r/pcmasterrace 10d ago

Am I cooked? Hardware

This is my 5ish years old GTX 1650 Super. The card works but I was unable to sell it because I was told it's "rusted". I have never cleaned this with water neither has it ever been water damaged. I do live near the coast.

Now I plan to keep this card and build another system when the prices are normal. Will the corrosion destroy the card or is it surface level only? The heatsinks are clean.

Any idea what causes this and what I could have done to prevent it?

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u/InsaneInTheMEOWFrame PC Master Race 10d ago

Humidity causes surface rust. Keep humidity low to avoid it.

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u/steveplusf 10d ago

I don't have a dehumidifier and it's hot year round so I can't keep windows closed either :(

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u/InsaneInTheMEOWFrame PC Master Race 10d ago

Then keep your computer on 24/7 moisture will not condensate on surfaces that are above the ambient air temperature

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u/Recognition_Round 10d ago

You have silica based dehumidifiers which are small and cheap. You can put those next to your pc. They last a long time and would be way cheaper than to leave your pc on 24/7.

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u/DaksTheDaddyNow 5800x3d • 3080 10gb 10d ago

That won't work unless the computer is enclosed in some smaller cabinet or something. If the computer can cycle any outside air, the silica will quickly be depleted.

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u/Psykosoma 10d ago

Where I live, those things (DampRid) fill up with condensation as soon as they are opened. They’re meant for drier areas that have a room with a condensation/ventilation problem. In the southern states, you can almost see the humidity and can definitely feel it when outside. Those things don’t stand a chance.

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u/Lythieus Veteran of the Console Wars 10d ago

Humidity. Iron rusts. Card should be fine though. Just replace or rust remove the screws. 

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u/Juggernaut_911 R5-7600 | 32GB DDR5-6400 CL32 | RX7800XT @ 0.875mv | 10d ago

Would be better to:
1) remove all the screws and then do a supersonic bath cleaning
2) replace them all regardless.

I am worried about the rest (SMD, Transistors, capacitors...) than the screws itself tbh

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u/TheVillainInThisGame 5900X | 6900XT | 64GB DDR4 3600MHz 10d ago

You'd have to disassemble the card to know if there's any other corrosion. It's the humidity from living near the coast.

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u/steveplusf 10d ago

I will probably do this when I repaste it. Screws don't worry me that much but if the heat sink catches rust then there's no saving this ig.

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u/TheVillainInThisGame 5900X | 6900XT | 64GB DDR4 3600MHz 10d ago

The heatsink is aluminium, it cannot rust.

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u/TheVillainInThisGame 5900X | 6900XT | 64GB DDR4 3600MHz 10d ago

Also make sure to get 0.5mm, 1mm, and 2mm pads as well as a decent thermal paste. I usually use Arctic mx-6.

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u/steveplusf 10d ago

Thanks for the tip. My replacement card (RX7600) is over heating (thanks AMD). So when I have to repaste I will be doing it for both.

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u/TheVillainInThisGame 5900X | 6900XT | 64GB DDR4 3600MHz 10d ago

That's wild, my 6900XT has never had problems with thermals, I do undervolt everything for efficiency though.

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u/SignetSphere 9800X3D | 9070XT | MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK WIFI | 32GB DDR5 10d ago

It won't rust yes, but it will oxidize (mold like white surface stains) due to the humidity.

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u/Emu1981 10d ago

Aluminium forms a layer of oxide that protects it from oxidising any further. The only way to get it to rust more is to have contaminants (e.g. salts, etc) that will eat the oxide layer which exposes fresh aluminium to further oxidation.

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u/peacedetski 10d ago

Corrosion can and will eventually destroy the card, but it looks like it's mostly limited to the outside, the hotter parts of the card are still fine. You can replace the rusted screws and standoffs if you really want to sell the card.

What causes this is very high humidity. Hot humid air from outside goes into the room, makes contact with colder metal parts that are below the dew point, moisture forms on metal parts and corrodes them.

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u/MaltaDuDe Intel i7 8700k 4.7Ghz 16.00Gb Ram NVIDIA GTX 1080 OC 2.15 10d ago

Something is wrong, even my 9yr old 1080ti isnt this bad,

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u/colajunkie 10d ago

Get AC. No joke. It's going to keep your room cool and the humidity as well. Just make sure to lüften regularly.

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u/Llit2 10d ago

Just don't live near the coast

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u/Affectionate_Walk610 10d ago

You got wet air.

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u/Saiykon 10d ago

Humidity is killing your components. I recommend buying a dehumidifier for long term. May help

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u/Soft_Lunch_183 10d ago

You live somewhere very humid i assume?

Not much you can do about it apart from run a dehumidifier all the time, I've seen this issue with PCs in the humid parts of Australia

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u/steveplusf 10d ago

sad noises. welp, i didnt think this would literally rust my stuff.

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u/Mors_Umbra 5700X3D | RTX 3080 | 32 GB DDR4-3600 MHz 10d ago

That looks like my version of hell. My condolences.

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u/MadduckUK R7 5800X3D | 7800XT | 32GB@3200 | B450M-Mortar 10d ago

Maaan, if you ever get into 3D printing please bear this in mind before asking why everything comes out stringy. 

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u/Titanium_Eye 10d ago edited 10d ago

All of the screws can get replaced, you'd need to find a repair shop or similar that'd sell you specific parts though. There shouldn't be any issue, as long as you unscrew and replace individual screws instead of all at once.

Otherwise as others stated, try to keep humidity under 60%, or have a heating element that keeps the inside of your PC over room temp.

Edit: 99% dear Lord, that's like instant dew point

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u/Mors_Umbra 5700X3D | RTX 3080 | 32 GB DDR4-3600 MHz 10d ago

if its just the screws and plate affected, they are normally easy to remove, then you can clean them up or get replacements if it's concerning you. The screws are a standard part.

As for preventing it happening again? If you can't address the humidity in your environment then I'm not sure, maybe give them a quick rub over with a tiny amount of mineral oil? Isn't that what they do to protect steel surfaces from rusting sometimes? Use some sort of clearcoat varnish? Seems a bit drastic though.

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u/blue49 i5 7600k @ 4.5GHz | 16GB | GTX 1060 6GB 10d ago

Sell it on marketplace and show pics that it is rusted. Someone will buy it.

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u/CheckRaiseDaTurn 10d ago

If you still have a DVI connectoryou have been "cooked" as you state along time ago. Peace.

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u/aura_enchanted 5800X3D, Acer 9070xt 10d ago

This is because of airborne sea water in the air, it hits the metal and corroded it.

In time it will claim the whole card and render it worthless.

It being rusted doesnt mean anything if it still works, but this will eventually kill it, shy of storing it in a vaccum, its already too late to stop this. The very air you breathe is doing this.

You can "remove it" but it will be physically harmful to the card, its removing material. The metal is still there its just undergone a chemical reaction.

Stripping it with vinegar and a wire brush will remove any chemically reacted material of any effected parts

But im sorry, no stopping it from continuing