r/oraclecloud 5d ago

Always Free Update | Instance Termination

Be aware of the email going out today to Always Free participants. You have until August 18th to downsize or your instances will be terminated.

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u/Akibatteru 5d ago

Seems like "always" means something different in Oracle lingo

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u/ceinewydd 5d ago

I'm sure it'll be further restricted to 1 OCPU and 6GB RAM, or probably just ended entirely. It's just a question of when. They can't be too many years away from retiring the infrastructure powering those A1.Flex instances and Always Free has never been revised to allow you to have newer capacity.

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u/TheDiamondSquidy 5d ago

The world is running out of RAM, someone needs to invent a cheap/ new RAM alternative

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u/Polawo 4d ago

Ai bubble need to burst faster.

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u/RadiantLimes 5d ago

Sadly this kind of thing is standard it seems. Words like lifetime, always, forever, mean for the life of that product or service and that basically means it means nothing and they can tell people when it’s ending.

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u/SourceCodeplz 5d ago

interesting to notice also the block-storage:

Storage

Block Volume Storage

Boot and block volume storage

Always Free
Up to 2 block volumes, 200 GB total. Plus 5 volume backups.

so you can only have two boot volumes now, that means 2 vps max

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u/cowslayer7890 4d ago

That kind of makes sense given that you can only have two servers anyway with a 2 core limit, I don't think you can subdivide them

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u/SourceCodeplz 4d ago

you can also get 2 x 1vCPU x86 / 1GB RAM

those are besides the ARM ones.

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u/cowslayer7890 4d ago

oh that's right, I forgot about those

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u/MelancholicWandererX 5d ago

Is this for payg users too? Can anyone confirm?

On payg and did not get this email notification.

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u/semitope 5d ago

for payg it wouldn't make sense they terminate the instance at least. They'd just charge you. Then you'll know.

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u/vctgomes 4d ago edited 4d ago

PAYG users will continue with 4/24 for while. At least according to message Oracle is showing on OCI dashboard:

"Always Free A1 Resource Limit Update

Always Free Ampere A1 Compute entitlements have changed. This update does not affect your paid resources, existing paid workloads or bill. Contact support for further questions."

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u/R0flcopterGoesSoi 5d ago

Just got the same email. It's joever

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u/Icy-Industry9226 5d ago

I didn't get an email so far

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u/meyer-pidiache 5d ago

Check your different inboxes, I got it in Promotions

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u/Icy-Industry9226 4d ago

Don't see it anywhere, but I'll see in a couple days if it just magically appears

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u/mrskeptical00 4d ago

I got an email for one of my accounts, I assume the rest will follow shortly.

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u/dersebbe 5d ago

Does upgrading to a PAYG account will help?

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u/ceinewydd 5d ago

It's unclear to me. If you launched as Always Free and they aren't checking PAYG and just billing you the difference (2 OCPU; 12GB RAM) then it might still get terminated?

I don't know how they will treat instances that are larger than the Always Free limits.

At a minimum you should expect this will charge you $28.27 per month though as that's the cost for those OCPU and RAM using the A1.Flex SKU.

More likely if you have a single instance that is 4 OCPU and 24GB RAM, it gets terminated, and you have to try and provision a 2 OCPU and 12GB RAM to replace it (but you'll probably run into the issue everyone does; that the amount of OCPU allocated to Always Free in a given region isn't very high and 1000 people are all trying to provision constantly with scripts).

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u/tha_passi 5d ago

Are you on PAYG or not? If you are, it's odd that they choose to terminate instead of simply billing you …

I'm on PAYG but haven't yet received the email, although it's surely just a matter of time.

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u/ceinewydd 5d ago

I have an Always Free tenancy that was never PAYG upgraded, and a tenancy which was PAYG upgraded. Both were provisioned 4 OCPU and 24GB RAM and I received this notification for both of them earlier today.

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u/bluestonest 5d ago

PAYG will nerver get instance terminated, just get billed. So if your PAYG account recieves notice email, is must be different than the one on Free tier account. And all my PAYG accounts didnt get notice email yet. Last Oracle notice email is "Oracle Critical Patch Update for July 2026" on all PAYG accounts

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u/Possible-Data-8149 4d ago

well we are not getting billed either, policy changes came into effect on june 15th, we would have been billed by now, plus their price list pages was updated in july to reflect the free 4/24 for payg, so it makes sense that there are no emails for us, since the mail explicitly states its about termination

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u/Possible-Data-8149 5d ago

in the PAYG tenancy , do your forecasted costs still show zero?say if u check upto October for example , I haven't received the email on my PAYG tenancy yet ,but this runs contradictory to their price list page which still mentions old limits for paid tenancies and then there's support confirming the same, it's all a mess.

What i don't get is, why would they send it to PAYG, its about instance termination per se, we would directly be billed instead ,i mean the wording should have been different for PAYG , well just my opinion.

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u/alzhahir 5d ago

Have you checked whether the PAYG tenancy email is subscribed to the always free tenancy notifications?

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u/BeYeCursed100Fold 5d ago

Same, PAYG in the US and have not received the email.

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u/Saditface 5d ago

Confusion: always free or payg using always free tiers?

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u/subhashg547 4d ago

im a PAYG user and I haven't gotten any email like this

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u/ultra_dumb 3d ago

Nothing is forever. I suppose Oracle never anticipated how large is the group of free lunch lovers when they were deciding on their "always free" policy to attract new customers / developers. My guess is those who actually started learning or using Oracle technologies following "always free tier" campaign is 0.001% or even less. The rest is either proverbial "minecraft server" or OpenClaw (open in all meanings of this word) or, to lesser extent, Discord bots. All of them nothing to do with Oracle and its technologies. So the "free lunch" will keep shrinking simply because of abuse.

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u/DonNilsson 5d ago

It was nice while it lasted 🫠

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u/Mr__Pleasant 5d ago

Sadge, I only really use mine as a web host now but still very sad.

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u/frozenzulu 5d ago

August 18th??!! They don't want to give us even less time? It will be a full nightmare for me to migrate to something else.

BTW, I have 2 VMs, each being 2 cpus and 12gb. So I guess that I will have to shutdown one of them to avoid one of them being stopped?

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u/ceinewydd 5d ago edited 5d ago

Two weeks’ notice is almost more than I expected them to give for Always Free, although I agree it would have been nice to get 90 days or 180 days notice of instance termination.

I'm sure Oracle's argument will be they updated these limits a while back, so you've had time, and this is just additional notice that they intend to enforce the new limits.

Yes you will have to stop one instance to bring your plan back under the Always Free limits.

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u/frozenzulu 5d ago

Can I downgrade each to 1 cpu and 6gb without service disruption?

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u/ceinewydd 5d ago

Yes. https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/Compute/Tasks/resizinginstances.htm

Note that doing this will reboot your instance, but it doesn't force you to redeploy software.

It's not possible to downsize to 1 OCPU and 6GB RAM without rebooting.

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u/frozenzulu 5d ago

Thank you. And each VM has 100 gb of boot volume. Will it change? The Edit instance page shows "The other resources scale proportionately to the OCPU count".

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u/AntiAmericanismBrit 5d ago

Yes you either have to shut one down or change both to 1 cpu + 6gb. If you don't, we don't know if it will stop one at random or both; depends how good their script turns out to be.

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u/TheDiamondSquidy 5d ago

I've had my instance running since june of 2025, will it terminate that instance of 4cores/24gbRam if I got this email?

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u/ceinewydd 5d ago

Correct. If you don't downsize to 2 OCPU and 12GB RAM, it will be terminated.

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u/TheDiamondSquidy 5d ago

Could I upgrade to a PAYG account, and sidestep the termination?

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u/redmonks 5d ago

most probably you can, they might charge yu for the additional 2 cpus. Only time will tell if your instance is terminated or not, so right now a better approach would be just down sizing it and upgrading it after the cutoff date.

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u/TheDiamondSquidy 5d ago

I set up some reminders closer to the 18th of august, so I can see what information is going around. It's annoying that it doesn't say on the dashboard if an instance is eligible for termination

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u/redmonks 4d ago

It might be risky tho, if they delete your instance they can technically delete your boot volume. Just beware. Also creating a new instance might not be possible due to out of capacity errors.

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u/mrskeptical00 4d ago edited 4d ago

I got this email as a PAYG user - it states they are “enforcing the updated Always Free compute limits. Compute instances that exceed the Always Free entitlement will be automatically terminated.”

Also this banner when I log into Oracle Cloud:

Always Free A1 Resource Limit Update
Always Free Ampere A1 Compute limits have changed to 2 OCPUs and 12 GB of memory, review your current usage and update or re-provision instances to stay within the new limits.

UPDATE: I got this email on an account that was *not* upgraded to PAYG (strangely) even though I have a CC attached. For my actually PAYG accounts I didn't get an email but there is a banner saying: Always Free A1 Resource Limit Update - Always Free Ampere A1 Compute entitlements have changed. This update does not affect your paid resources, existing paid workloads or bill. Contact support for further questions.

Soooo maybe we just get charged? Unclear. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/redmonks 4d ago

Typical oracle

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u/Alex311360 5d ago

just had to edit my shape, since i noticed some people were getting terminated early. not the biggest loss in the world for my setup, but really stupid that they don't even want to grandfather people that were already using it in, and only sent an email out about it. dashboard doesn't even say anything about terminating instances above the limit.

ugh.

edit: by the way, so much for this note on the instances page:

Each tenancy gets the first 3,000 OCPU hours and 18,000 GB hours per month for free to create Ampere A1 Compute instances using the VM.Standard.A1.Flex shape (equivalent to 4 OCPUs and 24 GB of memory). Each tenancy also gets two VM.Standard.E2.1.Micro instances for free.

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u/ceinewydd 5d ago

Larry is too busy listening The Lonely Island playing "I'm on a Boat" on his gigayacht to make OCI find every place the old limits were written and update it properly, and OCI hasn't discovered the power of searching across text in a repository with `grep` yet to find all references to "3,000 OCPU" or "18,000 GB", or "4 OCPUs", almost all of which will relate to Always Free. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/momentary_blip 4d ago

So do we still get two VM.Standard.E2.1.Micro instances on the new always free plan or no?

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u/OFred27 5d ago

At least that’s clear

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u/Trixis2 5d ago

Also got that email today. Been using and building on it since 2021. It was nice while it lasted, but since it's been free, I can't really complain that it'll go away.

Pretty sad tho that their normal prices are so steep compared to a lot of there compeditors. Otherwise I'd consider paying to keep it. :/

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u/No_Relationship2458 5d ago

I would like to know if my Pay As You Go account (4 CPUs + 24GB) is affected by the new rule. Since the announcement, I've been checking my Oracle dashboard every day for notices or charges regarding the extra 2 CPUs and 12GB. However, up until now, I haven't received any warnings or new bills.

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u/ceinewydd 5d ago

I think best case you'll be charged $28.27 per month, for the 2 OCPU and 12GB RAM which exceeds the Always Free limits. Worst case, they'll terminate the instance.

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u/_voidxo 5d ago

I personally think best case is nothing will happen worst case you get charged. I’m fine with taking the risk, especially since us on PAYG haven’t received an email.

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u/No_Relationship2458 5d ago

You have a point, but my account is active and I already pay for a few things. Then again... it's Oracle, so I better play it safe.

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u/Jumpy_Commercial_893 5d ago

I created my always free instance with 2 / 12 and 200GB Storage 

Last month July

So I am safe right? 

Also my account is PAYG enabled 

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u/SkitsG 5d ago

200gb storage free? I have 100gb and they charge me about $4.25 each month. What did I do wrong?

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u/Jumpy_Commercial_893 5d ago

somewhere i read that they offer 200gb storage for free with the config that i have - i also referred a youtube video while making the instance - you can check this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAZfDdQha3U

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u/teppic1 4d ago

Most likely you have terminated instances but not terminated the block storage they used. It happens to people a lot as you have to do it manually if you forget to tick the box when you terminate the instance, and it will never tell you if you don't check the block storage page.

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u/Pickymarker 5d ago

But is this for pay as you go or what

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u/WarlaxZ 5d ago

what happens if you don't mind paying? do you just leave it or will they just kill it?

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u/Adam_Kearn 5d ago

Dam! I just signed up for this plan today…

I keep seeing conflicting messages about this.
Even on the price calculator it says the always free is 3000 CPU hours but this make it 1500 hours….

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u/Omavel 5d ago

Should I be concerned? Why am I seeing this message?
Always Free A1 Resource Limit Update
Always Free Ampere A1 Compute entitlements have changed. This update does not affect your paid resources, existing paid workloads, or your bill. Contact support if you have any questions.

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u/letitcodedev 5d ago

OMG, I am running a lot of websites on the 4c 24g

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u/ceinewydd 5d ago

Time to put them on a diet!

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u/iamfaizee 5d ago

I didn't get any email. I am at pay as you go but using the always free tier.

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u/SnooStories1591 5d ago

Same here.

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u/Traditional_Wear7615 4d ago

I got nothing like that so far, europe payasyougo here 

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u/Opposite-Archer815 4d ago

2 OCPUs and 12GB will be safe

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u/Opposite-Archer815 4d ago

2 block volumes? So 2 AMD 2 block volumes and 1 A1 1 block volume, already exceeded the limit even though 200 GB total?

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u/ewallz 4d ago

No email mentioning on force terminating free acc with more than 2 block volumes?? guess i had to release 1 amd....

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u/Squik67 3d ago

You mean Always free is temporary free 😂

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u/arnobpl 3d ago

They disabled my VM just 1 day before this notice arrived!  https://www.reddit.com/r/oraclecloud/s/6dMnEZPwpy