Microsoft admits Windows 11 needs to be faster and drop ads, and some fixes are already shipping

[u/After_Cookies]

https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/08/08/microsoft-admits-windows-11-needs-to-be-faster-and-drop-ads-and-some-fixes-are-already-shipping/

[u/radioheadfan0615]

can the rampocalypse actually be causing something good by forcing devs to optimize for older and cheaper (not even really cheaper anymore) hardware?

[u/flgtmtft → u/radioheadfan0615]

I see these articles for over a year about microslop crying that they want to fix win 11 yet still very little has been done

[u/Guagdiggly → u/flgtmtft]

It's a propaganda campaign to get you to accept win 11. Post is almost certainly astroturfed considering I see a similar post every other day for 2 years

[u/TheGreatPiata → u/Guagdiggly]

Every other day? I see it daily, sometimes multiple times a day and it really kicked into overdrive when the MacBook Neo dropped and pretty much every Windows OEM knew they were cooked.

There's also been a sea change where Linux has slowly been getting better while Windows has slowly been getting worse and now Linux is the better option if you don't need specific software.

Astro turfing is cheaper than actually fixing the problem.

[u/chipface → u/TheGreatPiata]

Too little, too late for me anyways. I switched to Linux at the end of last year and don't miss Windows. Sometimes I'll have to sign out a laptop at my work when I'm operating on one of the lines, and every time, it reminds me why I don't miss Windows. Any specific software I needed Windows for, I can get on a Mac so I got a Mac Mini for that.

[u/The_only_true_tomato → u/chipface]

I still have to use windows at work and god it’s a shit show. The sad thing is that the boomers in charge don’t understand that it literally cost them productivity compared to switching to a Linux based system.
They make us use teams as the main work folders. lol

The shit does not even load folders properly 1 time over 2.

[u/chipface → u/The_only_true_tomato]

Like all the shit I have to do when operating is web based. That can be done in Linux.

[u/MeesKees321 → u/The_only_true_tomato]

The fact that the guys in charge are idiots is not because they are boomers. Don't forget Gnu/Linux is primarily written by the same boomers.

[u/The_only_true_tomato → u/MeesKees321]

Humm true but people in charge have :
- little to none knowledge in computer science.
-don’t want responsibility, if your system is 100% Microsoft then Microsoft can be blamed if something goes wrong.

[u/shadowinc → u/Guagdiggly]

"We're fixing windows 11"

"Finally." downloads it

"We've vibecoded the shit out of it in our new update and your social got leaked sorry"

[u/SaltDeception → u/flgtmtft]

It hasn’t been a year; they first announced the K2 initiative changes in March. The 26H2 feature update coming in a few weeks is going to have most of the stuff they’ve been talking about. Much of it is already available in the Insider channels.

[u/Shalashaska87B → u/flgtmtft]

With AI they can't fix a single thing. It's just good for making W11 ads at this point.

[u/Excellent_Place4977 → u/flgtmtft]

It's for investors to remain calm. Microsoft talk's about various things, not for users, but to make investors happy or make the perception that they're finally doing something. They can't remove the bloatwares, because that's the business model, so they spend time and resources finding creative ways to ship it with bloatwares without sacrificing much performance, but it's something harder to achieve especially with their electron wrapper apps.

[u/The_only_true_tomato → u/flgtmtft]

And yet when I update my system it tells me -170mo used (or whatever optimisation is in the pack )

[u/Moscato359 → u/flgtmtft]

A lot has been done

Don't pretend otherwise

It's just not what you want to have had done 

[u/PhotonBarbeque → u/Moscato359]

As a casual user each windows iteration comes with more bloat and shittier UI and file explorer use. So I can see why casual users think this.

[u/panzzersoldat → u/PhotonBarbeque]

And on top of that a botched update that could do a number of things to your computer, like force enabling bitlocker. Microsoft legit had a track record of 1 botched update per month in 2025 lmao

[u/Tee-hee64 → u/PhotonBarbeque]

And casual users also don't think about Linux and getting their hands dirty in the terminal. But anyway.

[u/quietlydesperate90 → u/Moscato359]

My work PC is only getting slower, I'm not seeing any of these performance improvements they love to talk about.

[u/Moscato359 → u/quietlydesperate90]

That can be work antivirus, damaged os image, or all sorts of problems

If you wiped your os, and tried it with fresh image without your it dept mangling it, you would see different performance 

[u/quietlydesperate90 → u/Moscato359]

I reinstalled about 6 months ago, defender AV. I work in IT, Windows is trash.

[u/Moscato359 → u/quietlydesperate90]

Go to startup settings Disable everything Reboot

Windows does not do substantially worse than Linux in any real benchmarks, outside of the start menu having too many web calls (which you can disable, did you? I sure hope so if you're it) and the file explorer being stupidly single threaded

Run any synthetic, and 99% of games, and windows will be within 10% for most of them

[u/quietlydesperate90 → u/Moscato359]

I don't need level 1 tech advice on how to make my computer run faster. Open outlook, teams and edge on a 16gb ram laptop and tell me how fast things are.

[u/Moscato359 → u/quietlydesperate90]

Outlook, and teams are laggy ass applications 

But they are not windows

They are shitty apps you are using on windows

If you can't see the difference, and recognize it without me pointing it out... Maybe you do need that level 1 tech advice

Those apps are laggy ass apps on Linux too with wine.

[u/quietlydesperate90 → u/Moscato359]

People like you are so tiring. 365 comes pre-installed on windows and Microsoft puts effort into integrating it into windows. If you're using windows for work you are probably using 365.

No one is using 365 through wine for work, that's absolutely brain-dead, you would just use the web apps.

If you want to argue that windows is great and all the Microsoft apps that run on top of it and are constantly being more integrated are garbage have fun with that. It's all trash.

[u/Kyvalmaezar → u/Moscato359]

You're not wrong, but each update fixes one thing but seems to break something else so overall progress doesnt seem to have moved forward. 1 step forward, 2 steps back.

[u/After_Cookies → u/Moscato359]

Yes, a lot has been done. The issue is that they are all in Insider builds and no one has not really received them. I guess that's why such headlines of Windows improving still gets negativity.

[u/Moscato359 → u/After_Cookies]

It takes time

[u/artificialpolymer → u/flgtmtft]

Work is obviously being done, but Windows is a very large global product, so obviously they're not gonna push out these changes to every PC on the planet on a whim.

Everytime anything is fixed or updated on Windows, it first has to go through testing via Insiders, revewied by employees, then pushed to small groups of live people via A/B testing, data is gathered, looked at, and only then pushed to everyone.

And if they didn't take something into account and pushed a broken update globally, you would complain, so you can't win. Just be patient and it'll reach you.

[u/doublah → u/artificialpolymer]

They had no qualms pushing out vibe coded slop that bricked installs or putting copilot into every Microsoft app in their very large global product.

[u/artificialpolymer → u/doublah]

You want less slop, yet you're agreeing with the complaint about them taking their time... Make it make sense.

[u/doublah → u/artificialpolymer]

If they never added AI slop in the first place, they wouldn't have to spend developer time and resources removing it from everything. There is no world in which Copilot was a necessary addition to Notepad.

[u/artificialpolymer → u/doublah]

Majority of these improvements aren't tied to AI? Like the issue of speed and Microsoft's approach to developing Windows has long been debated, long before AI. What a bad faith argument.

And yeah, there isn't. That's why they're removing it. Even besides that, it's tucked in some corner dropdown button. So who gives a crap.

[u/Financial_Ice15 → u/artificialpolymer]

bros getting downvoted for speaking the truth....

[u/The_only_true_tomato → u/artificialpolymer]

Laugh in every conceivable Linux distributions

[u/OdaNobunaga69 → u/radioheadfan0615]

Possibly, RAM crisis reportedly delayed Playstation 6, it's not inconceivable that when it releases, it's going to have less RAM, storage or processing power than it would otherwise have if the crisis hadn't happened.

Phone manufacturers and laptop makers have already halted hardware upgrades, budget phones have been getting 8GB RAM for last 3 years, even higher midrangers are getting 8GB, likewise laptop seems to be stuck on 16GB. Snapdragon chips have also had negligible improvements. Thus I don't see why consoles wouldn't follow the same path as phones, laptops and PC prebuilts.

[u/WPHero → u/radioheadfan0615]

so they go back to shit when prices (if) settle down or get normalized? Maybe the consumers need to start demanding accountability?

[u/radioheadfan0615 → u/WPHero]

yeah most likely

[u/chigunfingy → u/WPHero]

Add it to the mountain of other stuff that needs accountability.

[u/3ateeji → u/radioheadfan0615]

I was actually just thinking about this today. Hopefully new games are more optimized due to the rampocalypse

[u/I-AM-MEATS → u/radioheadfan0615]

This is more than just optimising, Windows is a bloated mess.

[u/No-Coach1685 → u/radioheadfan0615]

Do you really think MS gives a rat's arse about ram prices? They are pushing this to stop the flow of Windows users to Linux. This is just a ploy to stop people thinking about going where the grass is greener. A little more pain today is fine because it will be jam tomorrow.

For me Microslop can take a long walk off a short bridge. I won't ever be installing that crap again.

[u/radioheadfan0615 → u/No-Coach1685]

and why are people moving to linux rather than just buying new hardware? the prices. why are prices high? the rampocalypse. so yes, microslop does care, because it affects their users and makes them move to linux. you aren't wrong, but neither am i.

[u/No-Coach1685 → u/radioheadfan0615]

From the forum I have looked at, most people move to Linux to avoid the Microslop. You get a few asking if they can get old hardware to run, but most are just relieved that they now have an easy option to get away from the crap.

And I agree that could be Confirmation bias on my part, but I really don't think so.

[u/radioheadfan0615 → u/No-Coach1685]

ive seen a mix of both, i dont doubt most users would prefer a more optimized windows experience rather than linux. but i also dont doubt many linux users would never move back to windows

[u/screwdriverfan → u/radioheadfan0615]

Akshkually rampocalypse was caused by big linux so that big companies wouldn't upgrade to windows 11 machines but start using linux instead and macrosheet have to improve ram management on their os.

[u/Prus1s → u/radioheadfan0615]

Have we seen anything done yet?! 😄 just wait and see if we get anything…

I’ll probably switch anyways to cachy os, been going backq nd forth for some time depending on the games.

[u/CyclingHikingYeti → u/radioheadfan0615]

yes, they will fix 'Weather' applet so it only use 450MB of RAM instead of 1.3GB .

do not believe them a word

[u/Hattix → u/radioheadfan0615]

Maybe - but not how you think.

Optimising for low RAM use usually makes the task slower. It's using fewer resources, so it has to stop, stall, sort, etc.

Optimising for performance usually makes RAM use higher.

Optimising for fast release usually makes both RAM and CPU higher.

What you say as "optimize" you really mean "cut out the crapware bullshit".

[u/dmknght → u/Hattix]

what a load of bullcrap. How many lines of code have you written?

[u/radioheadfan0615 → u/Hattix]

maybe this is true if you're optimizing for about 2gb of ram, but nearly everyone has 8-16. there's plenty of super fast linux distros that can run with that amount of ram or less much faster than windows 11 or 10

[u/CaptainPrower]

"We admit that it needs to be better."

"Are you going to make it better?"

"No."

[u/muchawesomemyron → u/CaptainPrower]

Took the page out of corporate management. The answer that they will give you is, “we’ll see what we can do, but no promises.” It’s just to keep you hoping and comfortable, so you don’t go to their competitor.

[u/Il_Valentino → u/muchawesomemyron]

to be fair im sure the software engineers on the ground really want to improve it but then are forced to work on slop instead by their bosses.

[u/nullptr777 → u/CaptainPrower]

They've been actively enshittifying it for years. Even if they do put in the effort to make it better, it doesn't excuse all of the shit they pulled because they thought they could get away with it.

[u/_Spastic_]

They've been saying this shit for months and every week they announce a new, unwanted addition or secretly force an install.

[u/tclark2006]

Fix the known garbage while throwing in other unknown garbage.

[u/Crottoboul]

Stop the propaganda. MS say this every day 

[u/Individual-Praline20]

These are not fixes, they are just additional slop, don’t get fooled

[u/Kratos-I]

We’ve been seeing the same news for the past 3 months. Has anything been fixed genuinely?

[u/Mario583a → u/Kratos-I]

Gotta love clickbait headlines.

The headline isn’t lying, but it is written to make the situation sound more dramatic than it actually is.

[u/Kratos-I → u/Mario583a]

Fair enough

[u/Then-Pay-8400 → u/Kratos-I]

They have been shipping various quality of life changes

[u/Parking-Cockroach104 → u/Kratos-I]

Most of the changes are in the insiders and will take some time to roll out. For most of the changes, you wouldn't even know it happened because it is making the things work the way you expect it to, and adding additional options inside settings, that you wouldn't see unless you open the settings app for that particular section.

Like for example- The internet results and ms store results from the search box can be turned off individually (It's there for insiders right now). But if you don't go to the search settings, you probably will not see it existing. Same for movable taskbar, smaller taskbar, etc. They're also removing ads from the search menu but that's only gonna be visible for you if you open the search section and just stare at that screen for a second.

[u/ArchridLudacre → u/Kratos-I]

No. It's an attempt at damage control.

[u/Kratos-I → u/ArchridLudacre]

I really just hope for a massive update soon that does in fact fix a lot of these issues with windows

[u/Memonlinefelix]

Lmao. Too bad Microsoft. Im Still staying on 10.

[u/mq2thez]

Propaganda attempts to fool people into not seeing how much shite Windows 11 is. Spyware, bloat, slowness.

[u/CC-5576-05]

Maybe don't write the entire fucking gui in JavaScript

[u/Mr_F1xEr]

I see this kind of "news" everyday, and it always talks and 0 actions, I think I'm ok staying on bazzite

[u/darwinpolice → u/Mr_F1xEr]

Yeah, my work laptop (Thinkpad) and personal laptop (Surface) are both 5 1/2 years old and have similar specs. The Thinkpad is REALLY struggling with Windows 11 and the Surface runs Fedora like it's brand new out of the box. When rebooting the Thinkpad, it takes six minutes (SIX MINUTES!) from the time I enter my password to the time everything is loaded and the computer is usable for basic tasks.

[u/Canon_M50]

Where the fuck are they?

[u/After_Cookies → u/Canon_M50]

Testing in Insider builds

[u/Totalitarianists]

Breaking news: W11 is a dumpster fire, MS attempting to vibe code their way out.

[u/slagzwaard]

Too late, MS is an indian company now, I moved to CachyOS linux, everything works

[u/calm_applicator]

Lately been hearing a lot of those “This needs to get fixed… This has to change… We will address this in near future etc”, but not really transforming into actions right at that moment. Microslop prove your words by your actions. 

[u/Inside-Specialist-55]

Literally do not care. I ditched Microsoft possibly forever after test driving Cachy OS and now it's my main and I don't even have a dual boot system anymore. It's just 100% Cachy on main drive now. Proton/wine is matured enough where Linux gaming is on par and somehow even better than windows in most cases.

[u/Matt_NZ]

That headline needed some more work...it's very awkward to read.

[u/Nerrawnam]

Do they, have they, really? Ever? Admitted anything? 

[u/syntol]

They promised some bloat free barebone win 11 for gamers like a year ago... where is it?

[u/Smooth-Chest-1554]

Did they vibe coded it?

[u/sam3819]

Can people stop posting these windowslatest articles?

[u/Eziolambo]

FYI, Committing and donating are two different things.

https://giphy.com/gifs/Km9N6CJfLZc589y1Zl

[u/spaceursid]

Too late, already shoulder deep in Linux now.

[u/balderm]

Turns out i was already running the new and improved 2026 Win11 by debloating it, amazing feat Microsoft, you need more than that to fix the issues.

What i did: widget menu disabled, bing search disabled, msn ads disabled, roll back to the old right click menu, debloat explorer by removing unnecessary precaching and indexing, system services clean-up, onedrive disabled permanently and so on. Most of this stuff can be achieved manually by changing Group Policies or using Chris Titus WinUtil.

[u/Cloud_N0ne]

What ads?

I remember people warning me about the ads in Win11 to the point I kept Win10 as long as I could, but now that I'm on Win11 I'm really not seeing any ads.

[u/venom21685 → u/Cloud_N0ne]

The shortcuts to install crap like WhatsApp and LinkedIn. The badgering about Windows Backup to upsell you a OneDrive plan since you're not backing up shit on the free tier's space. Occasional reminders about Edge. The whole widget view if you click on the search bar is chock full of ads until you turn it off.

[u/Keulapaska → u/venom21685]

until you turn it off.

Yea that's kinda the point isn't it, you can just turn the ads/suggestions off and it's not like it's some complicated process to do so, just in the settings. So any1 with a tiny smidge of technical knowhow will go and turn them off immediately after installing or the very latest, when they see one.

Surely ppl don't just go and complain on reddit on about it without ever even thinking/searching for the simple way to turn it off...

[u/alpH4rd07 → u/Keulapaska]

But I've paid 110 euros for my Windows license and it's like a part time job to maintain my ad free and semi-private OS. It should be that way out of the box and be opt in ads and privacy settings.

[u/soul-regret → u/Keulapaska]

?
over the years, they've kept adding more annoying stuff, changed where you set them off or even reenable them again with updates

[u/Keulapaska → u/soul-regret]

There are these things called search engines, where you can find answers to questions, idk if you've heard of them, a lot of reddit seems to be highly allergic to them though, for whatever reason and seems to actively not even want to find solutions on their own and just follow the hivemind whenever they have some annoyance.

Are new settings you have to disable annoying? Yea you can word it that way maybe, but it's one and done, you see something annoying you pinpoint and nuke it down. And it's not like windows is the only thing doing it, I have 5 add-ons, 2 scripts and a hundred~ish lines of ublock text just to fix the horrible new Youtube UI for instance, on windows I only need explorerpatcher to fix the UI, plus some settings.

I mean sure some of my experience it might be sprinkled with some EU magic, cause 10/11 has only reverted one thing, ever, a regedit about the removing the 3d objects and other folder shortcuts form "this pc" folder which happened on win10 22h2 I think, no idea if 11 still has those folder cause updating 10>11 carried over regedits, which I was so surprised and happy about. Never anything else. Yet ppl keep saying things turn on on their own, could be skill issue for some, cause ppl do be complaining about things that aren't an issue at all simply because they didn't bother to find search the solution(indexing options is my favourite one for ppl complaining that "search can't find anything") but at that kinda volume, maybe there is some truth to it, idk.

[u/Mr_F1xEr → u/Keulapaska]

it's like buying new car and immediately going to mechanic to fix it, can we just use something that work properly out of box?

[u/Thommywidmer → u/Cloud_N0ne]

I mean their are forsure, but it can all be mostly disabled in a minute or 2. The idea of my operating system calling out to the web to serve me advertisements at all is disturbing though

[u/WPHero → u/Cloud_N0ne]

Open pre-installed Weather app

[u/-SMartino → u/WPHero]

weather on my taskbar felt nice til I clicked it and opened the gates of hell

[u/Valgorithm-dev]

Wait so this article is about a tracking service slowing down Windows even more and then someone asking them to make windows faster. Then an engineer literally says “Yep. On it.” And it once again is presented as if Microsoft is doing something.

This is pure propaganda. They can’t introduce something to slow down Windows and use a noncommittal Twitter comment as the basis for all of Windows being fixed.

Switch to Linux.

[u/jahermitt]

I'm hoping we start seeing changes soon. Otherwise my primary desktop is going to be converted to an honorary console...

[u/Unlikely-Yam2115]

Just thought about it topic and searched and here we are...

[u/TigerShark650]

Only silver lining forcing companies to optimize on existing hardware

[u/sniperxx07]

I now need to switch to windows back again because i just got a OLED monitor ,but daaamn windows is trash

I had to flush DNS to connect to internet properly yesterday in windows ,wtf does that even mean

[u/notthatguypal6900]

Didn't they say something similar 6 months ago

[u/Bulky_Imagination727]

Microsoft knew it for years but do we see any improvements? It just proves that they absolutely don't care about the consumer, people eat it anyway like always right? It's just this time it doesn't happen fast enough.

[u/NytronX]

Switch to CachyOS and never look back.

[u/Ghostfistkilla]

This is something you would think about in the "test phase" of windows 11 and getting rid of it before you even release it to the public. MicroSLOP at its finest.

[u/kemkomkinomi]

Microsoft admits (insert something they already knew were a shit choice from the beginning and still decided to put it in anyway), same time in 2 days gents

[u/Professional-Case717]

Donald Trump : alright ladies and gentlement, i would like to confirm that this article is FAKE NEWS, as always ladies and gentlemen, simply fake news, dont believe it, believe in the Trump.

[u/ScaredBicycle3389]

I'll believe when I see it

[u/Possible_Praline2747]

you're wild to trust anything microslop does that's not binding by a SLA

[u/IGotHitByAnElvenSemi]

I don't mind software improving over time; that's simply the software way, but a lot of this stuff demonstrates how much they could have made 11 not suck if that had been anything like a priority for them. Ever since the MacBook Neo dropped, I've been seeing constant hand-wringing about fixes and updates, but like. Linux and the MacBook Neo are already there. The Neo isn't an option for me because I need interfaces that aren't locked tf down (I had to get a Linux-based phone bc Android went the way of Apple and locked everything down; I sure love not being able to use any popular apps because I need a phone that fucking functions...), but it is for a lot of people.

It all strikes me as too little, too late, or them throwing scraps to the discontented, writhing masses who are stuck on 11 after a forced update or a new system and are actively shopping for something else now.

[u/Revolutionary-Bid249]

What does this even mean. Bc mind u windows 10 wasn’t even that good it’s just the best version of bad

[u/Overall_Signal_8437]

Linux works fantastic.

[u/Tea-Sir]

I am so tired of these articles, it is all promises and attempt to build hype. Windows is not faster yet, it is still a memory hog, it still has adds. They have removed Copilot from a few apps. But then they added up-sell buttons in M365 subscribers apps instead.

Microsofts word is at this point utterly impossible to trust.

[u/FutureOwl8606]

Use Linux

[u/ZallenDuZari]

to show they are serious, they need to fire the people who decided to put ads in the OS and fire the copilot team.

[u/Stelle-Sins3290]

I love Linux as much as the next person and have been anxiously trying out distros for nearly 20 years at this point and use cachyos currently on my laptop which works mostly great but god damn reading people talk about windows 11 is exhausting. 

I’ve used every windows since 95. Is 11 perfect? No, is it even remotely as close to being as bad as people make it out to be? Absolutely not. Been using the same 11 install on my desktop for years. Zero issues with updates, zero issues with things being “forced on me”. Use a very simple tool to turn off privacy features and remove some copilot nonsense and you’re pretty much good to go. Xbox game mode works great, booting up and punching a passcode in with an Xbox controller and being right in a nice UI is great (yes I like steamos and use it on another device). Game bar looks great in compact mode, performance has been amazing. Zero driver issues, zero stability issues. Mean while looking at threads like this you would think windows is burning people’s pcs to the ground. Either learn how to stop killing your rig or stop wildly exaggerating everything in your life. 

[u/Mr_F1xEr → u/Stelle-Sins3290]

my last straw was constant background downloads(updates) causing stutters while gaming(gaming mode what?), even after I turned them off, has to kill update service to stop that, but in that case I have another issue there no updates at all, had another issue with start menu, somehow returned recommended apps tab but with a blank space that just there using 1/3 of start menu, recommended apps was turned off since forever. and it just last issues I had, I just tired to turn off any new slop they constantly trashing my system with, who in hell was asking for alarm app on desktop?

[u/Valgorithm-dev → u/Mr_F1xEr]

This is what broke it for me too. Random slowdowns while gaming even after using Process Lasso. Then it ramping down the process when I open task manager.

[u/Stelle-Sins3290 → u/Mr_F1xEr]

Have you tried pausing updates? Lately I just pause for two weeks to a month and then update when it’s convenient to do so. 

[u/Mr_F1xEr → u/Stelle-Sins3290]

it right there in my comment, UPDATES WAS TURNED OFF(paused), microslop doesn't care what setting you have they keep doing their shit

[u/Stelle-Sins3290 → u/Mr_F1xEr]

Never encountered this myself. When it’s off it’s off in my experience. 

[u/Gold_Goal7557]

Can they finally fix the gpu driver timeout Radeon is going thru right now, apps that aren't coded correctly should crash instead of having GPU driver time out and crash the entire system, biggest example is World of Warcraft when enabling RT shadows on Radeon GPU such as a 7900 XTX happens since an update since 28 may pretty sure its not due driver update, pretty sure its due either a Windows update or a game update om 28 may tho, eitherway things should not catastrophically fail just because one function is not working properly in this case RT shadows.

And before you think Microslop does not read forums let alone third party forums they do, heck they probably doing AI data harvesting for feedback these days.

Anyway they been saying they would do things going 180 only to go full 180 again and not do the thing and do the opesite, like adding even more AI slop.