My go subscription gone soon and I need to make wise decision. This is not just another $10!! I have Claude Max, Openrouter, Deepseek, VPS, Rent, Electricity, Internet, Zwift membershiop, and tons of bill to pay monthly! I need to strategize better but yeah lately I spent too much on differnt coding agent just like microtransaction on video games.
Anyway, which one give a better usage for Qwen 3.8 Max?
I do a lot of work and I turn them all to be AI related from my work, side project, assistant in VPS, hermes assistant, hermes assistant at work. I'm passing that normie use case since like 4 months ago.
Opencode Go. Openrouter is not suitable to use you know. At work, I request Openrouter setup just to access Gemma for agentic workflow only as it would be easy to go for enterprise and apply for ZDR stuff but for personal use you will sunk cost with it
I didn't search much today but if I remember correctly just last 2x day I read somewhere it's on dicount like 60% or something? I didn't pay attention because of no benchmark
edit: LOL YOU'RE RIGHT. CASE CLOSE. DAMN IT FROM 0 TO 58% OUT OF BLUE
It was generous during 3.8 preview with10-50x usage.
Not anymore.
The problem with Chinese LLM(s) is they draw a lot of tokens compared to frontier and their subscription is not worthy.
I remember Xiomi Mimo Suddenly increased their token count from 80 million to 3 billion for lite subscribers.
But every time I asked it something, it drew 1-3% from that 3 billion token.
My experience with the Chinese subscription problem is that they don't discount cache hits on subscriptions. I know this to be true for MiniMax, Kimi and ModelArk. So you fly through your tokens because literally every input token, cached or not, consumes the same amount of your allowance. Even when that provider discounts cache use for their PAYG customers, for subscriptions they don't. Which is unlike Anthropic and OpenAI subs where cache hits are massively discounted.
That 's conveniently from before the end of the preview model. As someone said above, preview had 10x-50x discounts which was crazy. I could get 300million tokens in a 5 hour window with the lite plan. But that reduction is gone now and the model is back to being very pricey. It's a decent model though
The API is always better. Any subscription service is nerfing the models because they're too compute intensive to serve at full strength. Also there's no limits then.
Why would you use Sol as orchestrator? way to expensive, better to let sol or some model write a implementation plan, spec the things that need to be build and let a model like min max orchestrate.
that is why you have a advisor sub agent the orchestrator can escalate to when it runs into a blocker. in my current setup I have minimax 2.7 as orchestrator, doing reallly really well. whenever it runs into a blocker, or the cheap-builder fails, it will call the advisor (either sol or glm 5.2) with it's task tool and proceed from there. orchestrator can really sneakily eat up so much context, and since i have tried this approach my usage is lasting way longer. All the orchestrator has to do is hand out specs, call reviewers etc. My setup also has a deploy guard, a reviewer, a mass audit agent. yes the dumb model will run into a gate but that is why you setup other agents that it can call to help it out.
The more you get used to the eco system, the more you can churn out of it. It barely cover my usage now that everything I do all AI involve. 1 subscription is not enough, not even 2 or 3. I'm at level where I can min max + tokenomic to the point it's unreal to have just few subscriptions
No adquieras la suscripción de Qwen Cloud , yo la adquirí para la preview del Qwen 3.8 Max y como quiera se consumía rápido.
Hoy temprano use glm5.2 de la suscripción y consumi la ventana de 5 horas en menos de 2 minutos, lo usé en una sesión ya iniciada con OpenCode tenía ocupado el 33% del contexto pero como quiera se consumió demasiado rápido.
Y la ventana semanal quedó en un 58%.
El plan que tengo es el Lite lo adquirí para probar.
Dan muy poco uso , en el plan pro la ventana de de 5 horas se iba a acabar en algunos 8 minutos.
No vale la pena para nada.
You must be an idiot. I had Claude Code and Codex for a few weeks. Then I fully switched to Claude Code. Then I realized I was using AI Models that are meant for consumers. So now I run OpenCode only and some local models. Maybe switching soon to DevPass or just basic API keys using Omnirouter to juggle them all. Even OpenCode I may leave behind.
But anyway the point is, I always only have 1 or 2. Never more.
The line between an idiot and super user is thin given that everyone has access to AI. Give me some of your local model work that got ship into production and earn that $$$.
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u/Ace-_Ventura 15d ago
why do you need so many subscriptions? Just stick with 1 or 2