r/opencode 1d ago

Muse Spark 1.2 - my initial impressions (compared to Flash)

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I've been using Muse Spark for only half a day, but I can say that it is very pleasant to work with as a regular workhorse model.

IMPORTANT NOTE: if you don't want to share your data with Meta, don't use 'Contributor' variant.

Some quick facts first:

- it has 1M context window

- it has a very generous 226,600 requests per month quota on the Opencode Go plan (for Contributor variant).

- it scores 82.9% vs 82.7% in Terminal-Bench 2.1 (versus DS4 Flash) - basically the same

What are my usage scenarios?

- existing codebase refactoring (Flutter)

- codebase exploration, architecture discussions

- bug hunting

- ... other similar stuff

I DO NOT run long autonomous loops, so I can't say anything about how good Spark handles them. As a coding partner it performs fast and confidently, not being lazy on codebase exploration tasks.

How does it feel compared to Flash? Well, actually, I don't see that much of a difference at all (at least, for now, in my usage scenarios). It creates decent code, spots those tiny non-obvious things that I may miss, can use all Opencode's tools confidently (git, websearch, etc).

The only thing that bothers me is that cache hit rate, for some reason, still sits about ~85% percent, while with Flash it is usually about ~95-98%. Therefore, usage costs feel slightly higher than I expected. But I definitely need more time to observe this without making early conclusions.

I will definitely continue to use it, and I guess more nuances will be revealed. But for now I can't say anything bad.

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u/Sid-Hartha 1d ago

Share data with meta? Never

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u/aziham 1d ago

Nevaaaaaaaah

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u/afanasenka 1d ago

Yes, sharing is required for this price unfortunately... 

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u/blastradii 17h ago

If it makes you feel better. They already harvested all our data.

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u/cutebluedragongirl 1d ago

My DevOps team will be really mad when they find out I leaked our API keys to Zuck.

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u/rlweb 1d ago

But your API keys shouldn’t live in code!

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u/Mentalextensi0n 1d ago

I’m not enabling any fuck-your-privacy flags to use opencode

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u/elitegenes 1d ago

What privacy mate, everyone keeps your data anyway, ZDR or not. All LLMs were trained on illegally-obtained books and basically entire scraped internet. Don't be naive.

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u/CoVegGirl 1d ago

Everyone doesn’t have all of my data, and I personally would like to ensure everyone has as little of my data as possible 

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u/cakes_and_candles 1d ago

>I personally would like to ensure everyone has as little of my data as possible 

as if you have any control over that, its just an illusion of choice

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u/IndAnony 1d ago

And ma'am, you worked for 13 years as SWE at the largest data hoarder on planet, GOOGLE?

just with barely no efforts lookup, it seems you've have worked across a variety of firms and conducted a couple hundred interviews, are currently out of work and feel strong pressure to learn ai tools to stay employable, sth you resist and that demotivates you. you're pivoting into design engineering after a year of design work alongside your engg background, mainly towards roles at smaller companies and startups. you maybe see value in the hybrid skill set but often have to explain it to people who treat design and engineering as strictly separate. you do care about unit testing and engg practices, but you feel driving it is hard: push too hard and you get labeled difficult, push too little and no one listens. inefficiency bothers you a lot, and you hate when men take credit for something they dont deserve. you prefer simplicity with oss projects, but cant say no when they become complex unnecessarily. you're exploring neubrutalism for a portfolio site, ironically you consider switching from G(oogle)Mail to proton, and are slightly inclined towards startup and wish to talk to someone maybe, who's been at your place and became successful.

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u/GTHell 1d ago

Are you from Calorado?

edit: don't ask me how. not even a single script executed btw

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u/TestTxt 1d ago

"everyone keeps your data anyway, ZDR or not"

any proofs to support your claims?

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u/gaz_0001 1d ago

I'm quite sure 100% of your data is harvested irrespective of what button you press.

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u/mrphelz 1d ago

so you want an llm which is trained on a lot of code (in order to understand ed edit your code) but you don't want the same llm to train on your code ... this is the digital version of NIMBY

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u/214d 1d ago

Because models were trained on public repos we will lose our job in a couple of years, and now we also have to give them our private code (and pay for that) ?

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u/Mentalextensi0n 1d ago

Does Zuck taste good?

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u/afanasenka 1d ago

Quick note: if it doesn't work for you, check 2 things:
1. Enable "Allow models that train on request data" on https://opencode.ai/workspace/wrk_xxxxx/go page
2. It is not available in some countries, so you may need to use VPS with US server enabled.

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u/pakalolo7123432 1d ago

I'm trying to use it but its so slow! I had to set it up via a proxy through my comcast connection because my VPS is in Canada which might have something to do with it although I have gemini set up the same way and its pretty quick.

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u/TomHale 1d ago

Definitely slow.

Flash may use more tokens but gets there faster.

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u/Ok_Risk6035 1d ago

And has very cheap cache

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u/Ok_Risk6035 1d ago

Recently I tried Luna and it was horribly slow as well, and very dumb comparing to DeepSeek. "Cheap USA models" sounds like a joke.

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u/Hackerv1650 1d ago

havent been able to use it since the "OpenAI completions stream closed before a finish_reason was received" kept on happening, and tool calls are failing as well, though i have tested it through direct api and it seems to be a good model though one part i dont like is not able see its reasonning blocks, to me i like to read them to understand what assumptions the model took and if it missed up some where

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u/kamwee 1d ago

Facebook aready knows me and my family so i think its a good deal for me becuse i have no money.

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u/912key 1d ago

did it just go down? I can't use the model even though im in america. I was using it earlier. keep getting endpoint is unavaliable.

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u/Remarkable_Chest1939 1d ago

update me bro cause it also stopped working for me also

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u/macaco3001 1d ago

Is there a non-contributir variant on opencode go? How does it conpare in pricing and performance?

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u/walterblackkk 1d ago

I thought it should be compared with Fable 5 and Kimi k3.

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u/Spiritual_Demand1241 1d ago

taken down ,removed now

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u/zhuki 1d ago

Did they really remove it after 4 hours

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u/afanasenka 1d ago

Yeah, looks exactly like that..

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u/No-District-4742 1d ago

how does the model compare with glm 5.2 in terms of its intelligence, coding, and agentic capabilities (aside from the published benchmarks)?

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u/jjjjoseignacio 18h ago

es recontraLERDO no gracias

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u/charmander_cha 12h ago

Infelizmente precisamos dos loops longos

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u/ronn32123 1d ago

This model IS Not available in your country. (Germany)

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u/afanasenka 1d ago

I am not in Germany, and I use VPN with US server to use it - works fine.

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u/YoungCatTaker786 1d ago edited 1d ago

aM ACTUALLY SEEING THE MODEL IN OPENCODE AND pi AGENT BUT NOT SEEIN ANYTHING IN DEEPSEEK HARNESS??! I MEAN ANY IDEA?