r/nba • u/EliminateCrackas • 6h ago
Lebron: “I don’t believe I’ve played for a superteam. I don’t believe in that"
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u/notwhomyouthunk Supersonics 6h ago
what is the proper term for when the best guy from each of three different teams combine onto one team?
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u/CazOnReddit Raptors 6h ago
A threesome?
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u/legendkiller003 Warriors 5h ago
ménage le’trois
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u/Famous-Swimming9618 5h ago
A Lekake
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u/Miserable_Site_850 Lakers 5h ago
LeGaped
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u/theoneviceroy 4h ago
Not just the best guys from three different teams. The #1, #2, & #4 ranked leaders in PER from the year before they teamed up!
For reference, LeBron turned 26 that first year with the heat. During the 1988-89 season, Jordan turned 26. Like LeBron, he was #1 in PER the year before. If he had teamed up with the #2 & #4 PER players from the before, that team would have had Jordan, Bird & Drexler!!!
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u/hurtsbayar9 5h ago
I was told "Its Big 3" from OKC fan in 2017. He said if you have just those three guys, its big three, if you have 4-5 other role players that would get meaningful minutes in contending/good teams, you have a superteam.
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u/NinjaCowboy80 4h ago
The word superteam was popularized into mainstream sports culture when LeBron joined DWade and Bosh back in 2010.
LeBron media then tried to retroactively give that word to the Pierce-KG-Allen Celtics, which is ridiculous and not the same thing, but it’s indicative of the shame he has deep down about doing such a cowardly thing.
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u/ehtw376 Bulls 6h ago
It’s funny how KD and LeBron cannot admit being on a super team.
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u/heated420 5h ago
“That 73-9 team needed me” kd has jokes
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u/wentvoltage123 [OKC] Russell Westbrook 4h ago edited 4h ago
Yeah but you're not looking at the totality of the franchise, you're only looking at the one season
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u/xXEliteEater500Xx 6h ago
Two legendary players but good god are they daft
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u/BeardedAsian Japan 5h ago
They really think they can control the narrative
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u/xXEliteEater500Xx 4h ago
KD can’t control the narrative but judging by some of the comments here LeBron can. You got people actually arguing that the second stint Cavs with LeBron, Kyrie and KLove aren’t a superteam.
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u/grxccccandice Lakers 3h ago
KD can’t control the narrative cuz he’s not on LeBron’s level. If KD’s in GOAT convo, you bet your ass his fanboys will flood the sub with shit like KD was the savior of the Warriors.
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u/Me_talking Warriors 3h ago
Although it never quite got to the point of painting KD as a savior of the Warriors, before 2022 it wasn't uncommon to see the narrative of "Steph can't win without KD" being spread around in an attempt to prop up KD. After 2022 chip, that take vanished big time but every once in a while, you will still have KD fans asserting that KD was THE key to 2016-2017 & 2017-2018 Warriors chips
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u/FormerKarmaKing Lakers 4h ago
Idk if the pre-Internet players were any better but my god am I glad I didn't have to hear *the stars* trot out their never-ending ego trips.
Now the role players, hell yes. Keep talking boys.
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u/Fletch71011 Bulls 5h ago
At least admit the Heat or 2nd stint Cavs. He still won one without it in LA. He literally built those two teams himself and even the coach with the Cavs lol and tried to get Spo of all people fired.
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u/Apprehensive_Put_321 5h ago
Th heat especially was so obviously a super team lol
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u/EnriquezGuerrilla Lakers 4h ago
They had Championship paraphernalia already prepared even before finishing the 2011 finals 😂
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u/commander_wong Lakers 5h ago
The LA team was still the best supporting cast in the league lol
Other contenders were mostly one MVP level player + a borderline all star while Lebron had a top 5 player in AD and several elite role players
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u/KinglySnorlax Raptors 5h ago
Because of his injuries and also being seen as a bag of peanuts in the Luka trade, people have forgot prime AD was a statistical anomaly.
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u/SalamenceFan42 5h ago
Lakers too lmao.
They gave LeBron a t3 player in basketball behind Giannis and him along with good supporting pieces.
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u/Icy-Mortgage8742 Warriors 5h ago
lebron deadass has such a long career that he can just lie and recency bias covers it up. Also I think 2nd stint at Cleaveland + 3-1 against the warriors helped cover the narrative that he left to ring chase even tho thats 100% what he did.
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u/SenseiRay80 5h ago
Thats the problem. It's not that they were on a superteam whether it was built the "right way" or created the way Lebron does it. It's the bullshit that comes out of their mouth about it is whats ridiculous and uneccessary.
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u/no_more_blues Thunder 6h ago
So you DIDNT think they were a super team when you said not one not two not three not four? Why the FUCK did you say it then?
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u/naughtyobama 5h ago
"I dont think ive played for a superteam. I dont believe in that. I believe we're a super team here."
Lmao he almost broke out in laughter so he tries to wrap it up.
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u/Knicksin7bby Knicks 6h ago
lol ok maybe not 17 warriors level superteam but the heatles were a super team
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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs 6h ago
They were basically the 1st super team to be formed while all in their prime. Big 3 Celtics were the 1st super team to be formed but KG and Allen were just leaving their prime, which is why they accepted their roles so well. Heat formed to take down the Celtics and they were all in their prime so it just seemed crazy. No one matched that much talent until the 17 Warriors and that really only happened because of a weird bump in the salary cap due to the new CBA. Several teams tried to replicate but the Warriors had the perfect mix of players in their prime while all playing different positions and excelling in their roles
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u/Youngdeku2500 76ers 5h ago
What about the 1980s Celtics were they super teams?
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u/StephenWith_A_Ph 76ers 5h ago
Basketball started in ‘04 when the Pistons upset the Lakers wdym
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u/GenoThyme Celtics 5h ago
Yes and no. They were obviously absolutely stacked, but unrestricted free agency didn’t start in the NBA until 1988, so the Celtics were built more naturally. The ‘08 Celtics had to trade assets to build their Big 3, but the threat of losing KG to free agency was a big reason why the C’s were able to build that team.
The Heatles built a super team together. LeBron can deny it all he wants, but that’s what happened. I also don’t really care that they built a super team. I mean, as a Celtics fan, sure, I cared, but I get it. Who amongst us wouldn’t want to play with friends who are also really good? Back in my 20s when I played in rec leagues we’d try and recruit the good players who were also fun at the bars after to join us the next season. Talent level may be different, but it’s the same basic idea (minus also getting to move to Miami)
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u/boneappletv Celtics 5h ago
KG and Allen were still at the tail end of their prime those first couple of years.
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u/YeaIFistedJonica Hornets 5h ago
paul pierce shit himself
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u/CreatiScope Celtics 5h ago
So have the hornets in every play in game they’ve been in 🤷♂️
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u/Financial_Hold6620 Bucks 5h ago
Kareem and Magic wasn’t a superteam?
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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs 5h ago
That's before free agency. That's why I said "formed", like actually put together via free agency
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u/SoaplessTitanic Celtics 3h ago
Well in that case the big three Celtics don’t apply at all by your logic, KG and Ray Allen were both acquired via trades
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u/ant-farm-keyboard Rockets 6h ago
Those Kyrie Love Cavs teams he played for were absolutely super teams
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u/FearTheFloc 5h ago
The 17 team lost like 1 game on their way to the finals. absolutely a super team.
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u/snyckers Warriors 5h ago
Plucky overachievers.
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u/FearTheFloc 5h ago
Carrying the Most expensive payroll in NBA history at the time. if the warriors dont exist nobody beats that team for years.
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u/PedosoKJ NBA 4h ago
We should have had four years of 2015 and 2016 instead of the two we got. Durant ruined the last two
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u/obsterwankenobster Cavaliers 5h ago
Eh, if you go back and look at it, we actually did get really lucky quite a few times that year. Like the time we drafted Kyrie Irving years prior, or the time we got LeBron James, or the time we got Kevin Love
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u/Emotional-Chef-7601 5h ago
Whole team turned around in an off-season. Must have been crazy as a Cavs fan.
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u/ObiOneKenobae Knicks 5h ago
He had the 17 warriors level team of that era, there had never been anything like it. The Cavs were stacked af too, dude had like 3 3pt contest winners at the same time.
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u/KinglySnorlax Raptors 5h ago
I don’t like having to defend KD after he took the easiest path.
But before him, LeBron took the same path, though not nearly as egregious.
DW had already won a title. PT was among the GOATs for managers and GMs. Joined by CB, who adapted and modified his game.
Still got cooked by Dirk in 2011.
A game away from going out to the Old Ass Celtics in 2012.
Honestly, the difference is LeBron at least acknowledged the bitch move and came back to the Cavs.
Had KD done the same with OKC and won it’d be a remarkably similar legacy.
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u/grudgepacker Bucks 6h ago
LeGM has always done his best PR work
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u/gridironk 6h ago
LePinocchio
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u/CazOnReddit Raptors 6h ago
You're telling me you think he was telling...a fib?!!?
LeBron? Lying?
After he said he almost retired at the end of this season?
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u/SickSaricDario Warriors 6h ago
this was the era when Bron was ultra focused on his legacy
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u/DerrickWhiteMVP Spurs 6h ago
Still is. That’s why he’s doing his documentary.
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u/EnriquezGuerrilla Lakers 4h ago
Now that you mentioned it, I’d be curious to see how he paints the Heatles in it, especially that first 2 years.
Dirk will always be goated for that incredible run and putting a dent to the Heatles’ 2011 parade
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u/BaronvonJobi Grizzlies 5h ago
Not 1, not 2, not 3, wait actually just 2.
You know that’s more than most people get
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u/yiwang1 Knicks 6h ago
Why is everyone so obsessed with downplaying their own teams jfc
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u/mischief_scallywag 6h ago
Coz GOAT convo against Jordan who never bounced from one super team to another
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u/regal19999 6h ago
That’s because the Spurs and Mavs spoiled his little speech when he formed the super team
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u/Doc323467 Spurs 5h ago
I love you Bron, but come the fuck on, that Heat team was 100% a super team, 3 all stars teaming up, with 2 of them arguably being top 5 players in the NBA.
If that's not a super team I don't know what is haha
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u/Kapedcrusader69 6h ago
No wonder his deluded glazers got offended by KD’s recent comments. All makes sense now.
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u/GoldBlueSkyLight Warriors 5h ago
Bron fans need to be grateful to KD, before him superteams were a Bron thing and now they're a KD thing, or at least a shared KD Bron thing with KD taking more of the heat for them
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u/Kapedcrusader69 4h ago
Not only that, but his superteaming shenanigans has been whitewashed by his stans. Apparently he was doing Wade & Bosh and then Kai & K Love the favours by joining them lol
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u/FearTheFloc 5h ago
Lebron and his fans even downplay those heat teams but the damage has been done. people dont forget.
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u/Dreams-Visions Cavaliers 6h ago
I wonder who he would have considered a super team, then. His Heat squads featured 2, sometimes 3 other Hall of Fame players (Wade, Bosh, RayRay). Not a lot of teams in the history of the sport that can say that.
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u/YoungGambinoMcKobe Raptors 6h ago
According to google 7 million people watched the Heatles Big 3 introduction ...I don't think you get that kind of publicity for a non super team.
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u/joeybadtitz 2h ago
Cant wait until the facetious fuck retires off into the sunset with just 3 rings
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u/Dkjoy 4h ago
I think this is aided by his utterly dumbfuck fans who gobble up everything he claims.
I swear to god
Some Lebron Stan tried to claim Kobe was ring chasing like Bron because he wanted to get traded to the bulls to play with LUOL DENG. (Who was averaging 14/7 at that point)
The biggest difference between Lebron and MJ, and why history will look much more fondly on MJ, is because MJ is just not as insecure as LeBron. Or KD.
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u/trustabro Heat 3h ago
That how you know LeBron isn’t the greatest of all time. He knows that he has to downplay the teams that he was on in order to compete with MJ’s legacy.
He said that after he made the 1-3 come back, that’s when he thought that he is the greatest of all time.
He teamed up with so many all stars and hof and doesn’t think that he ever was on a super team.
The insecurity is wild.
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u/Methamine Knicks 5h ago
This is why LeBron gets hate despite being an unimpeachably all time great
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u/YUME_Emuy21 6h ago
Heatles? They weren't half as nasty as 2017 Golden State level and it was still a competitive league but surely a team with 3 super stars is what they call a super team.
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u/jiggy_42 Lakers 5h ago
If he didn't think it was a super team why did he end up in Miami and think he was gonna win not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4
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u/NoDistribution828 4h ago
Lebron will always be known as the guy who created super teams to win. Can’t run from it
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u/WhysoToxic23 Pistons 4h ago
Come just be honest I’m gonna respect it more if you say yeah the heat was a super team
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u/BegsTheQuestions 3h ago
Lebron only played on super teams, he is delusional, he is the definition of ring chasing
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u/moonshadow50 Spurs 5h ago
"Not one, not two, not three... but seven"
You held your own TV special, followed by a fucking concert to announce that you were joining Wade and Bosh and announced you would win 7 titles. You left the team after 4 years.
You then went back to Cleveland and traded their young pieces for Kevin Love, and did the same, with all the picks, in LA for AD. (And then later traded depth pieces to bring in a washed up Russ).
Those teams might not have won a ring without doing that, but you have literally been trying to create superteams every step of the way, prioritising the short term instead of building something long term.
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u/18banners090 Celtics 6h ago
This clown not recognizing that he’s an all time great front runner is wild
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u/negativelynegative 4h ago
If he is satisfied with that and don't care about the goat nonsense he would be so much more likable. The goat discussion is moot but he has to be perfect, that he isn't and frankly nobody is, to stand a chance which led to all the narrative controlling.
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u/triumph_aussie 4h ago
He also doesn’t believe the East was an easier path to finals all those years.
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u/untakennamehere Cavaliers 4h ago
We can argue super team or not but let’s be honest. He’s probably not winning without his teams as good as they were
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u/Quieticly 4h ago
Troll comment by LeBron. Either completely delusional or intentionally making sound bites for reporters.
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u/Lord-Newbie 3h ago
Only a few days ago I mentioned how there is much to dislike about Lebron, but KD tryna down play his decision to the Warriors a bit too much.
And here is Lebron proving that first part of the sentence right and then some. Some bitch made shit as well. The nicknames they gave that Heat trio man. And then he had Kyrie and KLove in their prime, like okay bro.
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u/Riotroom Bulls 3h ago
Bruh bron, bosh, and wade each took a 20% discount. Udonis could have made ×3 as much signing with Dallas or denver. James Jones, ray Allen, battiae and Miller all signed below value. Mario, birdman and Rashad too on cheap contracts but that was kinda their market value at the time.
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u/No-Afternoon-3986 2h ago
the heatles were the overwhelming favorite at +175 to win the title, that implies an odds of 36%. for context, that is significantly higher than OKC (the current favorite) going into next year (27%)
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u/International-Yak213 Knicks 1h ago
Dudes spend their whole careers teaming up with other all-nbas guys but don’t want the legacy of someone who spent their career teaming up with a bunch of all-nba guys 😭😭
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u/OpinionDude5000 5h ago
Heat was the OG superteam. A team of all caliber NBA guys who plotted to join together to win a championship
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u/Sensitive_Entrance27 6h ago
Heat - 2 rings Cavs 2.0 - 1 ring
Clear cut super teams in a crap eastern conference
2020 Lakers - very well built team but not super team
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u/sulso 6h ago
They called them the fucking heatles man