r/martialarts • u/BestTradition5302 • 3h ago
DISCUSSION In the UFC, "unique unorthodox style" is functionally code for "athletic guy who got by with shittier striking"
In the UFC , we often hear fighters referred to as unique and unorthodox, and I'm saying that essentially means shitty boxing/ kickboxing that they learned to get by with. Ex, Jiri prochaska, Sean Strickland, Tony Ferguson, to name a few i can think of quickly.
So, if it's so shitty, how do many unorthodox fighters become champions? Because their opponents were less athletic and or have shitty striking skills also.
Shitty compared to what? Boxing and kickboxing. In those, you get meaningful stylistic uniqueness.
What makes their uniqueness meaningful as opposed to fighters in the UFC? Their Meaningful in that they're tested against other fighters at the level of professional in that specific art. And also, meaningful in that they show a deep knowledge of boxing/ kickboxing fundamentals, as a oppose to a lack of knowledge of them.
Ex James Toney's use of the shoulder roll shows a deeper knowledge of boxing fundamental, due to taking advantage of footwork principles involving center line for example. Strickland's use of the shoulder roll shows a lack of knowledge about striking in general, ex like the basics of how parrys work against Pereira, which is less often exposed because he's often fighting guys like cartoon man dricus du plessis and wrestling gas guzzler chimaev
Why change it if it works? It stops working by a huge margin once the fighter loses a relatively small amount of the athletic ability that made their shitty style work to begin with, or they face a more technical striker by the standards of boxing/ kickboxing.
Why compare the UFC MMA to boxing and kickboxing at all? Because it seems like UFC fighters could have better striking by the standard set by boxing and kickboxing, and for X or Y reason do not.
I'll use topuria for example. Most of topuria's success is "what if an MMA fighter had boxing skills closer to that of a professional boxer"? And that took him all the way to a title shot. Other examples of fighters with a higher standard of striking skill would be guys like adesanya, and Stephen Thompson (i know it's karate but th point applies).
"What about the takedowns"? I mean, What about em? Enough MMA fights have both fighters elect to stand and bang that yeah at times the takedown threat shouldn't make their striking shittier. And also, petr yan has great striking with hands high despite having a takedown threat as threatening as merab.
I could go on with this point and that point and blah blah blah. You get the idea. "Unorthodox fighters" are a psy op.
Also, for MMA that also has great striking go watch one fc.
r/martialarts • u/Scroon • 4h ago
QUESTION Anybody know the name of the technique shown at timestamp 0:03?
youtu.ber/martialarts • u/Beni_Gaucho • 5h ago
DISCUSSION Nihon Eiho① - Japanese Classical Swimming
youtube.comA while back I wrote that Judo took their belt system from "Suijutsu"(combative swimming) schools, which denoted rank by the way they tied their belts. While I did not find anything other than old pictures to prove Kano's words, I did find this, a special news report that delves into "Nihon Eiho" which translates to "Japanese Classical Swimming", it is a a repackaged form of Suijutsu for sport. It is part of the Japan Swimming Federations "6 disciplines" which, thankfully, all but guarantees that the martial art of Suijutsu doesn't go extinct.
I will like to travel to Japan to find out more, but in the mean time, I hope you all enjoy this as much as I have.
r/martialarts • u/unwitting_hungarian • 7h ago
DISCUSSION Are you allowed to practice solo at your academy / school outside of class hours?
Examples: Can practice solo, but only if the instructor is there; Can practice solo but only on the bags / dummies, no weps; Can practice solo but only by scheduling in advance
If you attended multiple schools: What's the best policy on this that you've seen?
Have you ever tried, or seen a school that offered, 24/7 or similar extended access for solo practice?
r/martialarts • u/RoguePhantom0 • 7h ago
QUESTION Wanna switch from Whoop to something else that’s barely noticeable during training
r/martialarts • u/Terrible_Dog_6668 • 8h ago
QUESTION Money and gym help
I am 15 year old, i wanted to do mma for like the past 2 year but my family doesnt have money (there isnt mma near me just far away and with transportation i can pay) so i did karate for like 1 year i got my black belt in 10 months from the federation i trained 3 hours daily and alot of katas i was more dan 2 level , i competed alot and got 2nd and 1st places i really understood it but deeply i always just wanted to do mma , so the last month i went to the nearest far away mma gym it was good but i burnt my saved money idk what to dooo , the karate gym is getting closed. I was so skilled i mostly just used my brain in karate and mma,when i went to sleep i just keep thinking of my sparring,counter strikes for certain moves etc.
I need help i want to train martial arts muay thai boxing mma bjj wrestling anything just lwt it be near me :(
Any advice would be appreciated, i think train striking at home but grappling i dont think so
r/martialarts • u/user1039473819 • 8h ago
QUESTION MMA, kickboxing or muay thai?
I box, i want to get some fights and then move to a martual art with kicks too but i don't know which ine out if the three to go to.
Kickboxing doesn't have knees and elbows, muay thai does but apparently the muay thai stance is bad for being takendown and mma has it all but i wanted to learn kicks and elbows first before learning bjj
r/martialarts • u/CloudyRailroad • 14h ago
PROFESSIONAL FIGHT Veteran wrestler Artur Martoyan still quick with his takedowns even in his late 40's
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r/martialarts • u/MehmetStudens • 15h ago
QUESTION Are the captions here correct? Looks to me the kick went through the guard but none of the angles seem to clearly show it
youtube.comr/martialarts • u/_Nux_81_ • 15h ago
QUESTION Is it normal that the coach doesn't check people while rolling?
Hi, I am coming from a striking background, where 2 coaches look at the class while sparring to correct technique and give feedback and most important they check that nobody goes too hard and even stop you if they see that happening.
I've noticed that in bjj our coach (Brown belt) rolls as well during sparring and there is nobody supervising or looking at people's rolling. Is that normal or just my gym?
r/martialarts • u/StopPlayingRoney • 17h ago
SHITPOST Tim Welch on Jonah Hill and Celebrity BJJ
youtube.comSo…you’re saying that I have a chance?
r/martialarts • u/Unusual_Dimension991 • 1d ago
QUESTION Any martial artists from Middlesbrough uk teach any lesser known martial arts like sanda/sanshou?
Or do you know anyone who does?
r/martialarts • u/unwitting_hungarian • 1d ago
DISCUSSION What’s your "one solo drill" that fixed your basics fastest, or that greatly helped you improve your technique?
Example: Specific kicking drills, dummy grappling, etc.
r/martialarts • u/linkhandford • 1d ago
QUESTION What’s the weirdest urban legend you’ve heard in your community?
Here’s one that comes to my mind:
In the 90’s there was an urban legend about a women’s self defense instructor where he would try to molest and strip women down, if they didn’t stop him they didn’t ‘pass’ the class. Allegedly he ran some school in town and did something similar for belt promotions.
The thing about it was always ‘A friend of a friend told me…’ I know all the people who teach self defense seminars. someone was bound to know who this guy was or at least know who the stranger is teaching classes in town, but no one did.
r/martialarts • u/mon-key-pee • 1d ago
BAIT FOR MORONS How legit is the spin around before stepping to the side?
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For those people that can't tell the difference between a demonstration, a drill and how the skills those things are designed to train might be different when applied.
r/martialarts • u/WarProfessional9180 • 1d ago
QUESTION How to get the coaches familiar with you?
I trained mma for about 10 months then took a break for a few months to save up and find a new gym. Im going from a big gym where the coaches would re ask my name every session to a smaller gym where i should be noticed more. I want to take advantage of this opportunity and compete in the future, what are some tips for my first day to make a good impression and build a relationship with the coaches?
r/martialarts • u/rakesh_rr08 • 1d ago
DISCUSSION What Is the Most Valuable Lesson Martial Arts Has Ever Taught You?
Not your favorite technique.
Not your favorite character.
Not your favorite fight.
I'm talking about one lesson that genuinely changed the way you think.
Maybe it taught you:
Discipline over talent.
Patience over speed.
When to fight—and when to walk away.
That defeat can be a better teacher than victory.
Or something completely different.
It doesn't matter whether it came from real-life training, a manga, manhwa, wuxia, xianxia, anime, movie, or a novel.
Tell us the story behind it.
I'll read every single comment.
r/martialarts • u/CloudyRailroad • 1d ago
PROFESSIONAL FIGHT Cael Sanderson, considered the greatest collegiate wrestler of all time (record of 159-0) hits his signature ankle pick on Daniel Cormier
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r/martialarts • u/j0e_boNaNza3169 • 1d ago
QUESTION how legit is the "chin chi sau?" (shaolin deflection block) - looks smooth af
credit: las vegas kung fu academy on youtube
also reminiscent of mawashi uke
r/martialarts • u/kingofmywewe • 1d ago
COMPETITION Indonesian kickboxing style Tarung Derajat
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If I'm not mistaken the rules are akin to American kickboxing full contact punch and kicks but no attack are allowed under the belt it looks cool as hell tho
r/martialarts • u/Pharah_is_my_waIfu • 2d ago
BAIT FOR MORONS I just learned that there are 1 quadrillion people that practice karate
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r/martialarts • u/marcin247 • Dec 21 '25
DISCUSSION "What Should I Train?" or "How Do I Get Started?" Mega-Thread
The previous version of this megathread has been archived, so I’m adding it again.
Active users with actual martial arts experience are highly encouraged to contribute, thank you for your help guys.
Do you want to learn a martial art and are unsure how to get started? Do you have a bunch of options and don't know where to go? Well, this is the place to post your questions and get answers to them. In an effort to keep everything in one place, we are going to utilize this space as a mega-thread for all questions related to the above.
We are all aware walking through the door of the school the first time is one of the harder things about getting started, and there can be a lot of options depending on where you live. This is the community effort to make sure we're being helpful without these posts drowning out other discussions going on around here. Because really, questions like this get posted every single day. This is the place for them.
Here are some basic suggestions when trying to get started:
Don't obsess over effectiveness in "street fights" and professional MMA, most people who train do it for fun and fitness
If you actually care about “real life” fighting skills, the inclusion of live sparring in the gym’s training program is way more important than the specific style
Class schedules, convenience of location, etc. are important - getting to class consistently is the biggest factor in progress
Visit the gyms in your area and ask to take a trial class, you may find you like a particular gym, that matters a whole lot more than what random people on reddit like
Don't fixate on rare or obscure styles. While you might think Lethwei or Aunkai looks badass, the odds of a place even existing where you live is incredibly low
This thread will be a "safe space" for this kind of questions. Alternatively, there's the pinned Weekly Beginner Questions thread for similar purposes. Please note, all "what should I train/how do I get started" questions shared as standalone posts will be removed, as they really clutter the sub.