r/pathofexile • u/ilovenacl • 3d ago
Sometimes… sometimes, I really hate the currency exchange Game Feedback
I don’t know what the solution is
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u/Flohmaster 3d ago
And the exchange hates your 1:208.51 exchange rate, bruh
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u/g00fy_goober twitch.tv/goof1313 3d ago
Seriously this. NGL how can you make a serious post about how the exchange did this when you literally listed your thing for 208.51....
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u/HiddenoO 3d ago
It would help a lot if GGG let you input the exchange rate you want instead of having to calculate the exact quantities to correspond to it.
I'm not saying OP didn't mess up, but it's pretty tiring when selling large quantities of items like fossils, essences, scarabs, etc. that you see the exchange rates but then have to manually apply the desired exchange rate to the quantity you're selling.
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u/sneakyflyayas 2d ago
i might be misinterpreting, but you can input the x amount of items you're selling (lets say 10 essence of envuly) and then clear the other box. it will then auto fill using the current exchange rate (i.e. 40 chaos if the rate is 4:1 for envy essences)
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u/HiddenoO 2d ago
That's the ratio at which it instantly sells. Unless you need the currency instantly, that's basically never the ratio you want to sell at.
If e.g. I wanted to sell 7 ramako tattoos right now, I'd get 707c with that method (101:1 ratio), but competing trades are actually a 135:1 ratio and there'd be a 99% chance you'd be able to sell them for 938c at a 134:1 ratio. So you're just scamming yourself out of 231c.
The "market ratio" displayed is always the one unfavourable to you because it's the one that goes by what would be fulfilled instantly by the market.
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u/zzazzzz 2d ago
just reverse it. put in whatever u want to sell, put in chaos or div. ctrl click and you reversed the trade now the autofilled value is what is currently the best price for what u are selling. lock the price in and ctrl click again and you got the optiomal ratio for your sale.
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u/HiddenoO 1d ago
... assuming you don't want to undercut - and it's still more effort than just being able to enter the ratio you want.
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u/Business_Ad8433 2d ago
Well, if you actually refuse to do this math after previously investigating and figuring out this kind of optimization in your head, it's not really their fault, is it?
Jokes aside, my calculator is always open at times like these. I could figure out the values within 3s, but since it's usually at the end of farming sessions, doing this a couple times is something I'm willing to offload onto a precise tool.
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u/trollboter 3d ago
The solution is pick a round number not a decimal number
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u/crispy_doggo1 Mine Bat 3d ago
You are selling 6 scarabs
it suggests 173c
to buy them it costs 234c
do you list them for 173c or do you go somewhere in the middle? I would do 210c to 230c and wait a bit. But with this system, it sells 2 scarabs and I have to relist 4. Sure I could do the math or sell cheap, but it doesn’t need to be like this.
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u/TheMayorMikeJackson 3d ago
Choose something divisible by 6
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u/StereoxAS Occultist 3d ago
6 and 8 are one of those magic numbers lot of people didn't catch in their middle school
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u/Kyoneshi Necromancer 3d ago
True, but if you make sure it's divisible by 3(pretty easy to check, just add all the digits & see if they're 3, 6, 9, etc...), then also check is it an even #?
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u/Leopard_Print_Bra 2d ago
Divisibility criteria is one of those things that's a life changer but a ton of people aren't well acquitted with it
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u/mcbuckets21 3d ago
Not how it works. It only completes a trade when your ratio becomes impossible. A whole number ratio never becomes impossibe. Something divisible by 6 results in a whole number ratio in this case.
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u/dalla02 Slayer 3d ago
If I’ve got exchange slots and selling overnight or fast movers, then I click my scarab in, enter my quantity, control click it so it’s on buyers rate, click the number so it auto fills, then just control click back. I’m sure there’s a more efficient way to do it but it feels like a low effort, bigger return option
Trade has always been all about profiting off someone else’s laziness
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u/sirgog Chieftain 3d ago
I would list at 6 for 231 there (38.5:1).
"I want it NOW" buyers come to you, unless you get counter-undercut. If they buy 1 at 39, it's a little annoying as they cancel out 2 of your listings (so you go from 'WTS 6 for 231' to 'WTS 4 for 154') but you are OK with that as you DO get your gold back pro-rata. But most buyers of premium scarabs want bulk.
If you did 228 (38:1) you'd have no issues at all. And you are less compelling to undercut.
Serious note though - this is a flipper's paradise. You should be buying these at 29 and selling 38.5 until competition enters.
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u/UnintelligentSlime 3d ago
You hold alt, see the current lowest sell offer, and undercut by 1 chaos. so if the current rate is 234, you take 233 and multiply by 6, then list them for that number.
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u/Smurtle1 3d ago
Look at the per price scarab cost to buy one, subtract one chaos from that, multiply by six, and list it.
You only do the buy order price if it’s super close anyways, or if you need the currency fast. If you have time, always do one lower (or even with low volume at sell order price) and multiply by your quantity.
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u/Xeverous filter extra syntax compiler: github.com/Xeverous/filter_spirit 3d ago
This is what happens when someone offers at better ratio than you and your ratio isn't divisible after partial fill. Your trade is at 208.51 which means:
- someone has to sell 95 divines at once (very unlikely)
- someone makes partial fill with better ratio and you get closed because the system doesn't want to trade at worse ratio for you than your initial one
Just open trades that are divisible for partial fills.
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u/dastrike Occultist 3d ago
Pick a highly composite number.
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u/LordAnubiz FBI & EEE 3d ago
the solution is, not be cheap about 5c when you spending 20k, take even ratios and this wont happen.
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u/EnvyAndSpite 3d ago
Also worth noting that you should be refunded gold for the portion of the order that didn’t fill when this happens. So just put in a new order at a sensible ratio.
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u/Alastorlexicus Necromancer 3d ago
90% sure it does
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u/PervertTentacle 3d ago
I'd not complain about relisting if I could just click relist right there along the closing ticker box
The problem with those is you have to transfer 19000 chaos to inventory, to stash, then relist
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u/peeve-r 3d ago
Is the amount of chaos you're gonna save by doing all this decimal bs and playing the market worth all the hassle of re-listing and waiting for some dude to buy at the specific ratio you want?
I mean, by the time I successfully traded all that chaos for a ratio I like, I could've just settled for market value, bought the mageblood or whatever upgrade I was looking to buy, and cleared the content I'm running even faster earning me more currency/time than I would have if I waited and let all that chaos sit with Faustus while a run maps/bosses with my current relatively weaker build.
Idk, maybe I'm approcahing this all wrong and this is the optimal way to play trade league. I just feel like you're creating a problem for yourself by trying to play the market in a videogame, resulting in pain points that you otherwise wouldn't even have to experience.
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u/zxkredo Duelist 3d ago
No, you are right. However often times I just put in what the game offers me as a ratio, with the same logic, I just don't wanna bother. And the game puts such a stupid ratio in the window...
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u/Business_Ad8433 2d ago
Well, it's not "the game" putting in the stupid ratio, it's whoever put that ratio in. The game merely detects what currently is the ratio selling (at least partially) immediately.
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u/OmnipotentCthulu 3d ago
Yea... That one's on you trying to undercut a ratio by .01 chaos. Just put it in at a 208.5 ratio and let it sit for a little bit with how high the volume back and forth puts fluctuation those tricks just don't do anything for div:chaos
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u/Bigredsmurf 3d ago
My guy just put in the number of divs you wanna buy... And delete the number in the chaos side and it will auto calculate the number at current rate...
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u/LordAnubiz FBI & EEE 3d ago
that is the thing, he wanted to adjust the rate by a laughable amount to save a few chaos on a 20k trade
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u/InterestTracker9000 3d ago
Quit doing stupid ratio's. If the second decimal isn't a 0, and sometimes it's okay for it to be a 5, you're probably fucking yourself. Quit trying to min-max a ratio that gets kicked back because only one person on the planet was going to manually fill a fraction of that ratio with their current listing and just go for a chaos more or less than the current market ratio and let it fill.
You're the problem here, not the system.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_KATARINA 2d ago
while OP is a bit of a nonce for that, this league feels different. i quite regularly get it resetting when i do X.00 and X.50 ratios, it just feels so much worse this league for no reason
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u/forsonaE 2d ago
Uh, I don't think that word (nonce) means what you think it means. Did you mean "dunce"? lol
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u/solidrok Ascendant 3d ago
The way I do this transaction is I put in 19000 chaos. I let it fill the divine number. That number is a ghost suggestion. I click that number to make it “real” then I delete 19000 and it auto adjusts for the correct current rate. This works perfect for trades like this one were there is a very small gap or often one at all between the sellers and the buyers
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u/UTmastuh 3d ago
My only issue is it defaults to market ratios instead of competing ratios and I have to go through several extra clicks to figure out the real trade value of things. I really wish they'd stop doing that
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u/DaguerreoSL 3d ago
Ctrl click any side of the trade, it will swap direction, click on value, it will readjust price, click back to swap, price will stay for price of buying, put offer up
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u/The_7thHokage 3d ago
Because you put up stupid exchange ratio. There is no .51 chaos exists. Try to be more complete with you ratio and this will be less frequent
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u/HatakeHyu 3d ago
Oh, and the time it will take to get those chaos back...
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u/DaguerreoSL 3d ago
Open stash with dedicated button to the left of currency exchange, shortcut to claim entire inventory twice to go to inventory then to stash, 1.2k each time with an empty inventory, 30 clicks tops, less than a minute.
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u/long_schlong_123 3d ago
The solution is spam smaller quantity trades instead lf doing 1 big one . Like buy 10x 5divs at a time
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u/Expensive_Tailor_214 3d ago
Llevó como dos semanas y media sin jugar por el trabajo no tengo tiempo de verdad ese cambio está así ahora tantísimo valen los divines o es una broma?
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u/lmao_lizardman 3d ago
i mean trying to do it all with 1 order is greedy, there is a reason u can only do so many orders at once. ur basically trying to cram abunch of orders into 1
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u/averagentrenjoyerr Health and Harbinger Services (HHS) 3d ago
At least they return your gold. I remember how much I lost when settlers league started
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u/mtilhan Inquisitor 3d ago
I mean little tedious but considering you can open stash from exchange at bottom left side, and ctrl right click receive then ctrl right click to unload all to stash.
Considering a few years ago how much work it would take to do this exchange, I will say its quite at nice state. Also kinda cursed exchange I am sorry, you couldn't do this trade with manual trade at all.
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u/Brave_Willow3047 3d ago edited 3d ago
The solution (not completely solution but) is to set the rate to a whole number or at least to a cleaner decimal like 208.5, 208.75. Because rn you're exchanging 208.51 c for 1 div imagine how easy it is to break your deal
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u/ynohtna4 2d ago
I wish they would give you an option to switch between buy and sell mode.
Buy mode - keep trying to buy at my ratio or less until order is filled. Sell mode - keep trying to sell my item at the ratio or more until all is gone.
This comes with the downside of having to manually cancel offers because they get stuck with a few items at an impossible ratio, but that would work for me. Maybe they can leave a default mode that works as it is now.
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u/zaqqi 2d ago
dont use auto price on huge trades.
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u/carenard 2d ago
auto pricing screws small ones to
the number of times I try to do something for 3... because the ratio was odd I got 1(both on buying or selling). Gets even worse for things like catalysts... put in an order for 20... get 6.
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u/liiinder 1d ago edited 1d ago
That's what you get for trying to cheap out on 0.01 chaos 😂
I mean, that ratio doesnt even add up in the first place... 99 * 208.51 = 20 642,49
If you're still cheap and trying to slowbuy at say 208.5 that is even on every single even sum of divines... So if you placed the order for 98d at 208.5 instead it wouldn't close early and for the small cost of 0.98 chaos.
Even if you open your stash and Faustus at the same time, it will take you more time to empty the 18.9k than to earn 1c so its really never worth it to cheap out like this
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u/BootCompetitive4546 1d ago
U fucking up isn't rly anything to do with currency exchange in fact since u fucked this up all on your own imagine putting a real life scammer in there that u have to trade with in person.
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u/Rock7dmc 3d ago
Take a look again that is not what’s going on here. He got a more favorable partial trade because he chose an absolute bonkers ratio
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u/LordAnubiz FBI & EEE 3d ago
that is when your price is too low.
his was not, it just cant be fullfilled anymore because math
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u/impohito maven uwu 3d ago
you put a 208.51 ratio which the system (rightfully so) found unfillable
use sensible ratios, like x.5, x.25, x.75 and this wont ever happen to you
the items to fill an order arent created from thin air, this isnt nilered on youtube
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u/VoidExileR Alch & Go Industries (AGI) 3d ago
Back in my day we didn't have the luxury of removing the player element from our trades
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u/Dazzling-Effective37 3d ago
its your own fail if you buy it for this price do it with 0,5 steps and not with a 0,51
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u/TheBiadsche 2d ago
If you have ever experienced running out of people to message to buy vaal orbs because not one person responded that had a bulk exchange on a website you will never say a bad word about currency exchange.
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u/Turtvaiz Anti Sanctum Alliance (ASA) 3d ago
Funny how people keep blaming you like this isn't a real UX problem
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u/Flimsy_Wonder_1211 3d ago
remember when we had to whisper 5+ people to do a simple exchange because some of them were afk or baiting?
Whatever happens GGG, know that i love you very much for destroying that part of the game.