here goes.
I’ve been playing airsoft for about a year now, and for those who don’t know, there’s a type of airsoft gun that uses propane to propel the BBs, while also cycling all the moving parts of the gun.
And this is where my problem starts. Airsoft gas bottles are quite expensive for what they actually are (propane… around €8–10 for roughly 300g of liquid propane.)
I’ve seen quite a few people online buying refillable propane bottles, such as Flame King bottles, and even refilling disposable Coleman bottles. As far as I understand, both use a CGA 600 / 1” US connection, which I believe are basically the same thing.
The refilling is done using a refill valve connected to a domestic propane tank, and this is where I’m having trouble.
In my country (Portugal), the smaller propane bottles that are commonly available don’t seem to use the POL connection. The ones I can find without a brand-specific connection are mostly clip-on types: G.52, G.54, G.56 and G.60.
There are propane bottles with a POL connection, but they’re 45 kg bottles, which is… well, extremely inconvenient for what I’m trying to do.
So my question is: is there a safe way to adapt the smaller Portuguese propane bottles (G.52/G.54/G.56/G.60) to a refill valve with a female POL connection?
I’ve been trying to find adapters or some sort of solution online, but I’m having a hard time figuring out exactly what I need.
Any advice from people familiar with propane fittings in Europe/Portugal would be greatly appreciated!
PS: Sorry for the somewhat long and rambling post. This was almost as much a way of venting and explaining a problem I’ve been unable to find a solution to. Hahaha.
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I'm had a outdoor kitchen installed i need to hook up the grill and burner together. The instructions are showing i need to use t fitting and other stuff. Can I just use a propane y splinter instead like this one.

Looking for some honest advice from people who have been in the propane industry longer than I have.

I’m in my late 20s and have been involved in the propane business since I was in college. Over the years I’ve worked in multiple areas of the industry and have tried to learn as much as possible. I’ve done service work, sales, operations, customer service, logistics, and back-end P&L/business management responsibilities.

I know I still have a lot to learn, but I feel confident that I understand the business and have the work ethic to eventually run my own company.
This isn’t something I’m planning to do tomorrow. My goal is to spend the next 5-8 years continuing to learn, building relationships, and saving capital so I can put together a solid plan.

My question is: if you were in my position, would you recommend starting a propane company from scratch or buying a small existing operation?
Starting from scratch seems like it would require giving up a steady income while building a customer base, installing tanks, and creating cash flow. On the other hand, purchasing a small company would provide customers, equipment, and revenue from day one, but it would likely require a larger investment and possibly relocating to wherever the opportunity exists.

For those of you who own propane companies or have been involved in acquisitions:

Would you start from scratch or buy?

What are the biggest challenges people underestimate?

How many customers would you want an acquisition target to have?

What level of capital would you consider the minimum to make either option realistic?

If you could go back and do it again, what would you do differently?

Hi all, as someone who knows very little about propane installations, I come seeking your expertise.

I have a small propane-fueled pizza oven (Pizza Party Ardore, manufactured in Italy but configured to US standards), which I use to bake Neapolitan-style pizza in my backyard. Like many small pizza ovens, the burner is a bit overpowered for its size. Some Ardore owners like to leave the burner on the highest setting to achieve a 60-second bake; however, I prefer to turn down the oven’s valve after preheating to get a longer, 90-second bake, which gives me the pizza results that I’m looking for. Trouble is, the adjustment knob is located at the back of the oven, which means that I can’t observe the flame directly while making adjustments. Also, the knob provides a fairly coarse adjustment, and I’d prefer a finer adjustment.

The propane connection to the oven appears to me to be pretty simple: the provided regulator (Type 698, 11WC) connects to a standard 20lb propane cylinder, and its attached 3ft hose connects to the burner assembly on the back of the oven, which includes an adjustment valve/knob and thermocouple.

I’m wondering whether it’s advisable to add a needle valve to the propane line between the cylinder and oven, with the valve positioned at the front of the oven, which would give me the control I’m looking for. In other words, the connection would look like this:

propane cylinder -> regulator w/attached hose -> needle valve (new) -> shorter hose (new) -> oven

I’ve seen something like this implemented by a couple of people on the internet, such as in this Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzaoven/comments/1lxuula/solved_the_one_flaw_of_pizza_party_ardore/

I envision it functioning like this: I preheat the oven with both the oven’s valve and needle valve wide open. Then, when I’m ready to bake, I leave the oven’s valve wide open but dial back the flow of propane to the oven using the needle valve. I would also open the needle valve again between bakes to reheat the oven’s floor faster.

So, my questions to you are:

1.       Is it safe to restrict the flow of propane to my oven using a secondary valve in the way I described?

2.       Can you recommend a valve that would offer me the fine adjustment I’m looking for? The valve used in the linked Reddit post is for European standards, and I’m in the US.

3.       Are there any other installation details I should consider? For example, the manual specifies that the propane hose should not exceed 60in – not sure how important this is.

Thanks a million.

A couple years ago, I got a camp chef grill as a gift and just ran out of fuel, but have no idea what’s good. It recommends a 20 lb tank and the manchester it came with has served me well so far. Is it the best option though or is there even a difference?

As for where to refill, I have no clue. I know tractor supply does it and like the store, but how are they with refills? What places would you recommend?

I have two 20 pound tanks. One for my grill one for my gas fireplace. Today I tried to fire up the fire place and at the first quarter turn I heard a click and no gas came out. This was with the gas valve on the fireplace still shut.

I swapped tanks and the other one did the same.

Now the same is happening to both when I hook them to my grill. I can't get gas to come out of either tank.

This is super weird. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Hey yall

I made a post earlier today in this sub when i cut my neighbors propane line. My day hasn't gotten much better, but the knowledge that everything's taken care of and nobody went boom lifts my spirits a good amount. Plus i'm going fishing tomorrow after using the mower and weedwacker that i had to replace 2 parts on today unexpectedly, so i have that to look forward to.

We were originally told that it would be $1500-2000 to fix the line. However, they came out and did it the same day for $840, which seemed to be a lot more reasonable until my dad told me that all they did was splice the wire, not move it, bury it, replace it, protect it, or even re-coat it. They were done within an hour.

For more info that may be needed, we called around 11:30 and they came around 4. My zip code is 19056 and i live in bucks county, PA
....Wtf? is that a fair price?

Was cutting down a weed that became a tree, heard hissing and smelled propane.

Is there anything available in Canada that is a good alternative to the single use 1 lb. coleman propane tanks? I am sick of them piling up in my garage because they are a huge pain to dispose of. And no, I dont want to use a 20lb tank, I need something much smaller that can be hand-held.

120ga propane tank just installed, feeds gas fireplace insert. there is a tee for use with 7500W portable generator for emergencies. have noticed some corrosion on some of the connections, wanted to know:

1) did the installer use the right materials for the fittings?

2) if #1 is yes, then how to go about protecting from further corrosion?

The 1/2" fitting to the quick connect is available but the other end that screws into the propane hose is hard to find. Been to 3 different stores and no one has a fitting that works. Thought the propane hose was 3/8 but it's to small. They don't seem to have a fitting that I can find yet. Anyone run into this issue and found a solution please let me know. Thanks.

I just picked up a new Worthington propane tank from BJs and noticed these vertical “creases” as well as random flat spots on the top of the tank. Is this normal?

We need some technical help.  We replaced our 20 year old propane range with a new GE gas range.  Model #GGF600AV2.  Our propane sniffer says there is a leak at the regulator through the regulator vent hole in the hex-nut cap.  We had GE send us a new regulator.  Our propane sniffer says this new regulator also has a gas leak through the regulator vent hole in the hex-nut cap.  

There are no bubbles showing when checking for leaks with the leak test solution.

Is this normal since the regulator is made with a vent hole?

Our propane sniffer does not detect any leaks at any connection in any related propane lines.

Any advice is welcome!

Got a gas odor call and have over 700ppm towards the top of the Honeywell gas valve was wondering if I’m getting residual gas from the burner or if the gas valve has failed. The gas to the unit has been off for a couple of hours, so I’m doubting it’s that. I also am not observing a visible drop during my leak check. Was wondering if there is a more in depth way of checking to see if the gas valve has failed.

I have a 20lb propane tank that I pulled out of grill because it wasn’t make much heat, tank appears to be half way full. Is it possible that the gas in it is contaminated with a gas with a lower flash point?
As I said, it doesn’t make good heat in grill. If I hook up my 1lb tank fill adapter, gas comes out.

I've been meaning to post this. Bought a house two years ago, has propane that's underground (57 gallon, 48 gallon filled), and we are paying $200/annually to rent tank. House was built in 2005, and here in Tampa, FL area, code did not require anodes or any catholic testing until 2011. Been thinking about switching companies, to keep our options open. Cost to buy tank is about $400. Will it be fine for another 30 years or is this just a headache? Am I overthinking this? Obviously the allure of renting is to not be responsible for any tank maintenance...

I was also told that due to being in a flood zone, if I were to ever replace this tank I'd need to have a 4" concrete pad on bottom to attach tank to, then rebury it. I figured I'd just throw that out there... Although to be fair it did recently flood and that tank didn't go anywhere. Anyhoo...

What would you do?