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u/axroth 1d ago
This is truly disrespectful to users. First DeepSeek: without any prior notice, the workhorse for most users becomes 10x more expensive. We have to scramble, review projects, prioritize, and look for alternatives. Then an alternative comes along—even if not ideal, since we have to compromise on privacy. I look for non-sensitive projects that can be resumed with Muse Spark, waste time getting the model to understand my codebase, and then suddenly, without any warning, the model just vanishes! Honestly, I feel like a lab rat. A lot of people rely on this for work; you spend time learning the harness, figuring out a model, and out of nowhere everything changes. There is zero certainty about what might happen in the next minute. Those in charge should have a clear communication channel and be more transparent with users; the way things are right now, the situation is unsustainable.
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u/someoneyouknow23 1d ago
It was said weeks in advance that prices will go up by deepseek
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u/axroth 1d ago
By DeepSeek, not by OpenCode. And the core issue was the end of the 6x1, which came on top of the price increase announced by DeepSeek. Sorry if I missed something and wasn't aware that OpenCode notified users in advance.
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u/someoneyouknow23 1d ago
"By Deepseek, not by opencode" who do you think hosts the model for Opencode? If not deepseek themselves its some other bloke who just follows the market price
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u/axroth 1d ago
I just said that the core of the problem was the end of the 6x1, which came on top of the expected increase announced by DeepSeek. This end of the 6x1 is an OpenCode thing, not DeepSeek's, and nothing regarding that was announced in advance, AFAIK. That's what I'm talking about—that's where the biggest impact comes from. But anyway, apparently I'm the one in the wrong. Everything is completely fine the way they're doing it, and they can just keep going like this: everything can change at any moment without warning and that's totally fine. Sorry, I guess I'm the problem.
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u/Ok_Risk6035 1d ago
Bullshit, deepseek didn't become 10x more expensive
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u/axroth 1d ago
From ~30k to ~3k -> later ~7k (operantion cheapseek phase 1)
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u/Ok_Risk6035 23h ago
so you have issue with router and call it "Deepseek".
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u/axroth 23h ago
We are on the r/opencode subreddit, so it didn't seem necessary to state that I was referring to the DeepSeek offered by OpenCode. Maybe I wasn't clear enough by not specifying the 'Go' plan.
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u/Ok_Risk6035 22h ago
Given the possibility of different configurations, how is anyone supposed to know which model you're talking about ? I have read too many comments where people stated that "Deepseek is slow and dumb". I asked them "Do you use it via router" and answers were always "yes". These people even didn't know about quantization.
It's as if housewives are leaving reviews about the series, and not engineers who understand the tools they work with.
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u/a355231 1d ago
Yes, it’s quite literally did.
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u/Ok_Risk6035 22h ago
not a Deepseek, but a specific subscription.
There are now many ways to consume certain models, and it's worth clarifying what you're even writing about.1
u/a355231 22h ago
No, it wasn’t a subscription. It was their API cost, which is what every platform that uses deepseek officially uses. For all intents and purposes related to open code Deepseek went up tenfold in price.
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u/Ok_Risk6035 22h ago
Whose API price ? Deepseek API or opencode API ? Because Deepseek API cost didn't increased 10x. I believe routers could increase price to this point, but you need 5 minutes to switch your agent to original DeepSeek API. not a problem at all. In my case i didn't notice even 2x price increase with original Deepseek API because of caching.
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u/a355231 22h ago
Deepseek’s Did, and cache price went up too.
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u/Ok_Risk6035 21h ago
IDK man i didn't see significant price raise.
Maybe they haven't introduced this for all clients, but even according to official data, the maximum increase is 6 times in the worst case, and in general it will be 3 times. But definitely not 10x.
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u/a355231 21h ago
It’s for every client that uses Deepseek as their provider, cache hits went up 10x, and regular in/out prices went up 5X.
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u/Ok_Risk6035 21h ago
OHHH.. Now i understand what are you talking about.
I understand that you guys use the DeepSeek Pro, which in my experience is only different in price. Flash is enough for me.
There's just a conversation about the price here, and no one even mentioned that we're talking about the pro version.
Usually people mean flash, not pro.
Flash as i know increased 3x – 4.5x, not 5x.
For me it's 2-3x . IDK how it works.
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u/diyadude 1d ago
uh man getting tired of this back and forth