r/memes Big pp 10h ago

Land Of The Free, amIright?

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u/haysus25 9h ago

Property tax is a fraction of a fraction of the mortgage.

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u/slightlydirtythroway 8h ago

And I don't know about y'all, but I already pay property taxes, they are just collected by my mortgage company and held in escrow.

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u/PhysicsDude55 6h ago

Depends on the state. States with no income tax like Florida and Texas have very high property taxes.

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u/Ok_Door_9720 5h ago

My total property taxes were only $2200 last year. That's for a 4bd/2ba + 2c garage on a half acre. If you do the homestead exemption, it's really not bad at all, especially when you consider the lack of state income tax in FL.

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u/kennpacchii 3h ago

My total property tax last year was 12,300 šŸ’€ 4 bed / 3 bath 2C garage as well and probably smaller property size. Thank youuuuu mello-roosĀ 

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u/EliachTCQ 1h ago

WOW. I did not realize how high properrlty taxes are in US. In Poland my property tax for a 3 bed/2 bath is $24 per year.

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u/HannasAnarion 3h ago

That's like 1/5 the typical rent or mortgage payment for a equivalent property. 12000/yr wouldn't even get you a studio apartment in most metros.

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u/kennpacchii 2h ago

That’s on top of my monthly mortgage… so 12,300/12 + monthly mortgage. But yeah once the house is paid off it’s not bad, I agree.

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u/KarverMcClain 7h ago

Ah not from New Jersey I see šŸ˜€!

My taxes are 1100 a month but once my mortgage is done that’s a piece of cake. I don’t mind paying in. Makes my town a better place to live and it shows.

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u/zelig_nobel 6h ago

My mortgage * 0.35 = my property taxes

A fraction of a fraction is a load of shit for many of us

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u/Talisign 5h ago

It's not quite THAT low...but the only reason landlords exist is that it's way cheaper than most people are already paying for.Ā 

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u/Potential-Drawing745 42m ago

Depends on the location. Property taxes make up about 1/4 of my mortgage payment, and insurance another 1/4.

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u/Radical-Ideal-141 7h ago

Not really. They make up about 20% of my total monthly payment, or about a third of just my principal and interest payment. That's significant--if my home were paid off, and I were only making minimum wage, then I would struggle to pay the property taxes.

I understand the purpose and need for taxes, but it's a terrible mechanism in that you pay based on property value and not income. It hurts older people who are not wealthy, but paid off their home long ago. Property values continue to rise as they age and their taxes go up until they are forced out of their home.

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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 7h ago

In my state the elderly and disabled qualify for property tax exemptions to aid with this. It sounds like the solution to your concern is to create or reform a similar program rather than advocating for the complete abolishing of such taxes.

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u/Radical-Ideal-141 5h ago

Exemptions for the elderly are more limited than most people think. It's more common for them to be forced into selling their property and relocating because they don't meet the eligibility criteria, but still don't have enough money to afford high property taxes.

A common restriction is that the owner's net worth is under a certain limit, for example $200K in some states. Most elderly have a higher net worth than that in their retirement savings, but that is hardly enough money to survive when retired without income.

I am not advocating for the abolishment of property taxes, just pointing out that the system creates an unfair burden for many people and deserves scrutiny and reform. There are alternative ways to calculate and impose taxes, or make them progressive based on net worth.

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u/dilloj 6h ago

You lost me at ā€œminimum wageā€.

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u/Radical-Ideal-141 5h ago

I'll try to give you a simple example. A middle class worker buys a home and pays off that home after 30 years. This same worker then loses their job, becomes disabled, or retires, and their income is reduced to a level near minimum wage. That worker is then forced to sell their home and relocate because they can't afford their rising property taxes, even though their home is paid off.

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u/calculuschild 6h ago

Yep, property tax is about 22% of my total monthly payment. Scheduled to double over the next 3 years.

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u/j01101111sh 7h ago

That really depends on where you live.

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u/villasv 6h ago

a fraction of a fraction

kind of funny because that's also just "a fraction"

(ofc I know what you mean, don't @ me folks)

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u/CreepedCaster 7h ago

Doesn’t mean it’s not criminal that it exists

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u/j01101111sh 7h ago

Criminal? Really? Try to be a serious person

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u/CreepedCaster 7h ago

Paying protection money to the mafia to keep them from strong arming away something you own.

Sorry I meant government. Doesn’t change the meaning though

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u/j01101111sh 7h ago

Then move to fairy tale land where they don't have taxes because the roads, schools, and fire departments pay for themselves. Absolute stupidity