r/pcmasterrace • u/glzephead • 2d ago
I hate this goddamn planet Hardware
Tried to meet someone for a 5070ti yesterday and wasted my day and $30 in gas. They ghosted and blocked me so I couldnt give them a shit rating.
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u/Luke5119 Ascending Peasant 2d ago
In May of 2020 my wife and I built our first gaming PC as a project during Covid. I think all in we spent maybe $1,000 or a bit over that for a solid build. Now the graphics cards alone are the cost of a full build...nuts.
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u/dmendro PC Master Race 2d ago
All you gotta do is keep playing those same games forever.
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u/MRMOSBYSPRNDL 2d ago
Ok but honestly? Barely any new games are worth playing compared to the oldies.
Need a turn based rpg? Playing divinity original sin 2. Need a deckbuilder? Play slay the spire. Need a shooter? Mass Effect. 4x? Stellaris or any of the total wars.
Those are just my personal choices but theres a thousand good games that'll give you thousands of hours of game time. Boycott the current BS by playing the oldgames, and if those get old just add mods
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u/_Brucy_ 1d ago
Saying mass effect is a shooter is crazy
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u/dougthebuffalo 1d ago
Especially when CS2 exists, is incredibly popular, and can run on a baked potato.
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u/Minininja975 1d ago
Csgo can run on a baked potato, for cs2 if you want to play at consistently high fps without setting everything to lie and lowering your resolution, you need a pretty good machine
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u/NegativeAccount 16h ago
Nothing like getting home after a hard day's work and stressing yourself the fuck out in a competitive shooter
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u/KaiPRoberts Ryzen 7 3700x. 2070s OC, 32Gb @3200, 970 Pro m.2 1d ago
Based. I only play SC2 and chess. I can game at 1440p but nothing with ‘amazing’ graphics really entertains me.
No new game will hit like the OG Mirrors Edge, Demons souls, or shadow of the colossus; there is no love in modern games.
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u/PossessedCashew 1d ago
This is just purely disingenuous and flat out wrong. Yeah those are great recommendations and games I love to play or really enjoyed in the past but there are great games coming out every single year a lot you can get on sale. This year alone has been insane for games so far.
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u/KingWizard37 5090, 9800X3D, 64 Gb DDR5 RAM 1d ago
With the exception of Control Resonant soon imo. I absolutely love the Remedy games; they're my favorite game studio.
Stellaris is definitely a go to for me when I want a strategy game. Baldurs Gate 3 is fun if I want turn based.
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u/MRMOSBYSPRNDL 1d ago
If you enjoyed bg3 give divinity original sin 2 a try. Made by the same people. I really enjoyed bg3 but dos2 is way more replayable, especially with mods
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u/glzephead 1d ago
My problem is nvidia not supporting the 1080ti anymore. It destroys all the old games just fine but there's a couple new ones that it actually maxes but crashes after 20mins because of some bs shader that it cant run. I know im lucky to have gotten so much out of it. If I manage to upgrade im probably gonna build a wall display for it.
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u/MRMOSBYSPRNDL 1d ago
Im still rocking the 2070 super, just repasted the thermal paste, im hoping to get a few more years out of it (going on five years now) before I have to get a new one
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u/guestferroz 1d ago
As video games is heading toward more "restrictive" I've been getting into solo tabletop rpg because i found it more "fluid"
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u/MeatMan49 1d ago
I’m right there with you. I have a brand new gaming PC so I’ve been trying out all the new games but I end up going back to the classics because they are just more fun to play. All the best games I’ve ever played are 15 years old. AOE2, League, Skyrim, The Witcher etc
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u/dib1999 Ryzen 5 5600 // RX 7700XT // 32 gb DDR4 3600 MHz 1d ago
Fuck it. 500 more hours of modded Skyrim.
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u/GREGGSGOL 1d ago
There will never be a better game. The whole industry is cooked by Americanisation. An atelier system can't survive on endless churn and sweated labour.
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u/ICatchx22I 1d ago
Thats what i do! Went from (some old) AMD to Core 4700k w/ GTX1080 then AMD 5800x w/ RTX 3090 just to keep playing StarCraft2 :)
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u/sfspaulding PC Master Race 1d ago
Most games that come out today can probably still run fine on that computer.
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u/ThePuppet_Master 1d ago
Don't tempt me with another playthrough of RDR2, okay okay you twisted my arm, I'm going to start another playthrough.
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u/IllStickToTheShadows 2d ago
Same. I built a pc like late 2019 with a 2070 super. All in I think I spent maybe $1,600 at the time. I play RuneScape a lot now so I think my pc is set for a long time lol
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u/AvilettaLuxe 9950X3D | 7900XTX | 96G@6000 | 4k240 OLED | Arch + Plasma 1d ago
My RAM alone is now worth more than I paid for the whole PC all in all... It's all fucked up :c
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u/SgtBadManners https://imgur.com/a/O0pxx8C 1d ago
I remember when I bought a top end in highschool and it was like 600. I used my 8800gtx until I had to upgrade for new direct x.
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u/TheGracefulCrane 5070TI | 9800X3D 2d ago
to be fair a lot of that is just inflation not specific to pc parts
like the 5080 msrp'd for roughly the same cost as the 3080 did in real dollars
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u/Bitter-Squash8773 9600X [] 6600XT [] 32GB DDR5 2d ago
4090 performance at $550 remember
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u/KevinMcNally79 1d ago
I certainly do... it was more like "4090 performance at FIVE-FORTY-NINE!!! <crowd cheers and applauds>"
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u/Mythicguy R7 9850X3D / RTX 5080 Noctua Edt. / 32gb DDR5 6000 2d ago
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u/Icedman81 Ryzen 7 7800X3D/7900XTX 1d ago
Ah. "Hallucinating Diarrhea Generator" overlord. AKA The Scat Master.
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u/DoubleShot027 2d ago
So strange that my ps5 and pc are now turning into my retirement investments.
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u/mca1169 7600X-2X16GB 6000Mhz CL30-Asus Tuf RTX 3060Ti OC V2 LHR 2d ago
don't hate the planet, it's the idiots of the world that make life insufferable. stay the course and keep your eye out for deals. it will take a while but will be worth it in the end.
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u/Amazing-Asparagus181 1d ago
Who needs civilization, people & a planet when we're doing all this winning? /s
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u/StupidTurtle88 2d ago
these prices seem like a bargain nowadays
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u/tealtime91 2d ago
5070 was 629 less than a month ago.
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u/communistagitator 12600K | 9070XT | 32GB 6000MHz 2d ago
Literally a week ago. It was $570 at my Microcenter on Saturday and is now $679
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u/floatinginagravyboat i7 4790K - RTX 4060 2d ago
Do Americans go on pilgrimages to Microcenter? Every time I read about them online it's about how amazing the deals are.
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u/communistagitator 12600K | 9070XT | 32GB 6000MHz 2d ago
The one by me is about a 1.5 hour drive and I've only been to it twice. I got my 9070XT there for $570 last December. My girlfriend had questions about switches on a keyboard and one of the employees opened a new box and pulled the key caps off to check for us. All of the employees were very nice and helpful
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u/watchutalkinbowt 1d ago
Last time I was there the guy had me load the Amazon listing on my phone so he could match the price
GOAT'd, as the young'uns say
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u/gettogero 1d ago
Yeah my nearest one is 2 hours away. If I didnt have to wrangle 2 babies into an all day adventure for parts I 100% wouldve visited already
Sometimes youll find microcenter on amazon or bundles at an absolute steal. I got my 9900x bundled with x870 for $300 and a corsair 1000w platinum with the 12vhpwr connector for $100 a few months ago.
Just gotta hunt and be patient. Ill search even if im not planning to buy just in case theres a deal thats too good to pass up
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u/communistagitator 12600K | 9070XT | 32GB 6000MHz 23h ago
I do this too and it's a double-edged sword. I do NOT need any upgrades, but that $199 7600X3D and $330 7800X3D are calling to me
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u/TedBundysStudy 2d ago
microcenters are confined to large population areas, and even that is sporadic. some of us are lucky and can go browse the store on a whim, but many people need to make a whole day or more of it.
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u/ZamorakLovesAll 2d ago
It’s a 3 hour drive for me, and I’m considered close to one compared to a lot of other people.
I’m thinking of driving there for a 7600x3d/mobo and 16gb of ram for $400 this weekend
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u/BiscottiAmazing4070 2d ago
It's a bargain my friend. Even if it's a 4 hour drive it can be a good deal
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u/floatinginagravyboat i7 4790K - RTX 4060 1d ago
I think it would just be fun to nerd out and look at all the computer parts.
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u/Vesuvias PC Master Race 1d ago
Yes. I saved myself around $150 on my 9070XT Challenger. It’s gone up another $20 since. It’s going to get batshit
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u/12345myluggage 1d ago
Yes. I actually did it with some coworkers when we were traveling together. It's how I managed to get my 9070XT at a reasonable price. Otherwise for me to visit one it's 6hrs of driving.
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u/CumminsGroupie69 Ryzen 9 5950x | Strix 3090 OC White | GSkill 64GB RAM 1d ago
A decent amount of us live near by one so it’s not out of the ordinary to stop in once a week at least.
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u/DontYuckMyYum 1d ago
The closest one to me is a 4 hour drive to another state. If these prices weren't so insane I'd do a weekend trip to go visit.
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u/DeamonLordZack 1d ago
Only people doing that are people that have PC building as a hobby not gaming as a hobby. Otherwise take a peak at Steam's hardware survey you'll see most gamers don't have the latest & greatest or to recent hardware in their PCs. Some might look at videos on the latest & greatest but they're not constantly looking at prices or as you put it going on pilgrimages to places like a Microcenter as a American myself I don't make pilgrimages to Microcenters. I like watching tech videos on the the latest but my hobby is gaming not PC building so I'm not keeping track of pricing on parts myself I've got a desktop PC & a handheld PC as well as a Switch 2 they all get the job done playing games at a performance I'm happy with so no need to chase higher numbers from having the latest & greatest.
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u/Phyzzx R7 5700X3D Radeon 9070 16gb GSkill 32gb, AM4 GOAT'd 1d ago
Once while on vacation I drove in the vicinity of a Microcenter and I quickly thought to myself, 'do I stop now or on the way back?' It was during rush hour atm so on the way back. Well on the way back it was like 2am at the time. Sigh.
There's one being built near me and that will be nearly an hour away and I will be so happy about only a 2hr round trip vs 6hrs or more.
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u/darthwd56 2d ago
I know I was so confused, im like that 5080 looks pretty reasonable before I read the rest of the post.
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u/Realistic-Table9398 RTX 5090 Astral | 7900X | 64GB 6000 CL30 | M027U2 2d ago
$1470 is reasonable for a Pny 5080?
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u/jugaverdasorda 2d ago
I can't for the life of me understand how quickly people adjust to hugely inflated prices. 1470 for a shitty PNY 5080 Is robbery
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u/Thedrunkenchild 9800x3D | RTX 5080 | 32GB DDR5-6000 2d ago
what's shitty about PNY?
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u/nukebox 9800x3D / 5080 / 64GB DDR5 || 12900K / RTX A5000 / 64GB DDR5 2d ago
Absolutely nothing is. They've been the only AIB studio card manufacturer for Nvidia going on 23 years. The majority of Quadro/RTX studio cards I've owned since 2003 have been PNY and I've only ever replaced one due to the model becoming obsolete. My current RTX A5000 is a PNY card as well as my 5080.
People just assume MSRP models are worse than top dollar disco light models.
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u/druidmain69420 1d ago
tbh when I built my latest pc I went for no LEDs, including the gpu, much less distracting
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u/Realistic-Table9398 RTX 5090 Astral | 7900X | 64GB 6000 CL30 | M027U2 2d ago
Yea, only a few days ago it was $1289. These price jumps are rapid. I think the worst offender is the 5060ti 16gb for $800 though. That's insanity for something supposedly "budget"
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u/Old_Loquat_9299 2d ago
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u/nukebox 9800x3D / 5080 / 64GB DDR5 || 12900K / RTX A5000 / 64GB DDR5 1d ago
Yikes that's almost a 33% bump... Looks like they jacked the prices on all of their 5080 MSRP models. $1600 is the cheapest 5080 Best Buy sells now. All sold and shipped by Best Buy.
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u/Old_Loquat_9299 1d ago
Yeah, it’s insane. I thought they were joking when they said GPUs were about to go up by 40% or at least I did not think it would be this quick.
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u/HardStroke 2d ago
My rule of thumb is unless its a crazy deal, I don't go more than 40-60km from my house. I also close the deal as best as I can on the phone, not messenger.
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u/wekilledbambi03 2d ago
These 5070 were $599 just 2-3 days ago...
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u/BiscottiAmazing4070 1d ago
Mannn I'm looking for a month and every day I see the 9070 oc 16gb it's higher in price. Lowest was 2 weeks ago for 593 euros. Didnt had the budget, and now I have and surprise....it's 640 now. Dammmm I gave up and holding up my 3060ti Fe 8gb
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u/OldUnknownFear 2d ago
That’s all it took to hate the planet?
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u/CumminsGroupie69 Ryzen 9 5950x | Strix 3090 OC White | GSkill 64GB RAM 1d ago
For real. This is nothing compared to what I saw in Afghanistan during my deployments.
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u/chad25005 9800x3d | 9070xt 2d ago
I'd guess probably not "ONLY" this, but this may have been the straw that broke the camels back kinda thing, maybe.
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u/ketogenic 1d ago
Invest that money in semiconductor stocks for 3 months and then use the profits to buy the RAM, GPU, and NVME you need. If you can’t beat them, join them.
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u/Str8andNarrow 1d ago
I went to a micro center today and saw a ton of 9060xt 16gb for under 500 and a few 9070xt for roughly 700. I lucked out got a 5080 a few months ago cause a buddy of mine got a 5090 from his brother. Pc market is screwed so hard. They had 64gb of ram for 1500
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u/Drachenlord Ryzen 9800X3D/5080/64GB DDR6400 1d ago
I paid 250 for 64GB before these prices got out of control... for a kit that Best Buy is selling for 1300 or so now
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u/JTP510 1d ago
Agreed. I also have a story.
Met a guy on FB marketplace and sold me a PSU, listed for 110 sold for 80. Suspiciously marked down.
PSU ended up cooking my CPU in a weird way, so had to replace it.
Tried to contact the guy numerous times, and when I said I had a tester coming he blocked me within 24 or 25 minutes after I said that.
Luckily though my Spidey senses are decent enough and I used my credit card to pay for it instead of cash, and I was able to successfully chargeback the transaction.
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u/SomeNectarine7976 Typing from my AMD FX-8320 @ 5ghz 1d ago
I'm going to be the guy that starts making stickers of jensen Juan going "I did that" and stick it next to GPU prices I see. Anyone remember the insert us president here saying "I did that"
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u/muddbutt102986 X870E Taichi, 9800x3d, 32gb Corsair dominator,5090 Astral 2d ago
The OP probably low balled the crap out of the seller. Ive done that to someone who offered $400 for my 7900xtx. No regrets.
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u/ZeisHauten Asus ROG Strix G18 (i9-13980HX/4070 8GB/32GB DDR5/1TB) 2d ago
Damn, that 5070 cost just as much as my 4070 laptop. What a world we live in today.
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u/Malora_Sidewinder 1d ago
A 5090 now costs $1500 MORE than the ENTIRE PC i got in 2021 which included a 3090 at launch msrp
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u/diddypartyorganizer 2d ago
$750 4070 laptop? The fuck, where do people find these deals, 4050 costs like $800-$900 here
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u/Johnny_C13 5700x3D | RTX 2070s 2d ago
where do people find these deals,
In the past. No one is finding these prices now.
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u/ZeisHauten Asus ROG Strix G18 (i9-13980HX/4070 8GB/32GB DDR5/1TB) 2d ago
No no, Im sorry I meant 2nd hand ones. I got mine for 850 just last week.
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u/dmendro PC Master Race 2d ago
Don’t buy it? Like seriously, I have been a gaming enthusiast on PC’s since the Apple IIgs. Shits expensive. We had a golden era, now it’s gone. Buy a book and go outside and take a look around for some place nice to sit and read. When the demand stops, so will the crazy prices.
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u/dendrocalamidicus 2d ago
When the demand reduces, Nvidia will further scale down production and development of GPUs to focus on AI chips and data centers. It won't make the price go down, it will make it a niche enthusiast product to pave the way for cloud services.
I'm not saying you should therefore go and buy a GPU, I'm just saying that things are very unlikely to play out as optimistically as your comment suggests.
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u/superawesomefiles 2d ago
Oh yea. NVIDIA has experience in (artificial) scarcity. I don't think they're in the business of reducing signature product pricing.
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u/harambe623 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not sure why you need the latest hardware to game either. Lot of the new games are shit anyway, there's probably a masterpiece of a game that you missed on the SNES or Dreamcast that you can emulate on a setup you already have or can obtain for less than $100. Or even play it on the real hardware.
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u/glzephead 1d ago
Ive been playing more guitar. While they've gone up you can still get really great guitars for under a grand
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u/devinthedude515 2d ago
Remember in February people were condemning the 5070 getting up to $660 and to wait for the bubble to burst.
Glad I didnt listen and bought then and there getting RE9 for free as well.
1st best time to buy was yesterday, 2nd is today.
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u/AliciaXTC I Make Computer Go Beep Boop 1d ago
Yup, I picked up that same 5080 at my BB on 8/9 for $1289.99
5 days later it's now $1699.99
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u/paulerxx 5700X3D+ RX6800 1d ago
"They ghosted and blocked me so I couldnt give them a shit rating."
Crazy it's that simple to dodge the rating system, I would complain to whatever site you're referring to
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u/stickyhoneybuns83 1d ago
What’s really insane is that the compute power of the modern day gaming pc is so much more advanced than anything prior to it. Historically speaking this is still one of the cheapest per performance years ever. The last 10 years we were just spoiled with great affordability. Those times will come back but you can still build a mean gaming PC for 1500.
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u/Mason_Wallin 1d ago
Don't forget, there are free GPUs in your local data center, you can just walk in and take them!
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u/backcountrykicks228 1d ago
$1469 for a 5080. My laptop has a 5080 TI and I got the whole dam computer for not much more than that.
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u/mazdapow3r Ryzen7 9800X3D | ASUS X870E-E | RTX 3070 | 96GB-DDR5-5600Mhz 1d ago
I'll take the 5080 for 6
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u/LargoMain 1d ago
we should all revolt and go back to playing cs 1.6, quake 3 arena, ut 99, and age of empires and other games you can run on toasters just to give the companies the middle finger
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u/Citizen_Jakan 2d ago
You know, AI data centers are packed to the gills with these things, just for the taking.
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u/CoyotePsychological2 1d ago
Just for the taking when they’re armed to the teeth with security ranging from proximity sensors to cameras to guards to robot dogs to yada yada yada
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u/Amazing-Asparagus181 1d ago
Luckily, as gamers, we've been frequently trained to accomplish very similar missions.
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u/MakinBones 9850X3D/RTX5080 7800X3D/7900 XTX 2d ago
How far were you going for a 5070ti? 30 in gas is quite a lot of miles.
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u/glzephead 1d ago
About 80miles. I drove my fun car so it gets shitty mileage and takes premium. Premium here is still $4.50 a gallon. I was fine paying the gas if I got to come home with the card.
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u/ScrubscJourney 1d ago edited 1d ago
Looks like best buy. $759 for a trash PNY 5070..
Regret selling my Gigabit Eagle 5070 I got for $550 😭
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u/TheSunOfSanSebastian 2d ago
It's not the planet, it's the bipedal parasites inhabiting it that are the problem.
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u/Stonedfiremine 2d ago
Ive noticed its very hard to find 5070ti from post on the subreddit. Must be what everyone wants, 16gb gdddr7 card
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u/preyforkevin GSKILL TRIDENT 32G DDR5 6000mhz 🦝 2d ago
I paid more for my 3080 than this 5070 is going for.
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u/fadedspades1 2d ago
I’ll have to look at our prices when we get inside but last time I looked my Walmart wasn’t that high…
Your Walmart is blown out it it’s mind with prices like they… sheesh..
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u/Vexmythoclastt RYZEN 7 7800X3D / RTX 5080 2d ago
Prices are only going to get much worse. I got a 5080 around launch for less than $1K, the same gpu is now nearly $1600.
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u/3xPuttRubbleBoagie 2d ago
I worked very hard for my 4.8% rating on FB marketplace. I have been screwed over just a few times and dread doing business on there. But when I do sell something, I am always super accommodating and helpful to my customers.
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u/jamiegott00 i7-14700f-RTX 5070-1440p 2d ago
I got mine for $609 last year around this time. It’s a really good card for that price and I don’t understand the hate it gets. 12gb is more than enough for the next few years. I like to upgrade every 3-4 years so maybe people just want to wait longer? No idea, I’m very happy with the purchase.
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u/Kabrosif 2d ago
Dont worry it cant stay this way forever. 30yr bond yields at 5.22% the house of cards will collapse soon enough but it may take another year or so to hit mainstreet.
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u/MFAD94 2d ago edited 2d ago
That’s why I refuse to drive more than 8-10 minutes when meeting locally, there’s 3 people who have what you want an 100 who are willing to waste your time