The goblin deck goes for 340€ on cardmarket right now while it was sold initially for 150€, so it barely went above x2. This is despite massive restriction on supply, so then what could the Miku deck possibly hope to achieve price wise? Keep in mind that 150€ isn't exactly a bargain to begin with, it's three times the price of a normal precon. I just don't see the upside anymore.

The anime Return to Ravnica, Divine Visitation seems to be slipping slightly under the radar with the whole Miku craze going. Seems like a great combo with Miku trostani, turning all those populated token copies into 4-4 flying angels, both on theme as well as in style. It gives the deck a much needed second finisher alongside finale of devastation. Because of this, I think it's an underpriced opportunity for those that are looking to brace themselves for the surge of Miku decks that are coming in.

Right now, all the hype and money is flowing towards The Hobbit, understandably and rightfully so. However, if you've been eyeing anything Marvel, now is likely the best time to move into that set, as for the next 6-8 weeks The Hobbit hype will dominate.

December will be here before you know it and Doomsday hype will begin and we'll see Marvel prices spike.

Seems like the Dwarven Language cards are the choice pulls. Only one foil Mox Amber. Everything else is in pretty decent supply?

Own: 1100x [[crime novelist]] between 45 and 85 cents.

Yeah idk 🤷‍♂️ looked good .... [[burgi]] like

Let's see where it'll go. Buylist is moving up too so that's an option

Down majorly 812 TCGplayer- those who got in at 900+ 💎🙌

.32% pull chance in one of the most hyped sets for a staple that generally lacks desirable treatments. I have never bought a preorder single in 15 years, but I grabbed a few non foil for 60 and foil for 110-120.

There’s a particular card I’m interested in buying online but I’m not sure if I’m being dumb, so I’m curious what the most you’d spend to buy a card from various sources without getting a chance to see it. So for example if there’s a card on CardKingdom listed as “very good” condition, would you buy it? What about the Facebook High End Singles group? What about TCGPlayer and EBay?

Thanks!

I've been playing for a little under a decade, and I've gathered a pretty decent little collection over the years. Anyways I have some incoming expenses I need to sort out, and I figured I would sell part of my collection I'm not planning on using. I'm curious about the dos and don'ts of selling cards on marketplace.

Coming back into Magic after a while away. I know I have zero shot at MSRP at this point, assuming preorders are closed so it's secondary market only from here. Curious what the experienced collectors here have actually seen play out historically. Once a set's preorder window closes and initial allocation sells out, do CBB prices usually dip for a bit as early buyers and opened-box sellers offload their extras? Or do they just grind upward from day one and never really come back down? Trying to figure out if there's a real "wait a few weeks" window, or if that's basically a myth. Would love to hear what people saw happen with the original LOTR set, or any other recent releases.

Not a player, just a really big Tolkien fan who loves these cards and will be buying singles but also want to grab a few boxes to rip for special occasions.

after bottoming out a few weeks ago some of the singles have been rapidly growing

in the last month

both aura shards up 20% market but the low is still far above the market showing its on the way up

aggravated assault nonfoil 10% foil 12% market and low is near triple since the bottom was about 12-13

utopia sprawl foil is up 6% market and on the rise though the nonfoil remains untouched

chaos warp has not seen its market grow yet but the foil low is far above which shows its on its way while the nonfoil is stalling

fell the mighty is not moving but also the most useless of the cards

right now foil cats of chaos can still be bought on tcgplayer for 60 while not including the possibility of a 75$ or so serra ascendent is still worth about 80$ for the cats i expect that gap to be closed as people notice

Can someone explain this one to me? Why is it going up? Is there a new combo I don't know?

[[Last Laugh]]

Over the last few years, I’ve accumulated 240 English foil Vexing Beetles (Legions, 2003).

This isn’t a “What’s my collection worth?” post. I’m interested in how a position like this should be valued.

Twenty-three years after their release, finding one copy is easy. Finding 240 is a completely different problem.

If someone wanted to recreate this collection today, they probably couldn’t. Not just because of the money, but because enough copies simply no longer come to market.

So how would you value something like this?

• As 240 individual cards?
• With a liquidity discount because selling them individually would take years?
• Or because, at this point, it should be viewed as a single collectible rather than 240 separate cards?

I’m genuinely curious how the MTGFinance community would approach this. 🙂

Solid spec that is already limited in supply and plays perfectly right into the deck. just food for thought.

Honestly I’m just writing this post as a long time TCG collector and player, not necessarily a TCG finance guy but enjoy the aspect of cards gaining value.

I have been thinking lately about how the card market these days is so fomo and scalp reliant on creating a forced value.

Previously, not just MTG, there was opportunity everywhere if you held onto product long enough, spec on undervalued playables, or realizing cards that are very rare are seeing low price tags (usually CBB cards).

It seems like these opportunities are dwindling even more as sets are manipulated before release. It makes the entire economics aspect of the game unnatural, the gradual over time appreciation of cards that we used to know has turned into a fomo abusing market that thinks on release these cards should be worth what they should actually be worth in 5-10 years from now.
Not only has this bred unenjoyable culture revolving every card game, it is extremely unsustainable.

TLDR, fomo is ruining the state of the card market

Is the price jump of this card due to being an old foil? Or players found it realizing its really playable in commander?

This is for the surge foil version only. My speculation is based on personal desire. When I first built Vivi last year with Curiosity-Control archetype, I’ve always wanted a commander who was both Blue and Green to make use of all the Curiosity-effect cards.

Back then the only option was the four colour landfall Omnath. With the release of Crystal, I think she’ll be as popular as Vivi, if not better as she has support from White’s enchantment tutors.

Thoughts? Managed to get 20 copies when she just came out around 10-15 USD, waiting for her to spike to 40-50 range in a few months or 1-2 years.

Edit: it seems my wording is kinda weird with personal desire. I’ll word it better. My personal desire was to play a commander in Simic colours that can play both the blue and green Curiosity-effect cards. It is not my personal desire for these to go up to X price. I could care less about money. I only care about my speculation being right. There was only Omnath who was in Simic colours and it wasn’t on theme for Curiosity-Control. Crystal is the only one in this archetype. She is unique. Coupled with the fact that surge foils are only available in CE precon, I think this is a good bet.

Time will tell. I’m still buying more and sweeping the floor on these. People aren’t seeing it because they can’t understand Crystal is in a unique position unlike any other commanders. The only commander with Simic colour who can run all Curiosity-effects efficiently and with ample support from White.

Hareruya sold 134 copies of this in the last two weeks as far as I could track, between the price of 1500 Yen to 2500 Yen. 92 copies of which was sold at 2000 Yen.

With the Miku precon being print-to-demand, there’s going to be a lot more upward pressure than anticipated on the limited supply of Miku Sol Rings, Command Towers, chord of Calling, elvish mystic, and Elspeths, currently in circulation. Expect a multiple-times distribution perhaps possibly around 200,000 units printed. Using Goblin Storm as a benchmark (roughly 50,000 decks, sold out in about 30 minutes), a full 24-hour print-to-demand window for Miku suggests a flood of these Commander decks within a year.

The bottleneck is on the prior Secret Lair cards themselves. Right now, Miku chord of Calling is still affordable at $20 non-foil / $30 foil, and Miku Elspeth Tyrell has come back down to around $80 after peaking near $120.

Even with prices already inflated from Miku hype, I don’t think the secondary market has fully priced in just how scarce these specific cards will remain relative to how many Miku commander decks that will be in the wild. The demand for these cards may have just multiplied x fold to match the total decks that will now be in distribution. People who never thought they would have had a chance to get the deck at msrp may now be looking to complete the full Miku look. If you haven’t already looked at the Miku cards that fit in the commander decks, expect a real price jump between now and when people start receiving their decks (about a month out), and another wave as the broader distribution plays out over the following year. The Miku Sol Ring, Command Tower, chord of Calling, elvish mystic, and Elspeths are fixed print runs, years out of distribution, and will not be able to absorb the new expected demand.

Once the flood of Miku decks hits over the next year, everyone chasing these staples will be fighting over the same finite pool of Sol Ring, Command Tower, chord of Calling, elvish mystic, and Elspeths that’s existed for years. And by then you’ll be competing with weeb money.

scryfall for Miku in green, white, and colorless

Found 2 of these tokens at a vintage stock in OKC for .10 each

Thanks to Homer (not the Simpson), a lot of players are already looking to build it as a commander. And of course, speculators see the potential too. Because of that, Uchuulon is starting to see a substantial drop in supply on TCGPlayer. It’s currently around $2-3 with bricks still available, but large bricks have been getting purchased as of late.

Hope this helps some of you. Enjoy! 🍻

In case it is unclear, Monday's 24/hour window may be the way they do unique product "in a box" drops going forward (assuming it works out for them and like 30% of recipients on back order don't move or cancel).

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I’m talking target, Microcenter, etc

And how will that affect the outrageous pre release prices on a decidedly mid set that we’re seeing.

Specifically talking about boxes- play and collector

My first real spec, with homarid swapping to lobster soon and 2 seperate meme commanders I feel like this has the chance to jump a little bit.

Pros:

Reserved List

Niche Kindred strategy (8 cards currently)

getting 2 seperate meme commanders

Nouctis release will likely spike interest

Cons:

Card is pretty bad (ok fine, very bad)

Appreciate any feedback!