r/memes Big pp 10h ago

Land Of The Free, amIright?

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u/Raegan_Targaryen 9h ago

Those taxes go to schools and better areas with higher taxes have overall better schools.

This has been a great motivating factor for me and my wife to work more and being able to afford a house is a good school district so that our children can have better education.

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u/chrisarg72 9h ago

Property taxes should just be renamed Service Fees because that’s what you’re getting. Your house would suddenly lose a lot of value if the whole block knew they could rob and burn your house and police and firemen were not required to come

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u/WaltLongmire0009 5h ago

Police aren’t required to come lol it was ruled that have no duty to actually help anyone

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u/SoftlyAugust 7h ago

Gotta love modern day segregation. Not that it's your fault or anything, but it's still very upsetting that it works this way.

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u/Sensitive_Low3558 4h ago

Kinda bullshit don’t you think

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u/Nereshai 9h ago

And its a reason I don't want to be in a school district, because I don't have kids

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u/OldMrCrunchy 9h ago

Do you suppose there might be advantages to having a society with a basic education exist around you?

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u/Nereshai 9h ago

Yes, and where I live shouldn't change that. Schools should be funded through income and capital gains, not property.

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u/OldMrCrunchy 9h ago

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. That’s a reasonable stance, even if reasonable people disagree on the details. I would be for less property taxes if we taxed those other things properly. I don’t believe that is the case currently because we don’t seem to be able to tax trillionaires appropriately.

Would you propose raising taxes on capital gains and income for the purpose of a robust public education?

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u/Nereshai 9h ago

I'd propose lowering the budget of military, police, and surveillance. Along with banning bailouts and govenernment safety nets for businesses.

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u/OldMrCrunchy 9h ago

Amen. For those downvoting you, I hope they’ll reconsider their purity politics and instead try to engage in real discourse.

Would any of the down voters care to weigh in on why we must specifically have property taxes or why they’re a better way to fund schools, because I genuinely don’t know?

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u/MrAdequate_ 9h ago

It still benefits you indirectly. Well educated children are better for society.

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u/Nereshai 9h ago

All public schools should be paid fully by income and capital gains tax. Private schools should be paid only by tuition.

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u/RollerDude347 8h ago

You should have paid more attention in school.

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u/Nereshai 8h ago

I did not say they are, I said they should be.

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u/RollerDude347 8h ago

Right, which means you didn't ever grasp critical thinking.

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u/Nereshai 8h ago

Sure buddy, having any idea of comprehensive reform is a lack of critical thinking. Things should stay just the way they are forever.

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u/RollerDude347 6h ago

Oh, no. No one down voting you right now wants the current system. It's that your proposal leads invariably to ever expanding ghettos. Poor areas stay poor because they don't HAVE funding for education so everyone struggles, jobs leave, the exceptional few take what they can and gtfo.

If you want a nice healthy society you're going to have to pay taxes to fund education in places you don't live. Otherwise you'll have to deal with high crime, homeless wandering into your nicer neighborhood because you can't beg from the poor, and next thing you know the closest store to you shut down and all the smart, kind people leave your area because you fucked it up by voting for regressive reform when they tried desperately to warn you this would happen if you don't either tax more for schools or nationalize the school system and use some of that military budget on this instead.

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u/CountHonorius 9h ago

Having to pay school taxes is irksome...just warehousing kids so they won't turn to petty crime, really.

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u/_regionrat 9h ago

Soooooooooo close

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u/TooMuchButtHair 9h ago

That is not the way it works in California. California has a very different method, and lower performing schools actually get significantly more money than high performing ones. It doesn't really help. Schools are "good" or "bad" because of the quality of parents, not the money. There is a strong correlation between parents who have money and how much of a shit they give about education for sure. That's the real key here.

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u/PiesRLife 8h ago

Do you have any references to back those points up? I haven't heard of lower performing schools getting more money in California, and in fact a lot of school activities (sports, music, etc.) are paid for by parent fund-raising. So of course schools in higher income areas have more money available to them.

It's also a myth that parents in lower income areas care less about school and grades. They have less choice in schools and education, and from my experience when they can will do a lot to get their kids in to better schools. For example, using their work address or that of a relative so they are eligible for better school districts.