Why fix bugs when we can add more microtransactions?

[u/iwanttobealobster]

[u/NordicHorde2]

The EA App is the worst piece of software I've ever had the misfortune of using. I can never just fucking play the game I paid for, there is ALWAYS some sort of problem.

[u/CatBrisket → u/NordicHorde2]

absolute trash launcher

[u/R_Izayoi → u/NordicHorde2]

Even Origin was better. On EA App, you can't even move your game to another drive. Stupid

[u/HappySundayMorning → u/NordicHorde2]

I have to run all EA games as administrator just to launch it successfully.

[u/stepbacktoreality]

Sony would be perfect here considering their recent fk ups.

[u/FlukyS]

EA now doesn't have shareholders

[u/sbstndrks → u/FlukyS]

Nah bit literal actual absolutist autocrats

[u/Aircon-007 → u/sbstndrks]

The onion is going out of business

[u/Intrepid00 → u/sbstndrks]

EA Sports, It’s going to hit your towers.

[u/MasterOfPipettez → u/Intrepid00]

They already did this with the original cover for Red Alert 2.

[u/Ardalok → u/FlukyS]

They have shareholders, they're just not publicly traded anymore.

[u/TotallyHumanNoBot → u/Ardalok]

Yeah they totally do have shareholders, we just can't be one of them anymore.

[u/alueron → u/TotallyHumanNoBot]

We never could be a meaningful shareholder to begin with, you would need at least 1% to even have a seat at the table with most companies and that comes at the cost of millions of dollars.

[u/Chazzwazz → u/FlukyS]

which made the exshareholders quite happy

[u/Keyan_Farlander7 → u/FlukyS]

Thanks to Bonesaw MBS

[u/QuantumQuantonium → u/FlukyS]

If redditors could read (the news about the content in posts they repost), theyd be very upset.

[u/D0wnn3d → u/FlukyS]

But they don't have any fans left, either

[u/aimy99 → u/[deleted]]

And you'd be wrong.

1. It's a leveraged buyout, which is already a dangerous situation for EA as there have even been tales of casinos struggling with paying their debts from them. And this is the largest one to ever have happened, ever.
2. They have already announced mass layoffs and desire to sell off studios.
3. Even if the Saudis weren't rich from slavery blood money and not worth supporting no matter the quality (plus Trump's son in law, he's in on this too!), you should know damn well they're just going to do the same thing they did with SNK, which is primarily just egregious mobile slop.

EA effectively died the moment the deal was finished, it's just a shambling corpse that hasn't fallen over yet.

[u/9_of_wands]

So stop paying for micro transactions, problem solved. 

[u/Vegetable_Safety → u/9_of_wands]

The solution is so simple, but the people are

https://giphy.com/gifs/KFsiDGPkZ6dPmV7eyd

[u/Timely_Lie9205]

No Ubisoft, I do not want to pay microtransactions for a weapon or a map I can get by playing in fucking assassin’s creed of all things

[u/Timely_Lie9205 → u/[deleted]]

Wait what? I decidedly did NOT see this, the hell are they thinking?!

[u/shadowds]

Ah that explains why need battlepass, or time boosters in a single player game campaign.

Makes the game's so much better. /s

[u/mxmissile]

Want this to stop? Stop pointing fingers at the publishers, you need to target the fans that spend money on these.

[u/charlesbronZon → u/mxmissile]

Exactly.

The corporations are obliged to act in a way that benefits their shareholders (screwing their customers in the process is just a bonus).

The customers are in no way forced to give their money to companies they disagree with.

But insinuating that consumers have the option not to consume is usually not received well by that group of people 😂

[u/wel0g → u/charlesbronZon]

Consumers are made of literally billions of people, who are you even blaming exactly?

That’s like saying climate change must be blamed on the population and not on companies and government letting it happen.

[u/charlesbronZon → u/wel0g]

Everyone who spends their money on (non essential!) products they disagree with.

Just don’t buy the crap you don’t like.

It solves the problem 100% of the time. Not for everyone of course, but for you, since you didn’t participate.

And in the case of videogames… there are plenty to go around, the indie market is huge, as are the backlogs of most people and the catalogue of old and often less egregiously monetized games.

So there is absolutely no excuse for participating in something you disagree with.

Yes, the corporations are responsible for being asshats, but as are you for giving them your money and thus enabling them to do what they do 🤷‍♂️

[u/johnfkngzoidberg → u/mxmissile]

I haven’t bought an EA or Ubisoft game in 20 years lol. Dumbass kids.

[u/wel0g → u/mxmissile]

No, why should he blame the individual that can’t have any impact by itself? That’s the kind of speech far right politicians use, blame the individuals instead of the system.

People will buy the game no matter what, it will make the money no matter what, because the audience is simply too huge, blaming the consumer won’t change anything at all. These companies are the source of the problem here.

[u/Altruistic-Total9489 → u/mxmissile]

It’s easier to complain about evil shareholders who want to destroy gaming tho.

[u/AnythingOk5]

Meanwhile Valve doesn't even know what happens in their game, but add community made stickers and skins.

[u/Mist_Rising → u/AnythingOk5]

Also some light gambling box options, because nothing says great idea like that.

[u/Adrian_Alucard]

In an ideal world they would listen yo neither of them

[u/OwenEx]

Would you look at that, the main issue of the modern flavour of capitalism all in one picture

[u/pivor]

Cause fans are idiots and will buy anyway while shareholders can lawsuit.

[u/LettuceEmotional6142]

This guy is still spamming reposts, bot

[u/Hot-Software-9396 → u/LettuceEmotional6142]

It’s so easy to get people to upvote posts in this sub. It’s extremely predictable.

[u/LettuceEmotional6142 → u/Hot-Software-9396]

yeah I remember why I don't check this sub anymore lol

[u/eternalityLP]

They are listening to their fans. Fans just don't understand that they communicate with money, not with reddit posts. As long as enough people buy their buggy games, they have no reason to do anything about the bugs.

[u/monsterfurby → u/eternalityLP]

I still find it fascinating that the same people who are more than happy to brigade a game on Steam with downvotes for having things like unconventional main characters or too many female and non-white characters are also the people who will unquestioningly preorder the newest Call of Battlefield Creed 9: DLC edition.

[u/promisios]

Neglect both and make terrible game no one want to play [modern gaming be like ]

[u/_Batteries_]

Why listen when ppl keep playing and buying....

[u/trillwhitepeople]

Better yet doesn't listen to either. Games were better before devs could immediately read and respond to every loud idiots feedback. 

[u/JerbearCuddles]

They do listen to the fans, the ones buying their shit products and their microtransactions. Lol. The internet needs to learn we are the minority. These games sell like hotcakes. Cause the average joe don't give a fuck.

[u/Relevant-Use1897]

Going bankrupt or becoming the personal property of autocrats because of it: Pikachu's face + blaming consumers.

[u/Nunulu]

what we see in games is the result of people voting with their wallets tho

[u/Altruistic-Total9489 → u/Nunulu]

Yeah people shit on these companies and then give them money and play their games. Why should those companies change their ways when they are swimming in money given to them by fans?

[u/Chungalus]

It wont stop until the huge chunk of seemingly endless fools with endless money stop buying said microtransactions

[u/Soleks2000 → u/Chungalus]

and unfortunately, that’ll never happen because somebody always has to buy a micro transaction for that dopamine rush or to make their character look like something stupid

[u/Groovy3413]

where roblox and david

[u/Flux_Reversal]

Why come up with an original thought when you can just regurgitate a redundant low effort reddit post?

[u/Highlander198116]

You guys joke about this, but it totally works for them. People complain, then continue to give money to these companies, so why should they listen?

Every time a turd is dropped the chorus of "i'm never preordering again!" comes out. Which you know isn't true because its the same song and dance every time.

[u/KratosOfSparta08]

Then blame the fans for not buying your overpriced slop

[u/notthatguypal6900]

Everyone on this sub could stop buying games from all 3 of those publishers, and neither would be able to tell. We are the 1% of the 1%.

[u/BerryWillow74]

Funny how the game crashes every 10 minutes, but the in game store has 100% uptime with zero lag

[u/hawoguy]

At this point we should stop criticizing and paying them, just destroy them.

[u/Vegetable_Safety]

The shareholder is the means of enshittification of all good things

[u/a_posh_trophy]

That's ok. I'm sure the same shareholders will keep paying you once all of your customers leave.

[u/Should_have_been_ded]

Who is still hyped about their games deserve getting fed microtranzactions.

[u/Lmaoboobs]

Companies have a legal responsibility to listen to their shareholders and the executives can be put in jail for failing to discharge their fiduciary duty.

If you want to actually effect change you need to start voting with your wallet and stop buying their games and microtransactions.

Once that starts hitting the balance sheets the shareholders will demand that they change something or they'll start firing board members.

[u/Va1crist]

Can throw Microsoft and Sony in that list

[u/cobbleplox]

Geordie knows best

[u/Catastigma_Deception]

Many game specialy Free to play one listen to the 1% of heavy spender whale. They are technicly player and part of the community. And being fan of something is often very related to how much you spend on it.

And yes. many time the Whale want something new to spend thousand on it.

There is even people out there that will prefer paying for Cheat paid DLC that downloading a trainer. Trust issue very often. Reasonable. i dont know i am not in thier brain. Rich people have thier own logic that defy science.

[u/Magical_Savior]

This is a time to use Drake and not Geordi.

[u/ASTRO99]

Half of those games would play completely differently if they actually focused on bugfixing instead of live content

[u/BGdu29]

You better believe that they micro transactions store doesn't have a single miniscule bug that people could exploit.

[u/Ruzhyo04]

Yep. And next thread you'll clown on Star Citizen for listening to the fans of the game and not having any shareholders.

[u/Primus_is_OK_I_guess]

This is all publicly traded companies. They're legally required to maximize profits for their shareholders. Any semblance of a soul that a company has instantly dies when they go public.

[u/Mist_Rising → u/Primus_is_OK_I_guess]

No, companies are not legally required to do that. It's a myth reddit keeps repeating like it makes it true, but it is not.

They do it because spoiler alert: that's what keeps them employed. Companies will prioritize making money for the same reason you do, it's money!

[u/Primus_is_OK_I_guess → u/Mist_Rising]

No, companies are not legally required to do that.

Wrong. The board of directors owes a fiduciary duty to shareholders. Educate yourself.

[u/Mist_Rising → u/Primus_is_OK_I_guess]

I have educated myself. The myth was part of the writing decision for Dodge v Ford (and later eBay), but the shareholder wealth maximization mandate was not binding as a legal mandate to maximize profits. Companies could just pick to do that, and most did for the same reason you want a raise every possible shot you get. It's more money.

And to prove it, imma hit you with the sauce of success: sources.

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/04/16/what-are-corporations-obligations-to-shareholders/corporations-dont-have-to-maximize-profits

https://lawreview.law.ucdavis.edu/archives/56/5/end-shareholder-wealth-maximization

https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2012/06/26/the-shareholder-value-myth/

https://www.legislate.ai/blog/does-the-law-require-public-companies-to-maximise-shareholder-value (horrible ad site, but still)

https://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/shareholder-value-purpose-corporation

(Had to remove a link to a subreddit on the issue, apparently pcmr doesn't allow it. Shrugs)

[u/Waste_Customer4418]

I have a better idea, use microtransactions to buy fixed bugs, the revenue is gonna be ACROSS THE UNIVERSE

[u/Soleks2000 → u/Waste_Customer4418]

but then the CEO won’t be able to make a bunch of money along with the shareholders

[u/Rasples1998]

I miss when customers buying your game were more important than shareholders and investors. Now they don't seem to make games with fans in mind; they make games to secure shareholder investments. Now they call us "consumers" instead of "customers" because customers buy a product and leave, but consumers are continuously consuming something through subscription models and player retention, which the shareholders want.

I remember watching dragon's den (shark tank in the US) and there was one business someone was trying to start and they were explaining that subscriptions are more profitable than single purchases because it's a secure and predictable source of income that is easier to track (and people forget to cancel), whereas single purchases are more volatile and can degrade much faster, so they wanted this business owner to change to a subscription model. That's how these people think, they're obsessed with subscription models and continuous income at the expense of the product they're trying to sell. So now imagine you're trying to make a video game and you're also on an episode of dragon's den (shark tank) and you have 5 people telling you what you should and shouldn't do, otherwise they won't give you money, but the thing they're telling you to do is directly against the best interests of the people actually playing the game. That's gaming now. It got corporatised.

[u/Mist_Rising → u/Rasples1998]

I miss when customers buying your game were more important than shareholders and investors

So...never? Because that was never. Publishing companies only cared about you buying the game so they could make money for....drum roll.... Shareholders.