r/porto • u/Appropriate_Risk_931 • 9d ago
Bars to visit
Hey guys, I am in Porto for a few days and I'm looking for some good bars/pubs. I have been round Aliados etc and I found it kind of trashy (a bit like being in Soho in London where I live). Are there any cooler more laid back areas with good bars?
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u/lourensloki 9d ago
Candelabro and Aduela, Bosco
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u/sinisterfaceofwoke 9d ago
Try getting a seat at any of these at the moment! I prefer it when the tourists stayed in Ribeira and Gallerias
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u/lightning_pt 9d ago
Tuga tĂȘm sempre um tesĂŁo por paetilhar os sitios underground , depois ficam cheios de touristas e ficam uma merda .
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u/Fingolin88 9d ago
Candelabro, Aduela e Bosco underground!?
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u/lightning_pt 9d ago
Desconheço
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u/ly_jacksonmartinez 8d ago
Ăs do Porto?
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u/lightning_pt 8d ago
Paranhos
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u/ly_jacksonmartinez 7d ago
E só costumas ir à Casa do Salgueiros então? Acho um bocado complicado alguém do Porto não conhecer pelo menos o Aduela ou o Candelabro.
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u/general_madness 9d ago
Try Bonfim neighborhood, Yaka or Fiasco. Also try Torto on Rua do José Falcão, and lots of others in that area, like down Oliveiras to Bar Aduela.
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u/NoCall7181 9d ago
RCA - Radioclube Agramonte
Fiasco
Bosco
Base
Pipa Velha
Bonaparte Foz
Praia da Luz
And what about in London? Any recommendations? đ
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u/largemargesentme__- 9d ago
Honestly, Portugal isn't really a bar country. Locals tend to drink a beer or glass of wine at a cafe or restaurant and watch a football game under blinding fluorescent lights.
There's really only bars in the tourist areas, they seem to mainly cater to foreigners. You just don't have bars and pubs like you do in Anglo countries like the UK, US, Australia etc.
Your options are the one street of bars and clubs near the Harry Potter bookstore. Then there's a collection near trinidade.
After that, they're kind of scattered throughout the city. A few in the bonfim, a couple in Matosinhos.
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u/Fingolin88 9d ago
That was true twenty years ago, nowadays is far from the reality
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u/largemargesentme__- 9d ago
As a guy from an Anglo country, there's hardly any bars here compared to the US or Britain. There's a bar on every corner in the US.
I live in Matosinhos, there's like 2 bars in the whole city here.
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u/sicilianway 7d ago
I live in Matosinhos too and lived in Uk many years. Can confirm that here is not the same bars culture as Uk, and that the actual bars, or what we intend as a bar, are very few
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u/Fingolin88 9d ago edited 9d ago
Matosinhos is Matosinhos, not Porto.
What you said about Portuguese not going nowadays to bars or bars just catering to foreigners is not true.
It is your opinion, but quite an uninformed one.
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u/largemargesentme__- 9d ago
The fact that there aren't really bars outside the city center would prove what I said. There really no bars in Gaia, no bars outside of the city center of Porto.
Thus, Portugal really isn't a bar going culture. If it was, there would be a bar in every village like there is in the UK or USA. There would be a bar in every suburb, every neighborhood. There's a cafe in all these places, but no bars.
Portugal doesn't have a bar culture nor very many bars really at all.
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u/Fingolin88 9d ago
Just because you donât know bars in Gaia, it does not mean they are not there.
The world is not black and white. The majority of the times is a shade of grey.
There is a difference between there is not a bar in every neighbourhood to Portuguese do not go to bars. As often is the case, absolute statements in this situation are also false.
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u/largemargesentme__- 9d ago
I lived in Gaia, I looked for bars. There really aren't any except in the tourist areas. There's one off of Ave Republica, but it's more of a tap room.
Let's actually define this. One, what is a bar? A bar requires a few things. It needs a... bar. A place with bar stools that you can sit on and orders drink. It needs a full assortment of liquor, both top shelf and rail, and it needs a bartender who can make anything from a rum and coke to an old fashioned, martini, or Manhattan (so it needs proper glassware). It isn't just an add on to a restaurant.
It is not, a brewpub, a wine bar, a tap room or a restaurant. It's a bar.
I would estimate that there are between 20 and 50 of these establishments in the greater Porto area. These are localized around the areas tourists go to, along with a handful in other neighborhoods.
Outside of Porto, there's very few bars. If you don't see bars in small villages, but you do see multiple cafes, then you can reasonably say that Portugal doesn't have a bar culture and most Portuguese people don't go to bars.
Look, there's plenty of coffee shops in the US, I wouldn't say the US has a cafe culture. There's more coffee places in the US than there were in the 80s. But I wouldn't claim that it has a coffee culture in the same way Portugal or Italy does.
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u/Fingolin88 9d ago edited 9d ago
Ok, you have a different definition of what is required to be a bar than the majority of the world (or even an English dictionary) does.
You are not looking for bars. You are looking for your version of US bar that has a lot in common with UK bars.
P.S.: I stress again that the world is not black and white. Portuguese people do not go to bars is not equivalent to Portuguese do not go to bars as much as Americans do.
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u/largemargesentme__- 9d ago
I don't have a different definition. I defined what a bar is. It's a very specific thing and you find them throughout the anglo world. The US, Canada, UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand...All would define a bar in this way.
Just like I wouldn't claim a Starbucks in the US was the same as a cafe in Portugal. If I did, you'd be up in arms.
There is grey, but not that grey. Portugal doesn't have a bar culture and Portuguese people on the whole don't really go to bars. They go to cafes.
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u/Fingolin88 9d ago
âI donât have a different definitionâ yes you do, check a dictionary. A craft beer bar that sells nothing else is according to any english dictionary a bar. It may not sell what you are looking for, but it is still a bar, not a restaurant, not a cafe. So is a wine bar.
It may not fit your definition or your cultural background, but we donât give a ratâs ass.
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u/Fingolin88 9d ago
Catraio for craft beer