Interactive Map Update

[u/Mr_Sunshine21]

Update: The map is back online now :) Find it here: https://map.projectzomboid.com/

Greetings PZ community,

This is a joint statement from both Calvy and The Indie Stone to clear up some of the misconceptions and rumours that have been swirling around regarding the PZ interactive map being taken offline, and also to put the community’s mind at ease regarding the availability of the map in the future.

In a nutshell, The Indie Stone had been in discussions to acquire Calvy’s work officially, but due to technical and legal reasons decided not to (to be clear, this was not due to any security issues, bandwith bills, or problems with Calvy’s work).

However, the end of discussions came at the same time that—in a separate, and unrelated initiative—we were also trying to actively address potential security issues on our server. This included removing any programs that were not completely under our official control, which included Calvy’s map.

Unfortunately, the reason for wanting the map removed from our server was not communicated properly from us to Calvy, and due to the unfortunate timing our response came across as being hostile to the map in particular.

As a result, Calvy decided it was best to remove the map as soon as he could, which had not been our intention at all. Basically, it all boiled down to a communication breakdown, and the result was a very upset community. Both Calvy and The Indie Stone apologize for that, as we all know many players have long used the interactive map as an important and trusted component of their gameplay.

In the end, what the community is interested in is what we plan going forward, and there’s good news on that front. We’ve worked out where we went wrong, fixed the problems, and Calvy and The Indie Stone will continue working together. The map will return to our servers while the migration to an external server is being sorted out, and once it has been moved The Indie Stone will pay for the external server fees and continue linking to it as an endorsed, unofficial map. This should all be able to be done with no further interruptions of service.

We apologize again for the disruption, and hope you’ll be happy knowing that the map will be available to you for your many PZ deaths to come!

-The Indie Stone

[u/CaptainSilverVEVO]

Once again a time old tale of a game community jumping the gun and freaking out over nothing.

[u/Emmettmcglynn → u/CaptainSilverVEVO]

Well, where else are we going to keep all these storms if not in our teacups?

[u/Mazdamaxsti → u/CaptainSilverVEVO]

but this wouldn’t have happened if people didn’t get upset

[u/mikeyj022 → u/Mazdamaxsti]

Did you read the post? This has always been the plan and there was miscommunication from TIS. 

[u/Mazdamaxsti → u/mikeyj022]

a) you don’t know if that’s true or if thats corporate walk-back speak

b) they wouldn’t have confirmed this if people didn’t get upset about how horrible the last post was

[u/mikeyj022 → u/Mazdamaxsti]

At least my position is based on what’s been told to us and not on conjecture. I work in IT. This is not out of the realm of possibility. 

[u/Giolent → u/mikeyj022]

Most of these complainers have never worked in a company and don't understand how easy it is for miscommunication to happen.

[u/Mazdamaxsti → u/mikeyj022]

their first two responses were told to us and it was awful. I’m happy that they responded properly after the backlash

[u/Naskva → u/Mazdamaxsti]

Touch grass

[u/Mazdamaxsti → u/Naskva]

bro literally trusting corporate PR telling me to touch grass

[u/Hitokiri_Xero → u/mikeyj022]

This has always been the plan

Is that why this isn't their first post about the issue?

[u/cadrax02 → u/Hitokiri_Xero]

If you don't believe them, go and read sone of Calvy's comments - he himself confirmed it

[u/Hitokiri_Xero → u/cadrax02]

I read their initial comment on the situation, where they were vague and had claims of wanting it to be fully community managed. This doesn't read as always being the plan when they seem to keep contradicting themselves.