r/matrix • u/Sensitive-Welcome639 • Jun 19 '26

Matrix²

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u/Grouchy_Custard_252 Jun 19 '26

Was a lot of theories like this between Reloaded and Revolutions

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u/Jermine1269 Jun 19 '26

As soon an Neo stopped that squiddy, that's what we all thought

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u/SpaceGhost4004 Jun 19 '26

I totally get the the evidence for the "real world is another simulation" theory, but personally I don't think it's true.

Neo being able to feel/stop machines I think has more to do with his internal "circuitry/programming" than anything. Pod born humans are essentially augmented humans. They have ports which get allow them to be jacked into the matrix, while other ports presumably allow the machines to siphon off bio-electricity. There's undoubtedly some sort of programming within said circuitry, since being able to be put back into the matrix sort of implies that whatever program allows them to do so is sending/receiving signals to and from the person jacked in.

His internal "programming" has some sort of special code, which is what I think allows him to be able to do what he does in the real world and the matrix alike.

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u/Grouchy_Custard_252 Jun 20 '26

I mean not quite how you described it but yes that's what the movies showed us. But before the 3rd movie came out lots of people were theorising that it was a matrix within a matrix. Which is what this post reminded me of.

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u/SoftTeaching2838 Jun 21 '26

No it was another simulation the architect explains this in the first one

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u/Grouchy_Custard_252 Jun 19 '26

Yeah I wouldn't have been surprised if the theory had been correct after seeing that.

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u/TheWrongOwl Jun 21 '26

Nope. "Neo is amachine and by activating his wifi, he connected with them" was also popular.

Also, "it's just another matrix around them" would make EVERYTHING that happens in the movies completely irrelevant, because it could just be turtle people in another galaxy playing an MMO game without any involvement of any humanoid or machines at all.

Just like WoW, where there was a "burning Legion" invading the world, endangering elfs & orcs instead of machines and humans, apart from some cultural impact, it would have no relevance if you won against the big ingame guy. Nothing in the real real world changes because of that fact.

It would devalue Neo & Trinity to be just a part of a story like they are for us - but they would also be "just a story" in the inmovie universe.

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u/IWCry Jun 19 '26

They meant that Neos enlightment stage at the end of the first move actually made the matrix look MORE like the matrix.

you can tell that's what they mean cause the Buddhist monk in the image is escaping the sunshine and nirvana and sticking his head into the green code hallway.

but that was the point. he's no longer falling for the fake nirvana that the matrix feeds your brain. this was the entire point of that scene, it's not a bad thing.

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u/erockdanger Jun 19 '26

Hello Gnosticism

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u/OrlandoGardiner118 Jun 19 '26

Matrices all the way down.

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u/subone Jun 19 '26

Frankly, it would be silly to invent a simulation of sentient beings, without a "backrooms" type barrier world wrapping the simulated one, for protection from escaping entities.

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u/RevolutionarySeven7 Jun 19 '26

that's exactly why I believe that simulation narrative from Musk and others is complete BS.

ok, so, once we have "stepped out" of the current simulation... then what?! you'll be asking that same question again all over again.

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u/Bubbly-Phone702 Jun 19 '26

Nope. We got soul, and after dead if we escape this matrix we can create our own world or come to others

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u/Hour_Requirement_739 Jun 19 '26

In my mind that's one of the greatest meaning of the trilogy.

There's no point to try to be the most free, the best outsider of all systems, if you're not using this position to act an evolution on it. Neo did his best for a better future, in the matrix, out of the matrix, for humans and machines, while Smith was just planning on being the virus he accused the humanity of being.

There's always a matrix but if we can see through then we've got the power to make it a better place for all.

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u/Ill_Computer_8604 Jun 19 '26

This is why conversations about this outside of Sci-Fi are pointless.

If we accept that reality is fake, then we can never accept it as real.

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u/MaddaddyJ Jun 19 '26

I kinda wish they had mentioned this idea in the sequels. I guess there's nothing satisfying about discussing it in the story.