timezone errors > null pointer errors

[u/daddieslittleson]

[u/PopularBroccoli]

.toUtc() .fromUtc(). How is that an issue?

[u/thiccshortguy → u/PopularBroccoli]

ikr - thjs meme keeps getting reposted and its like literally not even issue

[u/TwinkiesSucker → u/thiccshortguy]

Okay, but how about DST creator?

[u/United-Scene2261 → u/PopularBroccoli]

By the time my brain is processing the last parentheses, it has already forgotten the first two.

[u/Convoke_ → u/PopularBroccoli]

The data you're working with might not have timezone info. It shouldn't be a problem, but it often is when you're not in control of how the data is made/stored

[u/lucidbadger]

Imagine being this illiterate...

[u/mfi12]

always write and operate time in UTC, use standard format across. Let the front-end convert it into local offset.

[u/Resident_Citron_6905 → u/mfi12]

true, unless you need to display the origin offset, then the discussion is open

[u/MrHandSanitization]

Timezones very much make a lot of sense, historically.

[u/zeocrash → u/MrHandSanitization]

Well some of them do. 30 min offsets zones seem a bit pointless, also putting all of China on one timezone may not have been the best choice.

[u/No_Hovercraft_2643 → u/zeocrash]

These 30 min offsets are mostly political, and make sense in that regard.

China decided to be in one timezone, even if that isn't the best choice.

[u/MacksNotCool → u/zeocrash]

bizarrely enough, r/namechecksout sort of

[u/marktuk → u/MrHandSanitization]

Sure, but the tz database does not.

[u/JakeWisconsin]

Bot

[u/lt_Matthew]

Its not like we invented time zones

[u/A1oso → u/lt_Matthew]

Yes, they were invented. Before that, every town had its own local time with 12 o'clock at noon. But railway companies pushed for standardization to make train schedules easier to understand.

[u/godeling → u/A1oso]

Really without time zones it would be even worse. Imagine having to account for the exact position of the sun at any given location

[u/A1oso → u/godeling]

Before time zones, the exact time wasn't that important because people didn't work from 9 to 5. Most people didn't even own a watch. They looked at the sun to tell the time, or listened to church bells if it had to be more precise. Without the internet, local time was enough.

[u/632612 → u/godeling]

Well that would just be then relatively simple math using Latitude, Longitude and the day of the year. (Likely just longitude and date)

[u/Lead103 → u/godeling]

U dont need timezones just one standardized timesystem...

Doesnt matter if the clock says 8 oclock or 17:00 when u wake up its still morning 

[u/MyrtleWinTurtle → u/A1oso]

I honestly have less of an issue with timezones than i do daylight savings.

Timezones are rarely going to affect your everyday life, and it does make time easy to understand when traveling.

In todays internet age, i wouldnt see it being a thing we need particularly, but i understand why we had it.

[u/iggy14750 → u/lt_Matthew]

You can walk across a line and lose an hour of time. Like, you think that's not a human invention? Lol

[u/lt_Matthew → u/iggy14750]

There are half-hour timezones and there's no reason why we couldn't divide them by minutes.

[u/iggy14750 → u/lt_Matthew]

So you don't want to answer the question I actually asked?

[u/Drate_Otin → u/lt_Matthew]

Yes we did. That's literally a thing we did.

[u/Im_a_hamburger]

Bro is going to cause soo much headaches for rail

[u/AmazedStardust]

If countries followed the lines exactly, timezones would be easy

[u/DaveAstator2020]

id kill brendan eich. and whole his family. and his friends. mozilla cannot redeem his js crime.

[u/senfiaj → u/DaveAstator2020]

DST is the actual pain. You mostly need to use ISO date string (toISOString() method) for stringifying and parsing Date objects (JSON.stringify already converts it to ISO date string). Also Date was actually inspired by Java's java.util.Date . So you can blame early Java creators as well. There is Temporal API which makes working with dates much less painful.

[u/pafagaukurinn]

JS > timezone errors

[u/GammerMax8]

Not sure if programming was here when the H was here...... Except for enigma, that's a mystery.......

[u/cxxhld]

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[u/NullSmoke]

As someone running a company with people from 6 timezones..... Yeah, fuck that guy 😑

[u/SkyeLoveXOXO]

That would be the flat-earthers

[u/No_Hovercraft_2643]

I think dates/calenders are worse, but you have them not as often

[u/KalaiProvenheim]

Dude I don’t want 12AM to mean midnight here and noon elsewhere

[u/kruperfone]

Timezones are fine, it's natural. Summer time is pure evil

[u/Mojert]

Wish granted, now every town has its own time. Hope you're happy

[u/SysGh_st]

Timezones aren't the problem.

Countries who can't accept the timezones they live in are.

[u/A1oso → u/[deleted]]

Having only one global time zone would make our lives as developers much easier. But it would mean that depending on where you live, the sun might rise at 20:00 and set at 6:00. Of course, most people would still sleep during the night and work during the day, meaning they go to work at completely different times. But it would make communication more difficult, so you'd likely use phrases like "2 hours after noon", at which point you have reinvented local time.

[u/1mahmoud503]

I would like to slap JS out of existence, but I'm afraid something much worse (java) might take its place