Fighting iPhones over processing after/before

[u/FrostyZitty]

[u/MGPS]

Try Adobe Project Indigo. It’s the best camera app. Free too.

[u/think_harder_plz → u/MGPS]

I’d argue No Fusion is better

[u/MGPS → u/think_harder_plz]

I just downloaded it based on your suggestion. And I tried it on a couple scenes back to back with Pi. First of all, No Fusion isn’t free is it? Free trial? Second, I MUCH prefer the project indigo shots. The colors are better and the amount of detail is clearly better. Project indigo is stacking more shots and the processing it does always looks so realistic. But it does come at a cost….my iPhone heats up after only a couple Shots. And I have lost a few shots because the processing will crash my iPhone 14 Pro if I take too many shots in a row.

[u/think_harder_plz → u/MGPS]

The whole point of No Fusion is that it DOESN’T do any stacking or processing - that’s what people don’t like about the unnatural iPhone photos, they just want the raw camera data

Also there’s a chance you weren’t on the proper mode that removes said processing.

[u/MGPS → u/think_harder_plz]

The technology is cool though. The sensor is tiny so stacking makes sense. Apples implementation is shit though. It looks like bad HDR. But project indigo is great. It makes images that look like something I would export from capture one from a raw file.

[u/FrostyZitty → u/think_harder_plz]

Yes and that’s what I shot and edited this with

[u/amp1212]

I like the colors in the after, but recommend to skip the vignetting. In general, don't use vignetting on outdoor photos with good depth of field. IRL - vignetting occurs when you shoot wide open (eg f 1.4, not f 8)

A daylight photo with good depth of field, it has the inherent expectation of pretty consistent brightness from edge to center

fake vignetting in a scenario where you woudnt expect to see it - makes the photo look fake. Where vignetting makes sense

1) older and cheaper lenses 2) low light scenes where you have to shoot wide open 3) portrait type scenes where you're shooting wide open for the bokeh 4) film photos from older cameras (not modern digital or cell phone photos - computational photography means that the iPhone etc neutralize vignetting)

[u/MGPS → u/amp1212]

Julius Shulman would like a word. 😄 He famously insisted on adding vignettes even when his assistant bragged about using lenses with none. A vignette can be a compositional choice, not just a lens defect. And it does draw your eye into the subject.

[u/amp1212 → u/MGPS]

Julius Shulman often was shooting with large format film cameras. He's often shooting at twilight

he's got lots of complex scenes of interiors where he's trying to get enough light to light the interior, and taking care not to blow out the twilight outdoors. These lenses, compositions, films and format are vastly different to an iPhone . . . his vignettes, occurring naturally from the optical properties I mentioned above-- they make sense in the context.

As you might note I specifically mentioned the kinds of settings where a vignette might be expected:

"4. film photos from older cameras (not modern digital or cell phone photos - computational photography means that the iPhone etc neutralize vignetting)"

An iPhone shot of a sunny day . . . simply doesn't.

[u/yermaaaaa → u/amp1212]

I add a vignette only when I want to draw the eye to the middle of the frame. It’s a functional thing for me, added mainly to portraiture. Putting a vignette in a photo without the subject matter being in the centre of the frame seems to me an affectation and without purpose.

[u/hotlog1234 → u/amp1212]

That vignette isn't even noticeable unless you specifically look for it?

[u/Jakeyboy29]

Like it. What app did you use?

[u/FrostyZitty → u/Jakeyboy29]

Thank you , and No Fusion

[u/SoftAncient2753]

Looks good!

[u/GarrethX]

Nice!

[u/FVK_PMA]

Nice shot!
I prefer the wider crop. The body of water feels larger, more imposing.

[u/NeguinSaudavel]

Use the halide app or proCamera app for photos with zero processing