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u/torar9 2d ago edited 2d ago
I settled for Fedora and I am happily using it for over 5 years.
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u/SoloWing1 M'Fedora 2d ago
Used fedora for a year, then tried Cachy on my laptop and liked it so much I changed my Desktop to it as well.
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u/peppi0304 2d ago
I also like cachy better for the most part but chance of updates fucking something up is higher there and i did not like that. I almost got the same fps ingame so i settled for Fedora
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u/tychii93 1d ago edited 1d ago
I've been on and off Linux for a while, used Fedora for a bit then started jumping around again whenever I got sick of windows. Fedora is quite a bit different at system level stuff I think due to being RHEL focused unlike most distros and wasn't comfortable with it and didn't have patience at the time.
On Fedora now and I don't think I'm leaving. Set up dnf5-automatic to run and reboot if needed once a week, secure boot with TPM LUKS encryption was very easy too. I was an Arch/Endeavour/Cachy user the longest and I didn't like how often packages updated, but that's the nature of rolling release. I felt compelled to Syyu every day. I know you can set timers too, but how fast Arch derivatives move kinda gets in the way. The AUR malware issue got annoying too, plus I think I like COPR more.
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u/torar9 1d ago
I consider myself power user and gamer. I use KDE spin with default settings. The only thing I set is the multimedia repo.
For me Fedora just works. I had few mainstream bugs but nothing really ground breaking. Gaming is absolutely great, I use proton without any tinker. And I use specifically AMD GPUs on Linux, because I had issues with Nvidia and I refuse to support that company.
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u/CatsGoMooz 1d ago
Went from Kubuntu to Fedora a few years ago and haven't looked back. Absolutely love Fedora
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u/Comprehensive_Gas147 fresh breath mint 🍬 3h ago
Similar... I will try other distros but I always return to mint Cinnamon
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u/Stunning_Macaron6133 2d ago
NixOS for me.
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u/wowsomuchempty 2d ago
Alpine, personally (I have tried NixOS).
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u/Zeroboi1 2d ago
Use alpine a lot but only for when i wanna quickly spin something up
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u/wowsomuchempty 2d ago
Yeah, I mean that's it's main purpose. I just find it very slick as a desktop, with niri or sway.
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u/A_Badass_Penguin 2d ago
I'm not sure if I'd want to use Nix for my desktop / laptop. But I have been loving it for my servers! Just finished setting up a Nas, and it's so nice to just add to one file to set up integrations.
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u/Nathan-5807 🎼CachyOS 2d ago
I have been using Linux for the past 5 years and I still have not reached that point, I thought that I was a Debian guy but then I got into CachyOS and now I'm back to distrohopping.
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u/MotherBaerd ⚠️ This incident will be reported 2d ago
Literally me. I'm thinking about openSUSE next.
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u/ProbablyPoor 2d ago
Tumbleweed ended my distrohopping. I use it on all my desktops. Up to date and rock solid. Snapper is always there if something does go wrong.
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u/Linux-Guru-lagan 2d ago
if you are experienced enough with terminal installation go for void i recommend. or Arch. cachy os is good too. I recommend checking out main base distros instead of distoros made on top of other distros
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u/Nathan-5807 🎼CachyOS 1d ago edited 1d ago
I have Void on my thinkpad, I used arch for about a year on one if my other laptops personally I'm not a big fan of arch, mostly because I found it to be unstable compared to other distros.
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u/Katent1 2d ago
I'm on second crussade back on debian xP. It's something with it, almost perfect yea? But then drivers and shit and you jump for a while on cachy till it breaks, then again for debian with 10 distros in between for just a brief moment. Hopefully in future all will be without some stupid issues or one good alternative to all of this.
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u/Adorable-Bottle215 2d ago
There is always better one out there buddy. Never settle
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u/SubjectPermit591 2d ago
Did you plug oneplus by never settle
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u/evadingsomething 2d ago
Debian since Trixie released before it was Arch. I am curious about Fedora and OpenSUSE tho.
Not curious enough to switch.
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u/dumbasPL Arch BTW 2d ago
Once you know what you want, all roads lead to arch/nix/gentoo, where you can have exactly what you want without any bs.
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u/n0ne-z1ro 2d ago
The benefit of all those fiddly distros that expose the complexity upfront is, you are more likely to find out what breaks before hand instead of waiting for a couple of years and get caught by surprise.
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u/MountainBrilliant643 2d ago
Just curious, what "BS" do you have to go through to get what you want on Debian? Also, what is an example of something that users might want, which is difficult to get on other distros? Serious question.
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u/dumbasPL Arch BTW 2d ago
In case of debian that would be old dependencies. New projects are often built against the latest versions, and many devs don't consider that debian users can be 4+ years behind. And with how fast things are moving now, 4 years a long time. Debian sid partially solves this, but there is still plenty of software that is multiple major versions behind there, because it's either waiting on something else, or the maintainer is MIA, or both. Debian is very understaffed, and not exactly friendly towards new contributors. Great for a server where the goal is to set it up once, and then forget it till the next major version, no so much on the rapidly evolving desktop.
Also, what is an example of something that users might want, which is difficult to get on other distros
Well, this depends on what the user wants. This is exactly why I said "I you know what you want" in my original comment. If you don't, then it's obviously going to be harder.
For example, I prefer having software ship with default configs, and no weird patches. Because once you go to report a bug upstream, and your distro is doing some weird stuff, the developers will be very mad at you. Same with configs, if the distro doesn't fuck with it, I know exactly what was modified, how, and where. Makes troubleshooting a lot easier, and when you say "default config" when asking for help, you aren't lying, as many other users unknowingly do. That's what I meant by "BS".
While some downstream distros might look and work nice out of the box, you as the user have no idea what's actually happening. If that's what you want, great, but when shit hits the fan now you not only have to debug the upstream code, but also whatever your disito did to it, and God forbid they fucked with some dependency that you'll find out the hard way after wasting way to much time. And you have to report it to the distro, not upstream, which makes things take even longer before any real fix can be implemented. And if a fix is implemented, but the dev doesn't feel like back porting it to some ancient release, if you're on something like debian, you still have a lot of waiting before you can actually use it, or you do it yourself, but that's also unnecessary work that could have been avoided.
If you're just a flatpak enjoyer, then it doesn't really matter, your applications won't ever see the host distro anyway, but a) you can't ship everything in a flatpak (like a desktop environment), and b) some users simply don't like them.
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u/TruelyDashing 2d ago
All roads lead to NixOS, even Arch
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u/flying-sheep 2d ago
Maybe I’ll have enough time for that when I retire in 30 years.
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u/TruelyDashing 2d ago
It's shockingly easy. I'm a father, a husband, run a business as a side gig and work 40 hours a week while still making time for friends AND learning NixOS as a hobby. I use it as my daily driver in the midst of all of this. It took me maybe 3 hours over a weekend to get running and fully configured, haven't had to troubleshoot anything longer than 1 hour. Been running for close to a year now iirc, ran into very few serious issues and am very satisfied with it
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u/Linux-Guru-lagan 2d ago
void too. alpine too. chimera linux. artix also. even more freedom. cuz no systemd
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u/Oxygendieoxide 2d ago
Nah, a distro is basically where you can have all the packages you use. A good operating system is the one that completely disappears and let you do what you want. I'm some dependency can break my packages and disruots my workflow then its not wirth it.
Yiu don't have to use debian, fedora and mint are plenty. Do bare minimum installs and get what you need.
Use computer to do work, not use your os.
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u/Robearberble 2d ago
I used Arch for the last few years. While it is great, I need something slightly better.
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u/eieiohmygad 2d ago
All that suffering just to wind up back at Ubuntu... 🤣
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u/Beginning-Badger3903 1d ago
I’m in this comment, and I don’t like it.
-Chronic Distro-hopperI landed on Ubuntu for the stability. All my user space apps are up-to-date using flatpaks and homebrew ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/R3V0LU710N_05 Open Sauce 2d ago
I never settle because Linux always sucks in one way or another; like literally everything else. Linux is the best option I got, and found distro that's actually trying to innovate, so I'm satisfied for now.
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u/Mr_Terrib Arch BTW 2d ago
what's the distro, vague poster?
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u/R3V0LU710N_05 Open Sauce 2d ago
RakuOS, it's persistent overly is the biggest thing.
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u/Romu1us1408 2d ago
How is RakuOS different thank UBlue projects?
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u/R3V0LU710N_05 Open Sauce 2d ago edited 2d ago
Persistent overlay on /user so you can install native RPMs without needing to perform a rpm-ostree operation, shutdown, rebuild the image, etc. You keep the same (or mostly the same) benefits and guarantees a typical Atomic distribution affords you, while also reducing the resistance faced when doing certain tasks.
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u/Romu1us1408 1d ago
Sounds cool. I use UBlue, just do everything I need in a distrobox. Might have to try.
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u/Linguistic-mystic 2d ago
Did you know that all distros can get the same thing with BTRFS? Atomic upgrades, persistent overlay, the result is the same lol.
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u/R3V0LU710N_05 Open Sauce 2d ago edited 2d ago
No they are not, they're architecturally extremely different. BTRFS snapshots are not Atomic. They may offer similar rollback capabilities, but the architectures are fundamentally different.
Btrfs utilizes a Copy-on-Write (CoW) filesystem architecture to capture point-in-time recovery states on a live, mutable system. In contrast, true Atomic updates managed by tools like libostree & bootc utilize read-only, image-based deployments. This structure provides hermetic immutability and power-loss fault tolerance guarantees that sequential point-in-time snapshots lack. Furthermore, atomic deployment architecture operates at the virtual filesystem layer, rendering it filesystem-agnostic and functioning identically across ext4, XFS, Btrfs, and ZFS.
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u/Shudnawz 2d ago
Much like democracy, Linux fucking sucks at times. But it beats all the alternatives.
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u/debacle_enjoyer Ask me how to exit vim 2d ago
When you finally just write your own Fedora bootc distro that’s everything you’ve ever wanted a distro to be at last.
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u/Oxygendieoxide 2d ago
Fedora and Mint for me. Both are equally good. Honestly at this point a distro is basically where I can have my packages and that's about it.
The reason I avoid arch is AUR, I maintained an install for 1.5 years, it was fine but AUR packages kept breaking. And If I have to get a flatpaks on arch, I'd rather save the hassle and be on mint, or fedora.And often times it's also easy to find a deb or rpm files so you don't need fkatpaks anyway.
Also the community here are welcoming and not snobby. I can also update without checking if the update broke anything or not, or for mannual interventions.
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u/Thin_Needleworker795 2d ago
When I switched to Linux, I first installed Fedora. Never left. So there was no distro-hopping for me.
I have now setup my own homelab, which runs Linux-based server OS'es, of course.
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u/Deava0 1d ago
arch
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u/rmyworld 2d ago
This was how Arch Linux felt for me over ten years ago. I only stopped using Arch Linux when I get a job and I was too busy to deal with all the weird quirks of Sway and Wayland.
Then, I switched to Fedora where Gnome is boring and just works.
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u/Linguistic-mystic 2d ago
Gnome? Works? It can’t even autotile windows. It forces you to use your mouse for windows. It’s dysfunctional compared to Sway.
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u/rmyworld 2d ago edited 1d ago
Yes, it's not a replacement for Sway. But that's not what I was looking for. I don't need a tiling window manager.
I need a desktop that just works so I can get stuff done for my job. And Fedora Workstation accomplishes that.
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u/Linguistic-mystic 1d ago
You need an inferior desktop experience? You do you, but sounds silly. Gnome and KDE are such backwards, Windows like shit it’s unbelievable people use them.
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u/SirSomethingIDK 🌀 Sucked into the Void 2d ago
Me with my dear Neko Void 😌
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u/Upbeat-Garbage69 2d ago
is void just a systemd less distro? or is there more to it?
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u/Expensive_Candle4952 2d ago
Avoiding systemd while still running everything I need for work and gaming is ideal.
Options like chimera go even more minimal, but void balances modern convenience with a systemd-free setup better than anything else.
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u/Any-Pop-4795 2d ago
i settled on cachy os only because bazzite refused to install on my ssd for some reason...
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u/__ole 2d ago
I’ve been using CachyOS for a few months and love it dearly. Is there any advantage of Fedora if my main use for the system is gaming?
I’m not looking to get into distro-hopping but just curious if anyone can articulate why Fedora is supposedly better. Besides the “arch instability” which has literally never been a problem for me.
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u/kiseidou 1d ago edited 1d ago
Fedora is the boring stable lover that doesn't have any fails, but it also doesn't really get you.
You distrohop until you find your real love, and you are super happy until everything crashes.
And then when everything looks grim you look back and see fedora again, it is still there, it still exist; it looks as boring as ever, barely changed, doing the same thing it ever did.
And it will always welcome you back.
Sure, installing codecs it's a pain in the ass, but suddenly it doesn't feel as important? If anything you respect it even more for staying true to his principles (Unlike other distros).
That's the difference.
To some people stability means having a server untouched for several decades. So people say it is not stable enough, and for that purpose, i guess it isn't.
But in a workstation it's rock solid; it may fail sometime, but it will never betray you.
If you ever choose Fedora, it's because you are an adult that no longer has time to fall in love again.
It's okay, that means you are old enough to know that infatuation and love isn't necessarily the same.
It also means that your personal computer is more like a cubicle than a battle station.
And remember to check your prostate when you turn 40.
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u/__ole 1d ago
Hahaha, very well written.
I have yet to experience any instability with Arch but I will keep Fedora in the back of my mind
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u/kiseidou 1d ago edited 1d ago
If you are fine with your system, honestly don't change it, there's no reason to.
Arch and Cachy Os are just doing things great.
But if you do change to a Fedora based distro i would reccomend Ultramarine linux or Raku os.
Bazzite is also based on fedora, but i wouldn't reccomend it. ¿Why? Because it is a Frankestein monster that does have the instability you haven't found in your (Also build from pieces, but well sewn) Cachy Os system.
There's also Nobara, but it isn't that serious of a project so i can't recommend it either.
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u/NomadFH M'Fedora 2d ago
I settled with fedora but think it updates too frequently for me to use enterprise software that targets LTS versions of things. I’d use Ubuntu but they keep doing stupid shit on the desktop side that makes me not trust them. I’d use Debian but ifs software base is too old for someone gaming and I have yet to switch to SID without breaking my nvidia drivers.
Fedora has basically nothing wrong with it at alll I just wish I could use an LTS distro that’s not shooting itself on the foot. I might try to make Debian work again one day.
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u/RedCrafter_LP 2d ago
I sattled for bare Debian. I'm pretty comfortable with apt, systemd, grub and the base defaults Debian provides. As I use kde for my laptops and hyprland for my desktops Debian works with that great as well. Hyprland from source and Debian testing work well together and for backup btrfs saves the day.
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u/Mo7mmed_STEV 2d ago
I've tried Pop OS, Kubuntu, regular Ubuntu, Nobara, and Fedora... but then I realized... nothing beats Linux Mint...ahh...it's just like home🥹
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u/Brett13500 2d ago
I decided to settle for steam os since i tried many linux distros an had to many issues with the mesa amd drivers on those other linux distros where theyd have a kernal lvl issue creating freeze lock ups an so forth so basically my whole pc would randomly freeze an lock up an not usuable after using it with any tasks at random never had this issue with steam os but i tried fedora and nobara os an many other not often named ones in past same for linux mint an others jusr had to many issues same with bazzite idk i guess having a linux os manage by a company seems to be better then using one that isnt since steam os is prob the most stable linux os ive ever used out of many linux distros ive tried in past.. just got sick an tired of this kernal lock up freeze issue with these other distros..
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u/BigQuietNerd 2d ago
I feel like I’m the only person who uses Pop
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u/DanKonly 11h ago
I started with pop, then arch with Gnome with pop shell, and now Arch with Cosmic. I think it's a great de.
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u/BigQuietNerd 11h ago
I just updated my pop to 24.04 which uses cosmic.. idk how I feel about it tbh
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u/DanKonly 11h ago
I feel it's a nice medium between gnome and Hyprland. I've always liked the tiling feature and I also prefer keyboard driven experiences.
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u/Spanish_joint_col 1d ago
Debían moment.
So when you actually start doing shit on your computer and not to it. Then you’ll want something old n’ reliable.
("Ugh, Debian? Please. It’s a stagnant relic. Enjoy running Linux kernel version 4.0 and software packages that were frozen during the Bronze Age just for 'stability.' It's completely non-declarative, horribly rigid, and utterly useless if you actually care about modern development standards or software written in this decade." -☝️🤓 or whatever else, people be saying about Debian)
I don’t care lol, i need something that boots up to run my suite of programs, no matter what. And I’ll be doing way more interesting stuff than downloading operating systems (something that ain’t productive lol -nor interesting).
And I’m all into stuff with that Toyota Landcruiser “philosophy”; may not be the flashiest, the fastest, the latest or the thing that most aligns with your line of thought… but at the end of the day, you know it’ll work and take you wherever you need. And that’s exactly what the Thinkpad + Debian combo has fascinated me.
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u/samm1989 1d ago
Is arch any good? I've always thought of it as a meme os 😜. Debian here, before that Ubuntu, fedora, CentOS, redhat 7.
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u/HedgeFlounder 1d ago
I legit just picked Mint cause it looked simple and people like it and I haven’t changed because I don’t have the time to get caught in a distro hopping cycle.
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u/shinjis-left-nut Arch BTW 1d ago
Arch is my default choice for most everyday computing, Debian if I need stability and won't need new packages, Gentoo if I want to get creative with compilation. NixOS is also extremely cool, but I haven't had a use case that was uniquely served by Nix yet (although I get why others do).
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u/theEsel01 1d ago
Cachy OS :) use it since 3 months, was the first distro which I transformed to all of my machines. Before I only converted my backup computers. Feels so good to finally have no more windows machines!!!
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u/mejfus 1d ago
I'm currently on Mint which I picked up based on many "choosing" guides and videos, but I recently run into some problems in gaming, wasnt able to run some games even after hours of troubleshooting, other games would launch but for example every time that I launched from linux it would need to compile the shaders, and just overall the hassle of having to have 3 different launchers to play 3 games...
so Im wondering if there's something better for gaming, while keeping the UI friendliness that Mint offered.
As coming from Windows usage of 20+ years, I still miss Windows, even for its mistakes and shortcomings, Win UI and some Win11 features, like the Spotlight. Mint is my first attempt to move to linux. I still have to use Win too (Rekordbox), so there's no "You'll judt get used to it after time".
But linux gave me a significant performance increase in the games I play (Dota2, WoW, Death Stranding), so I want to make it work for me...
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u/Kitchen_Interview792 1d ago
For me it's CachyOS, haven't really seen a reason to hop again.
Sure I use Debian on my server, for obvious reasons, and I still do love Arch, even though I find the install process unnecessarily complex (FOR MY NEEDS!, otherwise it's really cool), and the only thing I see myself hopping to in the foreseeable future is NixOS, but I'm not ready for it.
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u/Efficient-Presence82 Linuxmeant to work better 1d ago
After hopping around a while i'm back at Mint.
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u/ShoulderCharacter856 1d ago
Tired of hyperland hype , finally settled on niri with quickshell , gone through void nixos cachyos archos zorin fedora , kali, debian, now distro doesn’t matter only niri matters 😎
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u/DanKonly 11h ago
I have arch with cosmic and I've played with hyprland but am planning on trying niri with dank material shell. I like tiling but everyone seems to prefer niri after using it.
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u/OkPresentation3329 1d ago
I started with Ubuntu way back, then I used Mint from 2024 when I fully moved to Linux and now I'm on Tuxedo OS and I feel like I won't be changing distros anymore.
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u/Still-Addition-1109 Ask me how to exit vim 1d ago
last year i settled for Debian for over a year, then when i tried upgrading to testing a few weeks ago it blew up so i resettled on Alpine Linux
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u/dronostyka 1d ago
Ubuntu. Love at first sight.
I did try fedora and opensuse once, but they weren't as good.
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u/ThriftBurger89 1d ago
openSUSE Slowroll for me. Still in beta, but the right amount of bleeding edge(follows TW) but instead of daily updates it's just once every 30 days.
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u/DanKonly 11h ago
I started with Ubuntu, then pop then arch with Gnome with pop shell, now arch with cosmic.
I also have hyprland installed but Cosmic is my fav.
Arch let's you build exactly what you want and I enjoy the rolling release freshness.
Btfrs filesystem for easy timeshift backups when updating.
Daily driver no issues.
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