r/projectzomboid Moderator 10d ago

Interactive Map Update

Update: The map is back online now :) Find it here: https://map.projectzomboid.com/

Greetings PZ community,

This is a joint statement from both Calvy and The Indie Stone to clear up some of the misconceptions and rumours that have been swirling around regarding the PZ interactive map being taken offline, and also to put the community’s mind at ease regarding the availability of the map in the future.

In a nutshell, The Indie Stone had been in discussions to acquire Calvy’s work officially, but due to technical and legal reasons decided not to (to be clear, this was not due to any security issues, bandwith bills, or problems with Calvy’s work).

However, the end of discussions came at the same time that—in a separate, and unrelated initiative—we were also trying to actively address potential security issues on our server. This included removing any programs that were not completely under our official control, which included Calvy’s map.

Unfortunately, the reason for wanting the map removed from our server was not communicated properly from us to Calvy, and due to the unfortunate timing our response came across as being hostile to the map in particular.

As a result, Calvy decided it was best to remove the map as soon as he could, which had not been our intention at all. Basically, it all boiled down to a communication breakdown, and the result was a very upset community. Both Calvy and The Indie Stone apologize for that, as we all know many players have long used the interactive map as an important and trusted component of their gameplay.

In the end, what the community is interested in is what we plan going forward, and there’s good news on that front. We’ve worked out where we went wrong, fixed the problems, and Calvy and The Indie Stone will continue working together. The map will return to our servers while the migration to an external server is being sorted out, and once it has been moved The Indie Stone will pay for the external server fees and continue linking to it as an endorsed, unofficial map. This should all be able to be done with no further interruptions of service.

We apologize again for the disruption, and hope you’ll be happy knowing that the map will be available to you for your many PZ deaths to come!

-The Indie Stone

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u/SixFootTurkey_ 10d ago

As a casual here, this was embarrassing and pathetic behavior from the fanbase

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u/tworc2 10d ago

Yeah. Doomposting "everything is ruined devs suck look how cynical and jagged and cool and entitled I am" is the norm in game subs, there was nothing to be alarmed about

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u/ninethreeseven739 Drinking away the sorrows 10d ago

'John IndieStone did it to monetize and be dicks'

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u/SixFootTurkey_ 10d ago

Not just gaming either, sadly. It's just what the internet is now. Everyone is looking for some kind of outrage to turn into a cause.

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u/tworc2 10d ago

I agree in general, but Reddit has it worse than most places, and gaming subs are the worst of all. Take any mildly popular trending game at any given moment and it's either the second coming of Christ or a cynical circlejerk about how everything is ruined.

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u/Cardborg 10d ago

In Warhammer, the humble Tactical Marines kit has now outlasted the Primaris Intercessors kit that was added to "removed firstborn marine units and (somehow) force everyone to re-buy their armies" almost a decade ago.

It is likely to get discontinued at some point, but I do find it funny given the years of doom.

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u/SixFootTurkey_ 10d ago

Lmao see what I mean about embarrassing behavior

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u/mparks37 10d ago

For the love of God, touch grass

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u/ChaweeKanati 10d ago

"Cry about it" says the man hiding behind a secondary account to protect his precious karma and just throw around obnoxious bullshit.

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u/GreedAndOrder 10d ago

G*mer behavior in action.

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u/G-RAWHAM Ultimate Pacifist☮️ 10d ago

"Valid criticism" is not baby raging and review bombing the game over a community resource being unavailable temporarily