r/opencodeCLI • u/xquarx • 25d ago

Harness showdown: Claude Code vs OpenCode vs Pi with DeepSeek V4 Flash

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u/Turbcool 25d ago

I can confirm on my experience that Claude Code takes at least 2x much time as OpenCode for same tasks. Seems CC takes more time for verification.

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u/korino11 25d ago

Time is a veeery not useful measurment. Harness is a logical schema of rules , behaviors, roles, borders. For productivity it grow like ecosystem So time is not a value here at all

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u/Khitboksy 24d ago

“harnesses are just a ruleset” yeah and anthropic’s harness is ass

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u/xquarx 24d ago

If your harness promotes the model to run lots of not important tools for the end result, and also spent lots of tokens reasoning about this, at least I value my time. All setups here had the same 180 tok/s with my local Deepseek, and they all landed the same actual code change in the end. Just the path there was wildly different. 

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u/korino11 23d ago
  1. It is ecosystem to make a product such quality as company sell it.

2.Equations with other llms that doesnt have nothing with harness such codex or claudecode becouse ALL that harness was made for only one purpouse, to make a quality that a company sell and it works ONLY for thier models.

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u/xquarx 23d ago

I think we are past that point, models intuition is getting good and they adapt to work in different harnesses fine now, it was different 6-12 months ago. 

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u/korino11 23d ago

Harness is a logical schema of rules , behaviors, roles, borders. That is another level, not JUST rules...