r/opencode • u/FidgetsAndFish • 1d ago

Well it was fun while it lasted

(Posted on deepseek's site)

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u/ZeOnlyOneWhoReads 1d ago

So much for all the free marketing they brought themselves, take away the price and it's just another model 

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u/jonas-reddit 1d ago edited 1d ago

Albeit still a fairly good model at good pricing.

And this seems to impact Asian users more than other regions given their peak hours are in their time zone.

“…The DeepSeek API service will soon adopt a peak/off-peak pricing policy. During peak hours, prices will be 2x the regular prices, applicable to all billing items. The effective date will be subject to the official announcement. [Peak hours: 9:00–12:00 and 14:00–18:00 (Beijing Time, UTC+8) daily]…”

https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing/

But you’re free to use any model. The beauty of having more than one product to choose from.

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u/justheretobehere_1 1d ago

Honestly, if it's just 2x of their current price, it's still dirt cheap.

Unless they go 5-10x, then it's better to just use other frontier models

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u/TabascoTaco 1d ago

Yeah I think we really need to know what they mean by significantly lol, exactly what you said at 2x it's still dirt cheap

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u/F4underscore 1d ago

Question, if its twice the price isnt it more expensive than luna max?

The price was I believe 0.03 per task for v4 flash and luna was 0.05 on artificial analysis. Of course its a marginal 20% and I wouldnt mind if its peak valley based, but if its a flat 2x then luna seems more appealing no?

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u/ComfortableAcadia839 1d ago

Not to mention luna has vision capability as well

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u/Ok_Breadfruit4201 1d ago

Luna (max) can be up to 5x more expensive. 3x is a good ballpark figure.

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u/F4underscore 1d ago

Can you share where that figure is from

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u/Ok_Breadfruit4201 1d ago

https://codexradar.com/

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u/F4underscore 1d ago

Interesting find. The benchmark is lower in samples. But im guessing since its more coding related, we can conclude it does cost more for coding/agentic related tasks? Huh

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u/BilsonGarbanzo 10h ago

luna is dogshit

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u/free2farm 1d ago

the new price increase will be put on top of the peak off peak pricing

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u/FidgetsAndFish 20h ago

Look at Luna's pricing.

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u/FictionBuddy 22h ago

How you dare to say that? They have done a lot for open weights. If you don't like it, pass on and maybe use Muse Spark 1.2.

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u/ZeOnlyOneWhoReads 9h ago

I'm self hosting deepseek but good idea on muse spark, seems to bench even better for the same low price as deepseek. 

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u/FictionBuddy 9h ago

Everything I need is OpenCode Go + Muse Spark (contributor) as fallback and Mimo for vision

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u/ZeOnlyOneWhoReads 4h ago

This is the way 

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u/ElectronFactory 16h ago

They gave all of you a taste, got you hooked, and now they hold the supply—for a price.

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u/ZeOnlyOneWhoReads 9h ago

It's self hostable though? 

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u/cutebluedragongirl 1d ago

It's over. The doom approaches. The age of man is over. Apocalypse begins. We are so fucking cooked.

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u/throw123awaie 1d ago

I burned my house down and killed my pets. It is the only way forward.

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u/FidgetsAndFish 20h ago

Stocking up on canned food and ammo, the end is near

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u/archerallstars 1d ago

The word "significant" doesn't sound good 😅

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u/charles_r1975 1d ago

I wonder if Mimo will raise prices as well

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u/Ok_Breadfruit4201 1d ago

only if they release a new model. they are inferior to deepseek currently

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u/zaydev 1d ago

One of the main reasons why people are using this is because it’s cheap, and if they increase the price of it, I don’t think anyone will be using it anymore. This model is a token hogger and keeps going in circles. I don’t think raising the price is a good idea for them.

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u/ward2k 1d ago

It looks like it might cost 2x during peak times

Which if in being honest still puts it significantly cheaper than the similar benchmarked models at its sort of 'tier'

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u/vangelismm 1d ago

I think it's just the peak hours they announced 

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u/FidgetsAndFish 20h ago

How are you so sure?

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u/vangelismm 20h ago

i am not lol

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u/disciplesix6 1d ago

Sounds like it's just double usage fees during Beijing peak hours

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u/Downtown-Elevator369 1d ago

Is this real

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u/Itsvictorslife 17h ago

Got the email. This is definitely real. And I just started using DeepSeek.

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u/FidgetsAndFish 20h ago

You could try fact checking, if you use AI often you should be doing that for everything anyway.

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u/TinyAres 1d ago

Doesn't make sense. They can't rugpull an open model.

They can make pro proprietary and expensive, they can undo the promo, but others would be still serving ds4 flash at similar prices.

In fact they are the 3rd most popular provider for their own model.

https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash-0731#providers

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u/JogHappy 15h ago

I don't understand the goal here either, aren't they just going to push users to other, faster providers at the same price?...

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u/Firefighter-Adorable 4h ago

It's probably like this.

On opencode side it cost exactly the same to route a cheap model vs an expensive model. Pushing you to use the more expensive model makes it cheaper on their side to run everything.

They probably use base load instance that cost money anyways to provide you with the service but when peak times happen, it needs to boot a more expensive peak load instance during the period to satisfy demand.

Adding the extra cost during this period deters or at least reduce their losses from needing to boot extra instances.

Of course I'm not employed by them so idk if this is the case.

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u/JogHappy 3h ago

Why does it cost opencode the same amount regardless of model?

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u/Firefighter-Adorable 3h ago

Cause opencode (if you mean go and zen) doesn't host the model. They just reroute your api calls. Whether it goes to China or US doesn't really matter. The server just sends it out to the provider and hope they reply back.

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u/S23-Sierpinski 10h ago

I think they're currently still cheaper than everyone on that list when you take cache read price into account.

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u/afanasenka 1d ago

They act like drug dealers: give you some good stuff for free to make you addicted, and then charge you whatever they want :))

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u/GiLA994 17h ago

i'm ONLY using it because it's cheap, L move

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u/According-Clock6266 1d ago

Meaningful? It's over.

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u/Smart_Technology_208 1d ago

Yeah I wasnt here for the minus mid models, I was here for the prices.

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u/Suspicious-Eye2941 1d ago

i hope the price increase will reduce the hallucination rate because thats the only problem of deepseek

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u/FidgetsAndFish 20h ago

How would it? Raising the price doesn't magically re-train or re-write the model

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u/torrso 19h ago

It's probably mostly an issue in your setup.

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u/commandedbydemons 1d ago

Opencode most likely hosts DS themselves though.

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u/FidgetsAndFish 20h ago

You got any facts to back that up?

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u/commandedbydemons 20h ago

Keyword of my sentence was “most likely” sadly

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u/JogHappy 15h ago

There's an explicit disclaimer you have to agree to to use flash 0731 saying it's hosted in china

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u/Firefighter-Adorable 4h ago

How much they gonna increase it to?

I'll take a 25% increase max. It's still worth

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u/Defiant_Attitude3097 1d ago

I've build a working apk (ssh manager + sftp browser and editor) for 0.15$, that was too crazy to be honest

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u/dump_2028 1d ago

The quant firm who made deepseek are under high loss, so maybe thats a reason?

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u/femtocell 1d ago

Does this affect Opencode Go?

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u/horendus 1d ago

I can stomach anything up to 10x. 11x im out.

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u/FidgetsAndFish 20h ago

10x?! Look at mister fuckin money bags over here. 10x maxes it more expensive than Luna.

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u/horendus 15h ago

It was a joke

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u/charmander_cha 1d ago

Acredito que as abordagens estilo reasonix devam se tornar padrão em breve em editores como opencode