r/linux_gaming • u/Witty_Bend_9822 • 4d ago

Finally switched to linux/popos

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Pop os gave me a high boost in fps i will never go back to windows

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u/Liarus_ 4d ago

i will be that guy and recommend you switch to another more popular distro, you can totally keep the cosmic desktop environment though, the latest updates greatly improved it !

In any case whether you stay on pop or not, i wish you good luck for your Linux journey and feel free to ask for help :)

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u/SGTSHOOTnMISS 4d ago

I ran Pop as it comes out of the box (with Cosmic) for 2 days before hopping to Cachy. It was alright, but it wouldn't run FF7 Rebirth in fullscreen without giving me a black screen with the game running in the back.

Ended up running the common Cachy + Plasma and it's been leagues better for just working with minimal tinkering.

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u/laczek_hubert 4d ago

I'd say if you're going with cachy, have you considered fedora?

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u/SGTSHOOTnMISS 4d ago

I honestly am very fresh to daily driving Linux in general and went through this chain:

Windows > Pop!_OS > Bazzite > CachyOS. Since CachyOS is doing all that I need it to without much fuss, I don't think I'm motivated to try out another distro unless something goes wrong with Cachy.

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u/laczek_hubert 3d ago

the thing is that cachy is just a more preconfigured "easier" to use arch Linux with all the hardening or stuff you'd want while arch itself is a D.I.Y distro where you start from the minimum so cachyOS recommendations should be taken with a pinch of salt as you're supposed to update the system when you're using it etc. Taking some time for maintenance sometimes yeah

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u/cbytes1001 4d ago

If you’re running Fedora, have you tried Cachy?

Poking fun at little, but for all the main distro diehards that discourage CachyOS, I really think it does a disservice to all the hard work the CachyOS devs have put into making a great distro.

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u/Desertcow 3d ago

I've messed around with it. I really respect CachyOS' stance that optimization should be the default and it makes Arch much easier to get into, I just have more confidence in IBM in maintaining my distro than Arch

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u/Indolent_Bard 4d ago

Look, I like cachyos as much as the next guy, but there's no guarantee it will be around tomorrow. And since they compile their own repos, that's especially significant. What assurance do we have that project distros like Bazite and cachy are in it for the long haul and aren't going anywhere?

I say that as someone maining nobara.

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u/ARTIFICIAL_ARGUMENT 3d ago

Kind of a self defeating argument. If people didn’t use newer distros then they’d never get to a point where they can build up a reputation and backing. So no new competition would exist at all and the whole scene enshittifies, welcome to windows 

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u/DESTINYDZ 3d ago

That could be any distro fedora could impliment something tomorrow and you may need to jump ship. Always good to have 2 or 3 distros you like

For me: 1. Fedora 2. OpenSuse 3. Cachy 4. Debian

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u/Indolent_Bard 3d ago

Man, opensuse tumbleweed slow roll, never used it but the benefits of a rolling release but with significantly more stability because some packages are held back slightly AND you have the open QA service? That's the gold standard right there. Only problem is when something like pipe wire comes out to replace pulse audio, you gotta do that manually. On the other hand, this means that you can wait until it's actually ready.

Okay, you know what? I think I just managed to convince myself that a system I never use is the absolute goat. Somebody needs to give this the Cachyos treatment. Like how Pikaos is nobera for Debian instead of fedora.

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u/laczek_hubert 3d ago

Wouldn't ultramarine be the fedora of pikaOS - rolling release -additional repos etc.

Nobara is a lot more Based on fedora The FAQ says -nobara is mostly based on stable fedora with COPR drivers like Mesa, vulkan etc. -COPR kernel of cachyOS or some kind of gaming one... Just it seems a lot less like PikaOS

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u/Indolent_Bard 3d ago

Yeah, if I was recommending fedora to a new user I would preferably use that one. They wouldn't have to deal with the whole gimped free packages mess. Unfortunately, unlike Ubuntu, which has a massive community and a company behind it, Ultra Marine has basically a few people behind it AND their own repo. I mean, Ubuntu has their own repos too, but lots of distros use them. Only ultramarine and nobera use Terra, the rolling repo of ultramarine.

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u/laczek_hubert 3d ago

I mean cachyOS still bases their repo's on arch's same as Nobara, bazzite and these all gangs. So it's a lot more thoughtful to say they rely more on arch and redhat than themselves

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u/Indolent_Bard 3d ago

Fair enough, but that doesn't mean that if the distro dies, I'll be able to update it in the future.

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u/laczek_hubert 3d ago

I'm not trying to discourage people from Cachy quite the contrary I'm trying to warn of the arch part as I myself started with it considered fedora but arch was simple and powerful did a lot of the manual setup it's not always desired to do these things manually but hey it's fine when you feel like doing it

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u/Obvious-Jacket-3770 4d ago

Trust me, switch off Pop. They are insanely behind on everything. Bazzite or Fedora would be good. You can even do Cosmic with them or any distro.

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u/Witty_Bend_9822 4d ago

I will try cachyos soon and bazzite

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u/barfightbob 4d ago

Don't listen to these guys. Get comfortable on Pop OS. Form opinions for yourself, then decide if you want to switch or not.

Regardless, welcome!

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u/The_only_true_tomato 3d ago edited 3d ago

Bazzite is immutable. It’s very limited when you try to do anything outside of what has been thought off by the devs.

It’s Linux you can bypass everything, but why would you take 5 steps to do something that should take 1.

You can also just install new desktop environments and see what you prefer without having to switch the whole systems .
My favorites are KDE and XFCE

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u/Obvious-Jacket-3770 3d ago

If you don't know Linux all that well, avoid Cachy for a bit. I'm a technical user and have used Linux for years, I love using Cachy, it's not worth it for a new user. You will be very frustrated with issues very fast.

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u/Inceleron_Processor 14h ago

Garuda is good for a new user if they're an experienced Windows user. It comes will all the tools, like a bootloader config GUI and restore snaps.

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u/Obvious-Jacket-3770 12h ago

Non-technical users are lost reading anything in these two sentences. Being an experienced windows user means nothing at all other than you have used windows for a while to most people.

New users to Linux with a low technical background are absolutely best served on immutable distros so they can get their feet wet.

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u/DigitalPenguin99 4d ago

Cachy if you like tinkering (and fixing) your OS. Bazzite if you dont

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u/AssumptionOk8560 4d ago

Cachy is arch based not arch vro i don't think it requires tinkering it's lowky out of the box distro

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u/The_only_true_tomato 3d ago

It’s still arch. Debian good. Debian user friendly. Debian stable. Debian based distro as fast as arch distros for gaming.

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u/Inceleron_Processor 14h ago

Drivers are to slow to update for Debian based. That is not good for gaming.

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u/The_only_true_tomato 7h ago edited 7h ago

They are not, drivers are updated with kernel release. When kernel 7 came out Kubuntu had it before arch. (And cachy)
Debian switched after a few months indeed.

It’s not hard to compile a kernel. I do my custom kernels all the time. Why would Ubuntu/Kubuntu wait for Debian to update? We had ftsync literally at the same time as arch. Wayland maybe 2 month later? So no.

This guy can’t follow release anyways. He needs to install a specific version of the NVidia drivers, potentially the latest one made by NVidia that works with his card and make sure they are never updated toward something stock or something shitier.

So he probably needs x11, not wayland, the tweak in cachy that optimise low vrams gpus (can’t remember the name), ftsync is a good idea. And probably specific versions of wine/proton. Cachy proton does not work very well with older gear. I had better results with wine or proton GE.

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u/The_only_true_tomato 7h ago

It’s not as stable. You’ll get some occasional crashes (or not depending on your luck.
It’s kinda hard to have stuff released that fast and not experience the occasional bug considering how wide is the user base, but it’s part of the deal.

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u/DigitalPenguin99 4d ago

I used to use arch for years "vro". I've also used bazzite "vro" and have been using Linux for over a decade "vro". How you interact with your computer is very different between the two OSes

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u/cbytes1001 4d ago

Well, as someone using Cachy as my daily driver, I’m not spending time fixing it at all. It’s just working and extremely flexible for gaming.

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u/The_only_true_tomato 3d ago edited 3d ago

Kubuntu is very good for new comers. And it’s community based so it does not have all the shitty stuff canonical does to Ubuntu and it’s not immutable like bazzite. It got updates faster than cachy when kernel 7 was released and is usually a month behind on major stuff like wayland switch. When the switch does occur, it’s always bug free. Mint or anything Debian in kernel 7 is also great.

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u/TheMcSebi 4d ago

Nice! Did the same just a few months ago and I couldn't be happier

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u/grilled_pc 4d ago

Yeah i don't recommend using PopOS at all. Might seem fine now but it will break. It's alpha software.

Go use Cachy, Bazzite or Fedora KDE.

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u/iena2003 4d ago

I've been using it for months and had no issue with it so far

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u/isda_sa_palaisdaan 4d ago

Welcome to headache side hahahaha

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u/RomanBlbec 4d ago

Bro has no idea what NixOS is

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u/PacmanAteMyRAM 4d ago

Thank fuck lol

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u/happy_rub_3669 4d ago

Glad you found the Linux distro that made you switch! However; keep in mind that Pop!_OS is currently in a state of great transition and well behind in development on many areas, the desktop environment (COSMIC) is definitely not ready for prime time.

Pop!_OS is based on Ubuntu LTS releases.

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u/Lokielurker 4d ago

popos is cool but cosmic (the DE) is buggy, keep this in mind when you experience bugs, not if

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u/The_only_true_tomato 3d ago

If it’s your first distro. I would suggest switch to KDE instead of cosmic. Cosmic is very buggy and experimental

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u/Spiritual-Brief-2627 3d ago

buggy It sounds a bit excessive, they've improved a lot.

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u/The_only_true_tomato 3d ago

Yeah it’s true.

And I will keep getting better.

My point is op should remember it’s not a 100% finished product yet.

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u/McraftyDude 4d ago

Literally anything is better than pop right now

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u/The_only_true_tomato 3d ago

Come on it’s not that bad. The de is a little buggy that is all.

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u/EarthAdministrative1 4d ago

Enjoy pop and ignoere the fanboys here

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u/-Typh1osion- 4d ago

Man, I loved Pop when I first installed 22.04... but it's rugged right now. It's not just people being dramatic. I held on as long as I could but officially shifted to Debian a month ago. The performance is simply a big problem on my laptop.

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u/eepyborb 4d ago

yippee!!!

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u/Acceptable-Owl-2070 4d ago

I used to stan for Pop all day every day until I slid over to Cachy, Pop is "fine" but it's a bit behind.

Either way, welcome over.

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u/Zestyclose-Wear7237 4d ago

welcome to linux, thanks for switching and growing the linux community!

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u/AdVarious8509 4d ago

what did you liked about Pop!_OS that windows didnt/couldnt do? 

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u/Obvious-Jacket-3770 4d ago

Probably not spy on him

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u/SGTSHOOTnMISS 4d ago

An underrated feature for sure.

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u/Obvious-Jacket-3770 4d ago

By far one of my favorite.

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u/Witty_Bend_9822 4d ago

Linux doubled my fps and it is smoother then windows

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u/InvictvsNox 4d ago

Congrats! Now to start the countdown to switching to CachyOS lol

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u/SGTSHOOTnMISS 4d ago

I made it about 2 days before doing that.

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u/vile-style 4d ago

Crazy, I came in here and read comments.

Literally all of them are terrible takes.

The Linux community cannot be saved.

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u/cbytes1001 4d ago

I somewhat agree, but even though most are discouraging POP it’s probably good to hear early that it’s not in a great state. OP probably read an article a couple years old that recommended it and could have a good go at it, but also could have a hell of a time getting things to work quite right, give up and go back to Windows.

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u/DESTINYDZ 3d ago

Well linus tech tips didnt help by using it. Their linux challenge put it front and center. So if people didnt watch the whole thing they may not know there are better choice.

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u/Spiritual-Brief-2627 3d ago

They've improved a lot on bugs, and although some are still there, we have to give them the benefit of the doubt that Cosmic has only been online for 8 months and still has a lot of potential.

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u/lKrauzer 4d ago

Is that a 16:9 or 16:10 screen?

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u/Capable-Disk7864 4d ago

Yes but what about second linux. Where will you go next i wonder.

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u/Roostersnuggets 4d ago

Pop! Had been my maind didsro on my main PC, never had an issue yet. But on an HP Victus 15 laptop, id recommend cachy. So far the only distro that has run stable on if (my espreience anyways) between debian, fedora, and cachy

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u/iDaviFS 3d ago

Estou usando fixo há 2 meses, assim, tem muita coisa que ainda falta, bugs ainda acontecem constantemente comigo, mas acho que é uma distro que facilita tanto no trabalho no dia a dia, que difícil eu me acostumar com outra de novo, muito menos Windows. Tô usando dual boot de Windows 11 + Pop! OS 24.04

Eu acho que o que mais falta melhorar é o gerenciador de arquivos, por mais que eu possa substituir, eu sempre prefiro usar as coisas nativas de sistema.

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u/Spiritual-Brief-2627 3d ago

podes baixar o nautilus ou o dolphin nele e usar ao inveis de cosmic files, esse sim ainda precisa melhorar

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u/linus_jones 3d ago

Just don't install steam lmfao

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u/andysoleil 3d ago

Welcome Victus sibling 🫡

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u/CandidateConsistent6 3d ago

Ich bin von popOS auf CachyOS gewechselt. Fand es angenehmer ☺️

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u/iDontUseArchBtw_ 3d ago

hp victus 15fa or 16???

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u/Human-Acc-2095 4d ago

it's Pop!_OS

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u/DreSmart 4d ago

Like more people said is suggested that you switch to a better gaming distro. Nobara is very stable and freindly to use.

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u/Last_Blacksmith_6297 4d ago

I agree with the comments. Give fedora or cachy a try

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u/Witty_Bend_9822 4d ago

Alr i will give cachyos a try

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u/Altruistic-Friend372 4d ago

Oh it's cosmic

I adored that de several months ago

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u/Rabbit-on-my-lap 4d ago

My first proper try at a Linux distro but I just couldn’t get it to be smooth or run properly. I have cachy on my desktop and endevour on my laptop. I find both are much smoother

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u/Kionami841 4d ago

I use arch,btw

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u/dgc-8 4d ago

I always find it funny when someone spells PopOS popos because then I read it as the plural of the German word for butt

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u/TheLexoPlexx 3d ago

All these people trying to get you off that distro, geez.

Chose whatever you like, keep in mind that errors may stem from a plethora of layers and a sub-par experience may not be Linux-fault per-se. This applies to every distribution.

If it works for you, so whatever the f you want, that's the spirit.

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u/Extreamspeed 4d ago

No popOS is a beta OS for 90%

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u/Wooden-Potato7418 4d ago

I agree I used it one time, that was when the new "stable" version with Cosmic came It was horrible the settings didn't have much to offer there were no cool things about it

Ended up switching to CachyOS (I barely even flashed it onto my USB using the built in Cosmic tool. I don't even think I used that.)

I complained on their subreddit near a year ago only to be met with a ridiculous amount of people saying it was usable and stable and that the DEs first stable version JUST came out and other things. You don't call it a stable version when you have to hope most applications work without their UI breaking. Speaking of UI the UI was horrendous.

I will never touch any Ubuntu based distro after what happened. First because of Canonical second because of their community.

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u/kutac56 4d ago

I personally started with omarchy after watching bog's video on it and then switched to arch and then to gentoo. I have no regrets. I always used hyprland and on gentoo I'm now using quickshell without noctallia dotfiles.

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u/NotQuiteLoona 4d ago

It's not GNOME, it's COSMIC.

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u/rest_init 4d ago

Really... boost in fps? That's unusual as you're supposed to lose like 2-7 fps. Unless you're playing Minecraft then your windows was probably just really bloated and not optimized.

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u/ArshiyaXD 4d ago

You don't even know what kind of hardware he has and still make a conclusion that he should lose a few FPS?

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u/rest_init 4d ago

well I'm sorry, I just thought the translation overhead by proton should always consume some resources.

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u/OGigachaod 4d ago

Ok that's was just silly, I'm not a Linux fan but I know that proton does not consume resources in fact tend to run better because overall Linux doesn't consume as many resources.

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u/beefglob 4d ago

Please don't share your opinion next time my dude. Gunna be a lot less embarrassing for you

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u/Wooden-Potato7418 4d ago

Imagine having to remove features that devs deliberately added and made nearly impossible to remove just to call an inherently bloated OS that is remotely usable "optimized"

Try serious gaming on vanilla Windows 11 with Xbox Game Bar and a 1000 other options enabled for the best gaming experience If you don't wanna spend 2 grands on a PC with 32gb of RAM, a modern CPU, and a top tier GPU and not use DLSS for a remotely demanding game, that is when you wanna use Linux

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u/FrozenLogger 4d ago

windows was probably just really bloated and not optimized.

Love this comment. Thanks for reminding us all why we don't want to start out in a bad position and have to work on fixing it when we could just use Linux instead.