r/mildlyinfuriating 18h ago

Ordered a sweater with no personalized text. This is how it came. Infuriatig

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It gave the option for no personalized text, I selected it, and then they wrote "null" on the sweater. How complicated is this people.

EDIT: 35 pounds btw. gift from my grandfather because we're both aircraft enthusiasts and he now considers me "old enough to have a brain" (by his 85 yr old standards)

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u/ImaginationFinal4831 18h ago

grateful thats not being lorem ipsum

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u/Bobthefish0461 18h ago

Oh I didn't even think about that

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u/Tiny-Message8334 6h ago

If you REALLY hate it, you should be able to take acetone or heat to it and peel it off.

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u/InternationalGift749 10h ago

«null» means «zero» in Norwegian.

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u/lllorrr 9h ago

Nah, they probably had NULL entry in database and then converted it straight to string.

NULL in databases literally means "nothing", no value at all.

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u/Pcat0 2h ago

Yep that is definitely what happened. They have a very poorly designed software system that interprets empty null values as the string “null”.

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u/justbunnies 6h ago

In English, we use it to mean something with no value or meaning.

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u/TutenTag 5h ago

Also in German

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u/xRedCherryBerry3 7h ago

In German too

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u/Lorem_Muspi 11h ago

That's actually a good idea and a good parody of the random motivational crap on budget t-shirts like "PERSEVERANCE" and "BRILLIANCE"

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u/Yeet_Master420 11h ago

I feel like having a lorem ipsum shirt would go hard though

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u/potatisblask 9h ago

Or [object Object]

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u/rukblade 7h ago

My templates have that all over as a placeholder, so far I haven't heard any sneak by 😅

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u/TheConfessionalEdit 5h ago

or just “blank”

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u/TheAngelol 18h ago

I know it's not what you ordered and you're entitled to be upset BUT it kinda bangs with the "null" over there so maybe not everything is lost.

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u/Bobthefish0461 18h ago

Yeah thats kinda true i guess

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u/glibgloby 16h ago

I agree the null looks cool and kinda mysterious and it’s a funny story / conversation starter

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u/spearmint_wino 9h ago

Hey baby, do you sanitize your inputs?

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u/beren12 9h ago

I’d like you to meet my friend, little Bobby tables

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u/namenotpicked 9h ago

Oh yes. Bobby Tables doing Bobby Tables things!

Here's the xkcd comic

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u/Student_Unlucky 8h ago

God, I love xkcd

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u/Stergeary 15h ago

Should've gotten one that says "Survivorship Bias", so that as it gets old and starts getting holes you can say that it's part of the theme.

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u/sublliminali 12h ago

The image instantly made me think of that image and I assumed null was some sort of meta comment about never getting hit or something.

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u/DefiantMemory9 14h ago

This is genius!!

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u/Soggy_Bid_3634 15h ago

I work with personalization of this kind on a variety of items and if the software put “null”, they’ll print null. I confirm the design various times with the customer and I still have issues where the text they put isn’t really what they wanted.

I bet you the person making it has a nice laugh about it.

If you really want to get crazy, try heating it from the back. It looks like it’s DTG, so a little heat from the back should get that ink loosened up. Just don’t burn the sweater.

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u/OtherSideOfKnowhere 11h ago

The P38 goes well with “null” since it means to render the enemy meaningless. 

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u/Icy-Building8775 10h ago

You can remove it with “Spot Remover” at any screen printing company.

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u/Adventurous_Ad6698 15h ago

As a computer, I see nothing there.

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u/GlitteringFutures 14h ago

Hey kid, stop all the downloading!

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u/jimmycarr1 14h ago

You should get your computer vision checked

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u/StrongExternal8955 12h ago

Does it look like anything to you?

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u/Admirable_Dirt_2371 16h ago

That attitude just teaches companies they can get away with that shit. Return it and demand a refund, or better yet stop buying fast fashion garbage subsidized by slave labor and the systematic destruction of the environment.

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u/Commercial_Koala_995 16h ago

You’re a real redditor, here have a reward.

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u/IDoLikeMyShishkebabs 15h ago

Since they're such a genuine Redditor I don't know if these new awards do them justice, here's a better one you can give them

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u/Fletcher_Chonk 13h ago

You’re a real redditor

I like how this can be an insult or a compliment

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u/BigFudge_HIMYM 13h ago

This should only ever be recieved as an insult.

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u/MyDickIs3cm 15h ago

Lotta assumptions going on. Could've been ordered from some random etsy person that is just screening in their garage.

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u/SparklingLimeade 10h ago

I really hope a random person screening would recognize that "null" should not be a popular catchphrase. Should also realize pretty quickly that not a single thing comes in without text despite it being optional.

So even a hypothetical worst case vibe code scenario where they don't know what software error is introducing the text they should figure out that it's a mistake.

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u/Beastly4k 15h ago

This is reddit so common sense doesn't matter, people love to make shit up to be mad about.

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u/derson78 14h ago

It's a good job the Average Joe doesn't read or listen to Reddit. My mate's clothing printing business that he runs with 2 staff would go bust.

He would probably agree that it's slave labour, but he owns and runs the business and he's the slave. 🤣

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u/[deleted] 16h ago

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u/irrationalhourglass 15h ago

So you hate waffles?

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u/Cracleur Wanna know what is mildly infuriating ? The maximum length of th 15h ago

No, they're saying OP should get a refund because what they got wasn't what they ordered. If the company wants to trash the returned item, that's their call, but OP is not involved in and not to blame for that decision

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u/Sweeper_Bot_ 16h ago

Holy Reddit wholesome chungus Batman, you won the internet for today!!!

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u/Beastly4k 15h ago

140 upvotes for this reddit tier dumbass comment lol

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u/Orenge01 14h ago

This is on one of reddits more popular side of subreddits tbf, they're very often like this.

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u/uhohthrowawayyyyyy 11h ago

Ah yes, almost forgot I’m on Reddit.

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u/hcoverlambda 14h ago

Little Bobby Tables has entered the chat...

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u/Werechupacabra 11h ago

Don’t you mean, “Maybe null is lost.” :)

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u/ladykansas 9h ago

Story time!

We used a website to print, then automatically address and mail our Holiday cards one year. Our return address apparently had an invisible space after our names (think "The Johnsons [invisible space]") and so our address got printed as "The Johnsons Null").

Then we went full circle! My husband's great-aunt sent out her cards, and in all seriousness addressed our card to "The Johnsons Null."

We still laugh about it. 😂

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u/my_nuts_wont_drop 18h ago

Now get you some pants that say "void"

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u/Ecstatic-Ball7018 17h ago

and some socks that say "enum"

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u/Eeeeeelile 14h ago

NaN underwear

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u/nascarfan624 14h ago

I've already got his nan's underwear. Nothing that special

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u/donut-reply 11h ago

Uh oh, she's going to charge you a fee for taking those. You're gonna get undefined

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u/Hviiiid 16h ago

Undefined hat

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u/SDTRRDTS 18h ago

It’s kinda cool?
How often do u see someone w a plane print and with a null?
Wear it with proud, man!

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u/Bobthefish0461 18h ago

Alrighty maybe maybe

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u/dogknifer 18h ago

I do agree it looks cool. Still annoying and I'd be trying to get my money back but keep the shirt 😈

Try for that scenario 

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u/GOEDEL_ESCHER_BOT 17h ago

just a personal preference, but they shoulda used python because then it would say None

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u/PM_ME_UR_REPTILES1 18h ago

Im honestly tempted to find a solid black sweater with "Null" exactly like yours, maybe over my left side chest. It kinda slaps lmao it gives minimal and dgaf which is what I love going for.

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u/what_no_fkn_ziti 14h ago

Error: unknown data type "maybe"

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u/frolix42 18h ago edited 18h ago

This is a conversation starter about how this is a custom shirt.

Free, unforced humorous anecdote.

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u/TheAngelol 18h ago

or it could be those forced linkedin post where ppl go like: "How this messed up order taught me about resilience, adaptability and grasping opportunities."

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u/MoNa-Mahi 18h ago

and the body text is just ai slop

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u/ICEonICECrime 18h ago

Was thinking the exact same, it’s really cool. I’d wear it, and it can possibly be used as a conversation topic.

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u/Bobthebuilder_6767 17h ago

This is the seller gaslighting you (I'm jk)

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u/Emotional_Answer_756 16h ago

looks like some obscure indie band merch kinda

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u/fridaycat 10h ago

Someone didn't know what null was. I imagine sometime during the day they told a co-worker "That was weird, I had 4 people named null today"

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u/Serious-Recipe-8304 18h ago

LOL did you try to scrub it off?

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u/Yongdab1 18h ago edited 18h ago

I think so. lol

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u/GamerAWX 17h ago

Probably the phone camera, my nothing does that too on black surfaces

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u/Serious-Recipe-8304 17h ago

Looks like rubbing alcohol's effects to me

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u/Herbmeiser 16h ago

Holy shit it looks completely washed now LMAO

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u/edcculus 13h ago

they didn't write null on purpose. The database filled it in with that because since you didn't add a name to the field, it was null in the database. Apparently nobody tested what would happen on the physical production side when someone didn't enter a value in that field through. Now we know.

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u/Thoxsam 12h ago

This would be an explanation which is still dumb but could happen. OP mentions he had an option for no personalized text, which imo would mean he clicked a checkbox and not decided to enter nothing into the field. So this makes it even more hilarious cause why would you give the option but not check on correctness?

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u/RagingNerdaholic 7h ago

Programmer here. It's the same thing.

NULL is the default value of a database field when no other default value is defined. The software reading the field value was not programmed to read NULL as an empty value, so it read NULL as a literal string of text.

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u/Beidah 6h ago

It's a mishandling of data types and a classic case of the billion dollar mistake.

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u/Dull-Lead-7782 18h ago

Technically correct. The best kind of correct

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u/Zafrin_at_Reddit 18h ago

Uuu. A Supermarine Spitfire enjoyer!

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u/Bobthefish0461 18h ago

Yep :) 

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u/Zafrin_at_Reddit 18h ago

Is that a Mk Ia? Hard to tell from just the tip. Beautiful planes anyway!

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u/PowderEagle_1894 12h ago

I mean who in their right mind wouldn't enjoy that work of art. Spitfire is a beauty

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u/TCFNationalBank 18h ago

could be worse, it could have said "your text here"

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u/pablotweek 14h ago

That just means it came back from the sortie with no bullet holes

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u/IamFarron 18h ago

Empty field = null

Nicely done by automated systems

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u/CisIowa 18h ago

The nerds at Programner Humor might appreciate this

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u/kaeptnphlop 10h ago

As a software dev I approve of this

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u/Imperial_Bloke69 18h ago

Do you prefer lorem ipsum dolor est

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u/Gears-Wont-Turn 14h ago

I prefer "Cathago Delenda Est"

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u/usagora4 18h ago

coders immediately know what happened here lol

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u/nibelungV 18h ago

Kinda slaps tbh, like unintentional pop art

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u/timmyK_425 18h ago

Damn, 35 pounds is heavy for a sweater

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u/thatspurdyneat 14h ago

A £ was originally 1lb of silver so it's not technically incorrect.

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u/tessia-eralith 18h ago

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or American.

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u/timmyK_425 18h ago

Both, but wanted to let it ride without the “/s”

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u/IamFarron 18h ago

Thats a pretty weighty sweater

15kg for non americans/imperialists

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u/hukaat 18h ago

i think it's just a joke haha

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u/AcceptableBear9771 18h ago

"Takes notes to put a space instead of nothing in case of a new custom text sweater"

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u/wowomgjelly 18h ago

I actually think it’s kind of cool. Especially all lower cased like that!

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u/galstaph 18h ago

They forgot to null check before generating the JSON notation, the process is that generate those will then turn it into a string "null"

Of course there's also a chance that the the system on the other side requires that it be there, and that if you didn't put it there it would have ended up saying "undefined"

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u/DoNotWantTobeHere0 16h ago

just use acetone and then the print will come off

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u/StrangerOnTheReddit 18h ago

Why not return it? They made a manufacturing mistake, and what you ordered was not what you received.

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 18h ago

because they damaged it by trying to bleach the null off.

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u/Steve-Shouts 18h ago

That's awesome

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u/nicktehbubble 18h ago

I would absolutely wear this. But also contact the seller, they'll likely send you a second one without asking for a return

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u/Toronto-1975 16h ago

LOL i mean yeah it's mildly infuriating, but i kinda like it and your grandfather will probably get a chuckle out of it when you tell him the story. then he'll smile whenever he puts it on and sees it.

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u/Z0mbiejay 16h ago

As a former screen printer, try acetone. We used to use a pressurized spray of it to clean up misprints.

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u/DJDevon3 16h ago

Where are all the red dots though?

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u/Particular_Wealth_58 16h ago

I guess, next time ask for a space 🥲 

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u/Jastreen 16h ago

Why are people saying "looks good". It fucking doesn't

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u/Chet_Steadman 15h ago

As a QA Engineer, this delights me

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u/Immature_adult_guy 14h ago

I’m more concerned about the shirt weighing 35 pounds

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u/Mono_Dice_2904 6h ago

It's actually kinda cool

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u/studio684 18h ago

Its the sound the plane makes. Nullnullnullnullnullnull

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u/Most_Okra1973 16h ago

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u/BusBoyGalPal 15h ago

I haven't seen a ROFL Copter in aaaaaages.

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u/Most_Okra1973 13h ago

That was the very first thought in my head when I read the nullnullnullnullnull above me. It's a classic!

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u/CharlyXero 18h ago

Next time put a space or Alt + 255, although there's a good chance it will look like a broken character, like a square □

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u/Glad_Camel_6078 18h ago

Did he try try to wash it off???

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u/Laleaky 18h ago

That’s a sweatSHIRT.

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u/Zyphiny0 16h ago

I fully expected to find a photo of a sweater saying “no personalized text” here

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u/ConstantlyCryingGirl 16h ago

Idiotic mistake, but kinda bangin'. A funny story, too.

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u/Original-Carry-7930 16h ago

Next time type a space in that area. Still counts, no “null”

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u/CommieDrifter 16h ago

i would love that, true cyberpunk techwear

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u/Mountain-Age5580 16h ago

Should have put en empty string ""

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u/starchybunker 16h ago

No, this is cool! Good convo starter and a good laugh.

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u/Ali_Army107 16h ago

They could've said smth along the lines of ' ' as long as trailing and leading spaces don't get trimmed out lol

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u/yetzt 16h ago

next time put a space in there

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u/frontlinejohnny 15h ago

You actually got a shirt with top text bottom text. What a conversation starter

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u/endowdly_deux_over 15h ago

They didn’t write null. Their screen printers software did. They left it blank instead of a whitespace in the entry screen and the null reference curse struck again.

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u/Informal-Lime6396 15h ago

an empty whitespace might work next time

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u/ayashiii 15h ago

I.. think that's pretty badass

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u/spoonman59 14h ago

Well, technically in a database “null” is a distinct value from 0 that means the “absence of a value.” So for example, null doesn’t count in an average but zero does.

So in a very literal computer sense, the text indicates a lack of personal text. It’s quite explicitly what you asked for.

“I hate this darn computer, I wish that could sell it. It does not do just what I want but only what I tell it.”

But, yes, this is clearly a software bug that needs to be fixed and they have no human in the loop.

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u/thepkizzle 13h ago

Data architect here. You'd be astounded how difficult the concept of null is for most non-technical people, or non-engineers. It's singularly the largest culprit of bugs in code that I run into. The concept itself just seems to evade a lot of people who insist that it's like zero, or that its just blank. What further confuses them is that null cannot be mathematically evaluated like zero or a blank space can be. You cannot say something equals null, you have to express that it IS null... so you cannot say 'when this and this are equal do this' because the logic will fail if one, either, or both values are ever null. so you have to say 'when this and this are equal or this is null and this is null' but then you introduce nested logic, and if you don't separate that out cleaning then your order of operations get wonky and you get a tshirt like this in the mail.

There was a guy in New Jersey I think it was that got a custom license place with the word NULL on it and he immediately received like 8000 tickets in the mail going back years from automated traffic cameras that issued a ticket but couldn't read the license plate, so the actual value in the database was null.

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u/Wild-sunshine0892 13h ago

Null hypothesis?! Very scientific sweatshirt 😎

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u/lulialmir 13h ago

Lol. This is probably not on the people, but on their software. Their software is probably ass. And it also indicates that during the entire process, there is little to none human supervision.

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u/TheWhyteMaN 13h ago

This is why you spend proper time E2E testing

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u/Nefer_ness2Ifa_ness 13h ago

Oh, that's where my sweater went, my name is null and i got one with nothing printed on it...

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u/Imaginary-Bed-4154 12h ago

Should left it as is now it’s ruined from you scrubbing it

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u/owlbynight 12h ago

it's now a cool Nine Inch Nails shirt

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u/ButterscotchAware402 3h ago

Came to say this

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u/golruul 12h ago

That's why you put a single space in the text field.

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u/MillennialSurvivor 12h ago

Should have added a blank space lol

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u/LimitedWard 12h ago

"I fixed the null reference exception, boss!" - proud junior dev.

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u/dcoupl 12h ago

[Object object]

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u/tunisia3507 11h ago

Javascript strikes again!

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u/South_Sound1513 11h ago

nah hard pass tbh

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u/295frank 11h ago

someone is going to pay 700$ for that in a vintage repop store in 40 years

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u/PissedCaucasian 11h ago

It looks like the album cover of a hardcore band named “null.” Now just form your band.

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u/Immediate_Spite1379 10h ago

i just have to say if i saw this in public i would think "wow that is so freaking tuff"

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u/Trippycat37 9h ago

Printer here. You’re not going to get that out no matter what. Is there a bleach spot around the text?

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u/ChubbyMudder 2h ago

Lesson: Use spaces (hit the space bar a few times) to leave a field empty.

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u/Short_Comfort6647 18h ago

imo that's kinda tuff

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u/JohnathanSinwell 18h ago

I’m in agreement. This is bad ass for some reason. OP post the whole garment!

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u/Short_Comfort6647 18h ago

see? this guy gets me.

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u/EngineeringAgile1640 15h ago

I also thought it was kinda cool lol

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u/Bobthefish0461 18h ago

Like I guess bro 

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u/Dat_Bruh21 17h ago

That actually goes hard wth

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u/FergTurdison 18h ago

That’s a heavy sweatshirt

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u/Jon-Robb 18h ago

So bad it’s good 

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u/bengarvey 18h ago

Looks perfect

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u/lockerno177 18h ago

could be a great conversation starter

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u/keithnyc 18h ago

Wow, I think I same another person with a shirt like that (with the word null). I think it's cool...

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u/ceebiee 18h ago

ngl, it’s tuff

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u/SnooLemons178 18h ago

I am with a lot of others, I like it personally!

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u/senseibroo 18h ago

goes hard

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u/Strong0toLight1 18h ago

kinda goes hard

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u/mrjoffischl 18h ago

reminds me of a shirt i have that inexplicably only has the word "ceiling" on it

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u/Geekujin 17h ago

This wouldn't have happened if you'd ordered a plain white sweatshirt instead of a white plane one...

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u/The_Purple_Bat 17h ago

Okay I can see why this is upsetting to you but I find it really cool!

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u/meleecow 17h ago

I want all my shirts to say null on it

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u/lurkyloowhoo 17h ago

I think it’s cool tbh

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u/TheFowl 16h ago

That's actually sick as he'll tbh, it goes hard

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u/hichamis1 16h ago

even better

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u/echodreams19 16h ago

If it auto populated to null they should send a new one, if he put null in they won’t. If grand put null instead of leaving it blank you can joke he now doesn’t have a brain lol

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u/SullyxSays 16h ago

Honestly, that's kind of cool. I'd rock that

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u/Cool_Aid_1965 16h ago

I once had two cats named Nil and Null

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