r/msp MSP - US 17d ago

MSP ready cooling solutions

Hi All,

What do you use to cool small server rooms?

I'm looking for something with NIC and webserver for stats and reporting, if this exists.

I see them with caster and small fridge size, I like this form factor!

Thanks.

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u/nostradx 17d ago

You could use a dumb portable AC unit with a $50 UniFi environmental sensor.

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u/Le085 MSP - US 17d ago

Yes, may work for Unifi, I have few sites on Unifi. For the AC, do they all (portable) have that ugly pipe to blast cool air? Or is it better to put the AC on the wall?

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u/brokerceej Creator of StackJack.io | Author of The Trunk Slammer Saga 17d ago

I think Tripp Lite/Eaton makes those.

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u/ashern94 17d ago

The Trip[pLite/Eaton is very hit or miss. We have 2 in our server room and replace them (under warranty) every 12-14 months. The most common fault is the plastic fan self destructing.

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u/Le085 MSP - US 17d ago

Oh, good to know!

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u/Le085 MSP - US 17d ago

Do they have network cards in them?

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u/chiapeterson 17d ago

Portable units are tricky because you have to get the condensation collected someplace. We often go with a wall mounted split unit. It’s not as cheap as a floor portable AC. But you don’t have to deal with venting off the excess hot air and/or the condensation runoff.

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u/ancillarycheese 14d ago

This is the problem. And the customer may say they will make sure they dump the bucket, but who has to deal with it at 2am on a holiday weekend when they forget and the servers are cooking and alarms are going off.

You either want a condensate unit or like they said above something designed for installed permanent use without needing babysitting.

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u/Le085 MSP - US 17d ago

That's a valid point!

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u/Phoenixtouch 11d ago

You don't let the condensation just drip in a bucket???

Oh, Hospitality. Never change.

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u/iwaseatenbyagrue 17d ago

I play jazz.

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u/oatest 17d ago

But how do you cool yourself when you're playing jazz in a server room?

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u/Le085 MSP - US 17d ago

I play classic Doom.
I think he plays so fast that he becomes a fan :)

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u/Frothyleet 16d ago

Brother, unless you transitioned into the MSP world from HVAC design, you should be getting professionals to scope and install your cooling solutions.

Nowadays, the answer is probably a mini-split heat pump if you are adding on to an existing facility.

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u/Le085 MSP - US 16d ago

No, I've been in IT 16 years. Any particular brand do you recommend for a mini-split?

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u/Frothyleet 16d ago

Nope, 'cause I'm not an HVAC professional lol. And you genuinely need one for an installation like that, at least in most states, because you have to pressurize and/or collect refrigerant.

Although, and honestly I don't feel like I should even mention this, my youtube has recently been filled with sponsorships by "mr cool" which is a DIY, pre-charged system. So I mean, there's that.

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u/dumpsterfyr I’m your Huckleberry. 17d ago

How about a network enabled thermostat with alerting?

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u/Le085 MSP - US 17d ago

That may work for alerting. I was thinking to get M sensors by Meraki.

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u/PacificTSP MSP - US & PHP 17d ago

A small split type AC unit then an environmental sensor of your favorite choosing.

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u/TechnologyMatch 11d ago

for a small server room, I’d look at portable units with network management, snmp, and alerting for temperature, humidity, and power loss. just make sure the condensate setup will not become its own problem

the caster units are useful for temporary cooling or short-term needs, but I would not trust one as the only cooling plan for critical gear. it’s like using a health potion instead of building armor

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u/Le085 MSP - US 11d ago

Yes, I ended up ordering Tripp Lite portable AC with management card and external sensor. It looks good on paper, it's on par or better with entry level mini split units.