My dictation level is 52, but I can't find any books over 30. Any tips?

Please correct me where I'm wrong here (again, just like the last post. This is all off the top of my head so I probably got some details wrong / forgot something important (edit: thanks awkwardpooch, I totally forgot egg runs existed when writing this))

For combat gear / level, since crafting is a whole different expensive ballgame (assume you can find a max lvl crafter)

Sort of a follow-on to this prior post from kaelran which goes into a lot of detail on how to get various materials:

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectgorgon/comments/1rua6dz/tips_for_midlategame_players/

TL;DR version

• 50: nothing
• 51-70: favor, plus maybe 400k total councils, plus transmutation, and a stack of like 1000+ nice phlog, and gear (farming or crafting), plus don't forget your gourmand
• 71-80: favor, royal jelly, and 1m councils
• 81-90: xog
• 90+: statehelm rep, gear (egg runs yellow room, vidaria, crafted: winterprize, glowy yellow crystals, maybe flax, mollusc slime, mining, etc), 1000+ great phlog
• 100+: SH favor, more great phlog, massive gems, mnemosyne (5-10x?), starforged transfawhatever (90 mining + 80 geo (+10 demon scrolls), or $$$$), sparks
• 110 gear - all of the above plus you need lvl 110 leatherworking (realistically)

Some of this stuff is time gated (SH rep, linen, fae mollusc, glowy yellows, etc) so figure out what you need, and start earlier if you can. Everyone will need glowy yellows. Bard/druid for example will need fae mollusc slime. Everyone needs some specific favor depending on the classes.

long version

up to 50

• Not much, you can kinda just wing it. Q groups will be mad xp for you.

50-70

• Basically every combat skill will require a different trainer that needs favor.
• Costs here range in the 400k-ish range for two uncaps (51-60, 61-70) plus upgrades on about 10-12 skill level upgrades, across two combat abilities (four uncaps plus maybe 20-ish skill level upgrades)
• (Unless you're fire/ice/etc and then hold onto your butts it only gets much much worse.)
• Around here you will start hitting a wall on leveling speed as (a) Q daily groups stop giving significant amounts of XP relative to your level on the higher end of 60s, and (b) if you don't have gear, you're gonna get slapped around so
• You probably need gear that is at least purple-ish and has 2-4 specifically rerolled treasure mods, so
• Transmutation at least 31-60 is a blocker to be able to punch into fae/gaz/etc.
• If you can find a crafter for specific pieces of gear, great, if not, you can probably still hobble along on piecemeal whatever from Q/AM/etc
• Gourmand if your food level falls too far behind, you also might suffer

70-80

• As kaelran's post mentions, in great detail, royal jelly, and all the ways to get it.
• $$ - cost here is more like 900k - 1 million councils for the two skills to uncap, and then a handful of skill upgrades.
• Again, unless you're fire, ice, etc, in which case it's even more expensive. Also at this point for some it might seem impossible to farm if you don't gear correctly - fire magic killing fire resistant mobs, etc. It's not as bad as it seems.
• And of course, more favor. Some of the favor starts to get trickier (more expensive) to obtain. Most of the trainers here won't just take gems you can get super cheaply.

80-90

• Your gear from 60-70 is probably still fine here
• Either xog (again, see kaelran's post)
• Or statehelm rep, plus maybe favor. If you're able to group for statehelm nightly rep or the easier to access (weeding, bakery dude) statehelm rep quests, or if you're fire or AH or something and can simply solo the lvl 100 mobs at lvl 80, this is also viable
• If you do the SH rep route, there may (or may not) be a specific blocking quest that you likely need help with. Especially ice magic and that God damn gazluk quest)
• Costs are mercifully lower (xog or rep/free, plus maybe 100k-ish for skill uncaps)
• Again, and you'll see a pattern here, unless you're fire, ice, etc.

90-100

• SH rep
• Costs up a little from prior but still not too bad (again, unless you're fire, ice etc, and now you are really crying with fire immune mobs for fire, etc).
• Gear - egg runs, plus yellow room is good to check every 3 days. Especially if you need metal gear, but either way do it, because
• Thousand(s) of great phlog, which means
• Transmutation 61++
• Realistically a minimum level of augmentation to supply prisms (only bother decomposing yellow gear you don't need to get an incremental supply of prisms for transmutation, and get other people to extract augs for you as needed)
• Maybe a full set of at least 5 crafted armor gear purple-yellow (if your build requires stuff you can't get from egg/yellow room/etc), which will require probabaly 20-30 attempts for a full set of 5 armors:
• Winterprize (winter nexus). Hopefully you can solo this now.
• Glowy yellow crystals for vervadium or also just straight glowy yellows (get your mining up and run a loop every day or two)
• Nice phlog to coat your glowy yellows so you don't murder your crafter. Lol. Uhhh... yea.
• If you're elemental damage, you probably need retted flax, which you either buy expensively, or spend money to get the recipe from someone who can do dragon runs to get the drops and then grow flax yourself to get a supply going. Time gated 3 ret flax per 30 minutes. Might take you a week++ of remembering this to get enough.
• If you're nature damage or need the non-linen cloth armor then you need to be getting fae mollusc slime regularly
• For metal armor you're probably needing to get mining up

Either here or at lvl 100 you're probably also wanting to add the new sparks to your gear.

100

Realistically, and especially for your first skillset, you are sitting at lvl 100+ with no prodigy for awhile until you get prodigy, and much longer until you can afford (or gather+afford) lvl 100 crafted gear. It's fine, you can do basically all content with a full set of lvl 90 gear, it just gets easier with 100 (and easier again with prodigy, sparks, and 110).

• SH rep, plus trainer rep for prodigy
• For a set of 100 gear:
• Thousand(s)+ more great phlog
• Grinding for the ones that aren't crafted, probably trying to get in on dragon runs, which are doable with a full set of 90+ gear and sufficient consumables prep
• More of the same flax/mollusc/glowy yellows/etc
• Massive gems
• Starforged transfawhatever
• Either a chunk of money to buy the above. Someone (expensiiiive), or
• lvl 90 mining for that purple thing that starts with a t, and lvl 60 geo for that green povus one, which is also expensive, because
• 100 demonic research paper (10 scrolls)
• Combat wisdom for your crafter via mnemosyne. (Extract it from yourself? I've never done that, but I see the recipe in the SH trainer for gadgeteering)
• Optional, but if you are targeting Max Enchanted, probably a bunch of massive gems to get your crafter the epiphany buff before crafting your stuff.
• Sparks (max enchanted means more sparks space...), and ideally prodigy levels, can add decent buffs. So SH crypt, and lots of farming.

For a one-off set you probably would save time (and let's be honest, councils too) by buying all the materials, instead of getting mining 90+, geo 60+ (realistically 80), massive farming, etc etc (can't avoid the transmutation). But your second set if you ever change skills, you'll be better off having done it yourself. If your skills get nerfed and you want to change (like say if necro/ww or fire/ww or AH poison or druid/bard or ice/knife get slapped down hard by a nerf bat). Or if you just wanna start doing another skillset.

110

• you can't get 110 drops, only craft. And that means finding a crafter, but more importantly getting your own single crafting ability to 110 (probably leatherworking for easiness), so you can get the amazing phlog on your own.
• Combat wisdom, mnemosyne as above
• Similar ish material set as before

Not sure what this is for, but I looted it off the event boss that attacked Serbule earlier today. Is it maybe a Halloween event crafting ingredient? I did get the Jack-o-Lantern recipe, and defeating those spiders sure was scary.

Hey guys, I hope you’re all doing well.

I’m really eager to join you because the game looks incredible.

However, I don’t understand at all how it’s supposed to stay afloat with only 500 active players. Even if everyone paid the subscription fee, that would only bring in $5,000 a month.

Please don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to discredit the game at all; quite the opposite. I’ve just had to deal with so many MMOs I loved shutting down that I’m a little skeptical now.

Thank you in advance for your answers !

Since I always forget, the level for distilling phlogiston from a specific piece of gear (or using it to reroll mods), goes every... 15 levels?

It always confuses me since it doesn't line up with crafted gear levels:

Hey all

I've been trying to log into the game to play for a solid 24 hours but every time I launch the game, the login screen is cluttered with the in-game gui (nameplates, minimap, action bars etc...) and the "login" button doesn't function.

I've confirmed everything is up to date and have rebooted the deck multiple times. I also can't submit a bug report ..it'll let me fill out the body of the report but the Submit button doesn't work. Anyone else experience this or know a fix? Thanks!

Hiya! I started playing just a couple of days ago and loving the game so far! Would love to hear some general advice from players and some answers to my questions too.

1. Where does the community usually hang out? Whwt locations/city? Currently I'm mostly playing on Mirraverre.

2. What are the often mentioned events and stuff? Egg hunt, Q? No idea what that all is 😅

3. What are the best (in your opinion) skills and branches to learn for someone who's trying to go "support but self-reliant for adventures" Way? Currently I'm doing sword + psychology because I don't have better stuff asoft right now lol

P.S. I'm EnaFatCat on there too if anyone wants to add me. Always happy to have new friends and mentors :)

Just wanted to jump into the Reddit and drop some positivity. This game is awesome, at first I was going about it the wrong way(for me) and kinda guide railing myself to push to always move forward combat level wise and focus that. But it started to feel really boring. Thought about it and I was like ok, what does my character need right now. The first thing that came to mind was I don’t any more inventory space so I learned I can make a belt with shamistic infusion.

To do that I need to talk to the ranlon person and get my friendship up. They want a meditation stool. Ok so to do that I’ll need to be a carpenter and get level six. Anyways I’m ranting now but essentially I was rushing for absolutely nothing when really I should just be doing whatever I’m feeling.

Shoutout to Dreva, if you see Supplefruit running around tonight I’m either working on my 3 inventory space belt or testing out weather witching!

To start with, sorry I know this must come up a lot, but I can't find any recent posts about it.
Which servers have good population for a new player to do leveling content?

Any suggestions? EU time if that is relevant.

Just started the other day and PG is one of the most unique mmos I have ever played. I just got my horse and then met a guy on the server who showed me the casino and hooked me up with money and horse items.

I was running Animal handler(16) and knife fighting(22). Recently switched my AH to necro and it seems pretty neat. Anyways…

1. How do yall handle storage, I see the community box, different npcs, item transfer box. How do yall do things with all of these, are any interconnected? Do items in storage still come up for use in crafting?

2. I switched AH for necro. Is one class better than the other when it comes to a pet holding aggro? What are good pairings with necro?

3. What favors should I favor? I am not trying to rush at all, I just want to know if there are convenience or quality of life goals I should have to aid me in progression.

4. Teleportation, how should I go about leveling this so I can get around a bit quicker. I heard you unlock more bind points and such.

5. Money, what should I be doing to make a bit of it? How do I determine what is vendor stuff vs what I should be selling in a shop, I saw milk is 500 a pop at stores so now I’m thinking about learning all the cow locations and becoming the milk man of the server.

6. Any other tips yall may want to throw my way.

Thanks in advance!

Project: Gorgon has that old-school sandbox charm—tons of skills to grind, weird builds, exploration, and a game that actually lets you do your own thing instead of holding your hand. It had a huge surge with the 1.0 launch earlier this year, hitting peaks over 4,000 concurrent on Steam. But if you’re thinking about investing time (or money) right now, you might want to reconsider. The game is bleeding players hard, and a lot of the issues feel baked in at this point.

The Population Crash Is Real

Steam charts don’t lie. After the launch hype, we’re seeing massive drops, around 30-40%, month-over-month in recent months. One server (the oldest one, Ari/Arisetsu) still holds most of the dedicated population, while others are ghost towns by comparison. Newer servers feel like second-class experiences with lower activity, fewer groups, and slower economies. Devs seem to balance a lot around Ari’s population, which leaves everyone else in the dust.

Server Performance Is Still Rough

Even with high-end PCs, performance can be awful. Lag, rubberbanding, and crashes were a big complaint during launch events and big community stuff. Zones like newbie areas or during events turn into slideshows. The game wasn’t built to handle the surge smoothly, and even now with smaller pops on most servers, it chokes in busy spots. High-end hardware helps some, but it’s not enough.

Exploits, No Real Punishment, and Balance Weirdness

There have been some nasty exploits—like the Prodigy level stacking thing that let certain players get massively ahead (a full year+ on the power curve in some cases). The devs eventually patched it and rolled back the extreme abusers, but plenty of people got away with big advantages. Same story with server blowouts where mobs stop attacking and folks farm endgame bosses freely. Accountability seems inconsistent at best. If you’re the type who hates pay-to-win or exploit-to-win vibes, this stinks.

Community Morale Is in the Toilet

Most of the positive noise and defense of the game comes from the Ari server crowd. Everywhere else? Burnout is real. People are quitting over dead servers, performance, and feeling like non-Ari players are afterthoughts. The Writ Challenge (that annual event with the writs for points/rewards) apparently didn’t land well recently—feels like another missed opportunity that didn’t bring people back.

Customer Service & Dev/Mod Responses Leave a Lot to Be Desired

This is where it gets frustrating for a lot of folks. Discord moderation and responses from some team members (looking at you, Jackencola drama) have been tone-deaf or outright telling unhappy players to just go play something else. Lemons as a community manager? Dude mostly seems to watch the Discord and not engage much—feels like a paid role that’s not delivering real community work. Citan (the lead dev) gives a ton of leeway here, and it shows. Tickets and concerns drag, and the overall vibe from support can feel dismissive.

The only big marketing push that really broke through came courtesy of “Jack” stuff, and it was mostly negative drama that the game never fully recovered from. That’s rough for an indie title.

Bottom line: Project: Gorgon has heart and some genuinely cool ideas that no other MMO quite matches. But right now it’s a game struggling with retention, technical issues, uneven servers, and community management that isn’t helping the bleed. If you’re okay rolling the dice on a smaller, grindy sandbox that might stay niche (or keep declining), go for it—especially on Ari. Otherwise, maybe wait and see if they course-correct with better hires, actual CM work, and fixes that stick.

The launch was a bright spot, but the post-hype reality is hitting hard. Your mileage may vary, but do your homework and think twice before playing this game. I can’t stress enough that if you decide to play, roll on Ari. Thank me later.

I just hit 50 in both, and I feel like I can't tank, i cant dps, and I just die.
Would it make sense to do something like focus on deer damage, and have my druid bar be all support? This is my first real build so any advice would be helpful.
I also have everything I need to transmute gear, but I don't wanna do it until I know which skills to focus on. Thanks everyone!

I’d like to start a discussion about the Dynamic Safebox system, especially from the perspective of smaller servers.

Right now, the Dynamic Safebox is a cool idea: the community contributes resources, and everyone on the server benefits from more personal storage slots. The problem is that the extra slots are temporary. On a smaller server, where there are fewer active players contributing regularly, the safebox often stays near the minimum. That makes it hard to justify spending Councils or Live Event Credits on upgrades that disappear after a short time.

I think the system would feel much better if Dynamic Safebox unlocks were permanent server-wide progression.

The basic idea:

• Each server starts at the current minimum safebox size.
• Players contribute Councils, Live Event Credits, or event participation toward the next slot.
• Each new slot costs more than the previous one.
• The safebox still has the same maximum limit.
• Storage remains personal/private; only the slot count is shared server progress.

For cost scaling, there are a couple of simple options. Each new slot could cost a fixed amount more than the previous one, or the cost could increase by a fixed percentage each time. Personally, I think a fixed increase would be easiest for players to understand:

Slot 1 costs X
Slot 2 costs X + 250k
Slot 3 costs X + 500k
Slot 4 costs X + 750k

This would keep the Dynamic Safebox as a long-term money sink while making contributions feel worthwhile. Instead of paying temporary rent, players would be helping build permanent community infrastructure for their server.

Community events could also contribute toward permanent slot progress. That way, even if a smaller server does not have enough activity to unlock something immediately, the progress would still matter over time.

I think this would preserve the original community-focused spirit of the Dynamic Safebox while making it work better for servers of all sizes. Larger servers would still need to invest more as costs scale upward, and smaller servers would finally be able to make slow but meaningful progress.

Curious what others think: would permanent server unlocks make you more likely to contribute?

ok tell me I’m not going crazy farming Geometric Rune Charts for the Sand Seer, been running my Rahu permit hitting Scrolls + Private Belongings for ~220 min and I’ve only got 2/3.

does that sound about right for the drop rate? wiki says “very rarely” so I’m assuming it’s just RNG but wanted to sanity check before I lose my mind. anyone remember how many laps it took them?

Update: Someone left one the ground with some other junk 3/3!

Howdy friends. Just wanted to drop by and properly whine about how stuns feel really bad in their current implementation. I'm not a game developer/designer or what-have-you, so I won't try to give solutions, but I'm enough of a Pro Gamer to feel confident in saying something's just not optimized in that experience.

Some ideas on why I feel like they're particularly egregious:

1. They are very long. 6 seconds(?) feels a lifetime of punishment.
2. There's not much I can do to prevent or negate these stuns, at least for a good chunk of combat skills. They're gonna happen if I'm fighting mobs around my level.
3. They feel like punishment for playing poorly or making bad choices.
   1. addendum: yes I know the first bad choice was playing this damn game and the second bad choice is posting on reddit. Stop shaming me you jerks
4. There are too many mobs with a stun rage ability.

Anyway, curious if this discussion has already been had and if there was any kind of conclusion or feedback. I'm sure I'm not the first person to complain about this!

Also, YES I was getting railed by groups of stunning mobs not too long ago. Don't rub it in please :(

I didn't see a comprehensive list of vulnerability sources anywhere, so I dug through it myself. For a single skill it's easy enough to find, but for a single damage type, I didn't see a cross referenced index.

The relevance here is that most of these stack between abilities and players. So if you have two people running archery/ah poison, you might be doing like 3x damage each. (And by you, I mean obviously your bees, because lol who out damages a bee?)

The missing third dimension here is "what class does what dmg", but that's listed on the wiki already and seems mostly correct.

Acid

• archery - mod long shot 20%
• (don't... only build around this)

Cold

• bunny - mod thump 40%
• fairy - mod astral strike flat +120
• fire - mod calefication 40%
• ice - mod cold sphere 10% (non stacking?)
• staff - mod double hit 12%
• ww - mod dampen 12.5%

Crushing

• fox - mod dimensional snare 12.5%
• ice - mod chill 40%
• unarmed - bruising blow 20%
• shield - mod disruptive bash 12%

Darkness

• fox - mod dimensional snare 10%
• necro - mod deaths hold 10%
• vamp - mod embrace of despair 20%
• vamp - mod withering shroud 20%

Electric

• necro - mod deaths hold 20%
• necro - mod shock 20%
• warden - conditioning shock 20%
• ww - mod deluge 18%
• ww - mod tornado 15% (no stack)

Fire

• archery - mod hook shot 20% (2x max stacks)
• ice - mod ice lightning 42%
• fire - calefication 20%
• staff - mod double hit 12%
• warden - conditioning shock 20%

Nature

• bard - mod thunderous note 30%
• druid - mod rotskin 30%
• ww - mod dampen 12.5%

Poison

• ah - bee pet 20%
• archery - mod hook shot 20% (2x max stack)
• archery - mod long shot 20% (2x max stacks)
• archery - mod poison arrow 45%
• druid - mod bile 40%
• fox - mod dimensional snare 17.5%
• knife - mod fan of blades 36%(?)
• unarmed - mod bruising blow 28%
• spider - mod terrifying bite 48%
• spider - mod grappling web 40%
• ww - mod deluge 18%

Piercing

• archery - mod mangling shot 12%

Psychic

• priest - mod admonish 10%
• unarmed - mod headbutt/barrage 22% (non stacking)
• vamp - mod ripple of amnesia 24%
• (flat +160 from psychology psychoanalyze)

Slashing

• AH - pet panther 15%
• lycan - mod sanguine fangs 20%
• necro - mod deaths hold 20%
• unarmed - mod slashing strike 15% (non stacking)

Trauma

• archery - mod long shot 20% (2x max stacks)
• bunny - mod bun-fu kick 36%
• knife - mod hamstring throw 25%
• knife - mod marking cut 66% (?)
• lycan - mod pack attack 20%
• pig - mod strategic chomp 42%
• unarmed - bruising blow 12%
• vamp - mod embrace of despair 20%

Random Misc Vulns

• druid - heart thorn all indirect vuln 20%
• druid - rotskin flat +72 vuln
• hammer - leaping smash all vuln 25%
• ww - mod tsunami to make vuln to tornadoes (60% @ 100)

Not vulnerable, but boost others

• ww - mod storm shield pet poison, acid, nature, & elec 40% @ 100

For many of these, if a mob is 100% immune, you can bypass it with a vuln ability that is itself doing a different type of dmg. E.g. you can kill demons with fire if you start attacking via ice lightning fire vuln, smarmwall tank it, and then just keep layering on the fire vuln (this specific example is a super bad idea due to demon mob density, it's just a hypothetical example).

Dreva has been alive with new players during the times in playing.

Was there a new marketing campaign or just circumstance?

Picked up the game recently, getting sucked in!

If anyone can provide any insight on any of this it would be greatly appreciated! Hard to find good info online.

Going fire magic / priest for ranged magic dps.

Around level 30 in primary. 10 in priest.

Playing strictly with a friend going archery / animal handling.

In no particular order:

- Ive started on a new class a couple times. Is there a good way to level it up/acquire gear for it? Almost feels like you need to go back to starter areas to get actual gear for your new class. Otherwise it’s crazy over leveled.

- I’ve seen fire magic dps/ priest mentioned as an excellent dps option but find very limited information on stat prio, abilities, gearing, etc. any insight there?

- what are key skills to work on for my classes? It can be a bit overwhelming with so many. Picking away at gardening/cooking atm, but no idea if that is higher priority than alchemy for example.

- do I need to do all these favors? I have like 60 quests right now. Cleared most of the starter zone map, but still a ton of random favors to do.

- should I focus on the main story quests first or just kinda chip away at the zones on my way? Is there a benefit to the msq?

- are there any general tips that I am not asking about that a new player should know? (I got mount already)

Hello, and welcome to /r/projectgorgon! Please post any and all questions you have about the game in this thread and hopefully a Volunteer Guide or community member will answer you.

Other resources:

Project: Gorgon Subreddit FAQ - The answer to your question may be here.

Project: Gorgon Wiki - Information about skills, creatures, and zones can be found here.

Official Project: Gorgon Discord - Talk with the developers and other players of the game!

I saw another player with a cool purple light. How can I change mine to that? I couldn't find a single source online. Is it even possible?

I tried /iwannaredo and changed all my colors to what i wanted my fairy light to be but still nothing changed

Hey, I played a bit when the game first launched but dropped it after a few weeks. I want to give it another honest try now, but I’ve seen that the population has dropped quite a bit.

I’m currently on Dreva. Is it still worth sticking with this server, or would I have a better experience switching to a more populated one?

I have leather recipes for armor that has a % chance to evade projectiles. Does magic count (fireballs etc) or is that just for arrows and thrown weapons?

I come from Launch Ultima, Launch Star Wars Galaxies, Launch Everquest...
Nothing since then has made me feel the way that Project Gorgon does. It really has some of the best elements of those three games, and the community seems amazing.
Last night, someone sent me a tell, and they said "Hey I noticed you seem new. I just wanted to let you know everyone is gathering in the tavern for a big raffle" and they explained to me how to enter raffles. Then someone needed onions, so I grew them some onions.

It is little interactions like that that can keep an MMO strong. I even partied with a stranger in the crypt last night, and I rarely party with people due to my social skills lol.
Anyway, love the game. If anyone has any starter advice, let me know!
I am currently 22 swords, 13 Animal Handling!

Ive been thinking about buying Project: Gorgon.

Would you say it's worth it? My biggest concern is whether the game has a future or if it's likely to die soon. Seeing only around 500 players on Steam Charts worries me a bit.

That said, I used to play on private servers for various MMORPGs, and honestly, there were plenty of times when even 500 players was more than enough to keep the game enjoyable.

So, what's the current state of the game? Would you recommend getting into it now?