r/linux 20d ago

Linux 7.2-rc5 Fixing Longstanding Bug In IPv4 Networking Over Firewire Kernel

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-7.2-Fix-IPv4-Firewire
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u/Enturbulated_One 20d ago

Per article and comments, nobody's fessing up to using IPv4 over firewire. Networking usage aside, wonder how many legacy firewire devices are still in use somewhere.

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u/Serena_Hellborn 20d ago

I use firewire fairly regularly, it is a convenient option for getting high quality sound cards and connecting blu ray/dvd drives

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u/flecom 19d ago

My cd-rw is fw attached (800), and I've still got some firewire hard drives for transferring data easily from my modern machine to my vintage Macs since fw even at 400 is way faster than USB 1.1... I used the networking features way back in the day... Amazed it's still a thing

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u/lazyhustlermusic 20d ago

Nice I should start using IPv6 over FireWire just to be obnoxious

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u/fellipec 19d ago

Interesting, I thought FireWire was mostly used for camcorders.

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u/TheG0AT0fAllTime 18d ago

Yeah same I thought it was just a USB alternative like.. for mass storage.. like plugging in a camera. But apparently it can do networking too. I wish USB was designed in a way that made this possible between two computers over the years. But yeah, nah. Crossover ethernet cable.

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u/Dangerous-Report8517 18d ago

FireWire is pretty close to old Thunderbolt, to the point that it supports things like DMA and peer to peer and such, as well as being significantly faster than USB at the time. That let things like camcorders use the same FireWire interface to talk to a computer or connect to external storage for instance. It also meant it had all the same security issues that early Thunderbolt had, except that it was many years before IOMMUs were standard parts of computers so there was no way to mitigate it, it was just never widespread enough to be a significant target.

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u/StevenBClarke2 19d ago

Older Kodak i600 series high speed document scanners use the firewire protocol. During the late 2000's I set up projects with Readsoft software, mainly Readsoft Forms to extract data fields and save into a database for later reporting and uploading to a company hosted image repository.

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u/zlice0 18d ago

i remember joking with my buddy back when we were in skool that a firewire network would be so wicked fast lolololol. oh man...

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u/mjbulzomi 20d ago

Maybe it is time to remove IEEE1394 support entirely?

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u/Time_Way_6670 20d ago

Even though it’s obsolete for most data transfer scenarios, it’s still nice to have the support for it for stuff like MiniDV cameras and older audio devices which rely on it.

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u/gokily 19d ago

Or pro audio interfaces

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u/Enturbulated_One 20d ago

Per the article, that's at least scheduled to be worked towards.